This is where I am after 4 doses of ABX

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Just thought I would let all of you know exactly what is happening

to me as I go along with these micro doses. I am at approx. 8 mgs,

on MWF. I take it first thing in the morning on as empty a stomach

as possible and lately that means adding a couple spoons of

applesauce, lots of water.

First dose I just felt kind of achey, may have been nothing more

then my typical spring time crappies. Achier by late afternoon and

following day was worse then usual.

Second dose, ankles are becoming more sensitive, bone on bone

sensation. Achey, tired, lips feel feverish, don't know if I was

running a fever though. Have to go to bed very early.

Third dose, not to bad of a day, but by late afternoon, feel the

heat comig on. Joints are very sore, going from sitting to standing

is real hard on the knees. Ankles are getting more tender and toes

are now begining to get just ever so red. All the other fluish

symptoms are present. Bed very early again.

Took nothing over the weekend. Still don't feel to good. Saturday

not real bad, but I just take it easy. Manage no nap and have son

and family over for dinner. I BBQ and really don't get to sit to

much. I had 2 Lemon Drops, they are so good, but I know I shouldn't

have. I do typically not drink when on ABX. I'm not much of a

drinker anyways.

Sunday, I payed the price for something. Lemon Drops or being on my

feet. We have to go look at Real Estate and we are gone for about 7

hours. Tired when I get home and joints are very achey, ankles are

now swollen, and I have Cankles (not typical of me), toes are flame

red with some blanch white spots on a few knoted joints. Ankles feel

like someone hit them with a little hammer all the way around. Spot

where I got ganglion cyst on right wrist last time is starting to

get tender. Usual fluish achey. Gritty feeling in eyes. When I wake

in the morning, eyes are very weepy. Bowels are showing signs of

something going on. My temp is 98.2, and for me that could be a

fever.

This is what I call herxing.

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I would tend to see this as a sign of hip and knee replacements are

in your star signs.I think your extremely lucky if you have improved

but it's not what your claiming now that improved you- it was more

something you did earlier on rather than minscul current dosing

regime.I say this cause a year earlier you where fine according to

our interactions on this forum.Part of the picture of autoimmune

ilnesses is the ability to " fully repair an area of bother " .

Medicine uses and often succesfully steroid therapies which when

initiated succesfully see someone heal nicely and no future problems

are enncountered.

>

> Just thought I would let all of you know exactly what is happening

> to me as I go along with these micro doses. I am at approx. 8 mgs,

> on MWF. I take it first thing in the morning on as empty a stomach

> as possible and lately that means adding a couple spoons of

> applesauce, lots of water.

>

> First dose I just felt kind of achey, may have been nothing more

> then my typical spring time crappies. Achier by late afternoon and

> following day was worse then usual.

>

> Second dose, ankles are becoming more sensitive, bone on bone

> sensation. Achey, tired, lips feel feverish, don't know if I was

> running a fever though. Have to go to bed very early.

>

> Third dose, not to bad of a day, but by late afternoon, feel the

> heat comig on. Joints are very sore, going from sitting to

standing

> is real hard on the knees. Ankles are getting more tender and toes

> are now begining to get just ever so red. All the other fluish

> symptoms are present. Bed very early again.

>

> Took nothing over the weekend. Still don't feel to good. Saturday

> not real bad, but I just take it easy. Manage no nap and have son

> and family over for dinner. I BBQ and really don't get to sit to

> much. I had 2 Lemon Drops, they are so good, but I know I

shouldn't

> have. I do typically not drink when on ABX. I'm not much of a

> drinker anyways.

>

> Sunday, I payed the price for something. Lemon Drops or being on

my

> feet. We have to go look at Real Estate and we are gone for about

7

> hours. Tired when I get home and joints are very achey, ankles are

> now swollen, and I have Cankles (not typical of me), toes are

flame

> red with some blanch white spots on a few knoted joints. Ankles

feel

> like someone hit them with a little hammer all the way around.

Spot

> where I got ganglion cyst on right wrist last time is starting to

> get tender. Usual fluish achey. Gritty feeling in eyes. When I

wake

> in the morning, eyes are very weepy. Bowels are showing signs of

> something going on. My temp is 98.2, and for me that could be a

> fever.

>

> This is what I call herxing.

>

[Guest guest]

Oh please no joint repalcement. You have to realize that I have done

this ABX thing about 10-15 times. On and off, same thing every time.

It isn't coincedence and it isn't a relapse or joints needing

replasement. You can't turn a relapse on and off at will. For years

now allergy season is always rougher for me, like clock work, but

the other 9 months or so of the year I am in great shape. LLMD says

many of his patients are worse during allergy season. No knee pain,

no swelling in the joints, no achey, no naps, etc when not on ABX. I

have done this to many times to not know whether or not this tiny

bit of ABX is doing this, trust me, the ABX is causing this. 10

times and you get the exact same reaction nearly to the minute every

time.....it's the ABX. What they are doing, remains to be the

question. Killing organisms directly or indirectly , or something

all together diferent, I don't know. That is what I am trying to

understand.

I'll take a mere 9 months of the year feeling awesome, how about

you? In the last 2 1/2 years I have married off a son, fun but busy,

while having a daughter on full bed rest and then in the hospital

who gave birth to a 1lb, 15oz preemie who was in intensive care for

3 months, with me by her side night and day in a hotel for 2 1/2

months. Had my dad die on me, where I couldn't be with him while she

was in the hospital. I have moved across country 2 times and then

moved my whole house again after just 2 months to where I am now.

How many of us can do that? I have been to school, studying interior

design, sub dividided land, which was a learning experience. Lot's

of life's stressful annoyances. I chase a 2 and 4 year old around

often. Take long walks, etc, and I am approaching 50. Not bad for

someone who was infected with Lyme 38 years ago. I am thrilled to be

able to feel this good after where I have been. With Lyme, I can

always expect there to be bumps in the road, doesn't mean that I am

not still in a high state of remission and it doesn't mean that ABX

won't still take a toll on me when I am on them.

What I do know for sure is that the symtoms I am experiencing right

now while on low dose ABX fit right there with the definition of the

Herxheimer reaction.

> >

> > Just thought I would let all of you know exactly what is

happening

> > to me as I go along with these micro doses. I am at approx. 8

mgs,

> > on MWF. I take it first thing in the morning on as empty a

stomach

> > as possible and lately that means adding a couple spoons of

> > applesauce, lots of water.

> >

> > First dose I just felt kind of achey, may have been nothing more

> > then my typical spring time crappies. Achier by late afternoon

and

> > following day was worse then usual.

> >

> > Second dose, ankles are becoming more sensitive, bone on bone

> > sensation. Achey, tired, lips feel feverish, don't know if I was

> > running a fever though. Have to go to bed very early.

> >

> > Third dose, not to bad of a day, but by late afternoon, feel the

> > heat comig on. Joints are very sore, going from sitting to

> standing

> > is real hard on the knees. Ankles are getting more tender and

toes

> > are now begining to get just ever so red. All the other fluish

> > symptoms are present. Bed very early again.

> >

> > Took nothing over the weekend. Still don't feel to good.

Saturday

> > not real bad, but I just take it easy. Manage no nap and have

son

> > and family over for dinner. I BBQ and really don't get to sit to

> > much. I had 2 Lemon Drops, they are so good, but I know I

> shouldn't

> > have. I do typically not drink when on ABX. I'm not much of a

> > drinker anyways.

> >

> > Sunday, I payed the price for something. Lemon Drops or being on

> my

> > feet. We have to go look at Real Estate and we are gone for

about

> 7

> > hours. Tired when I get home and joints are very achey, ankles

are

> > now swollen, and I have Cankles (not typical of me), toes are

> flame

> > red with some blanch white spots on a few knoted joints. Ankles

> feel

> > like someone hit them with a little hammer all the way around.

> Spot

> > where I got ganglion cyst on right wrist last time is starting

to

> > get tender. Usual fluish achey. Gritty feeling in eyes. When I

> wake

> > in the morning, eyes are very weepy. Bowels are showing signs of

> > something going on. My temp is 98.2, and for me that could be a

> > fever.

> >

> > This is what I call herxing.

> >

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