Re: Tony - Cipro - right again. (now Tagamet)

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Penny:

Refresh my memory- did you try Tagamet (since we now know it's a

tcell enhancer).

And can antibodies get to your (bone) infection?

Barb

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> Saw my labs today for the pseudomonas. You were right again Tony.

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> Even though it's not sensitive to anything, the only thing the

results showed that could possibly help was Cipro. Cipro didn't get

an S or an R, it got an " I " (intermediate) meaning it might inhibit

the pseudomonas at the maximum possible dosage.

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> I imagine that's why Cipro made me feel so good back in the old

days when I first took it.

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> Anyway, she's doing more cultures, but thought my sinuses looked

much improved. I'm quite certain though that she's still going to

find an active bug in my sinuses, but I'm glad things are looking

better in there.

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> I saw my gp yesterday as well, and he said that the reason I'm

having so much right side discomfort (including right breast) is that

the infected mucous travels through the lymph system. So that makes

sense. Just hope it dosen't stay in my lymph system. :-(

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> If I can just keep my sinuses relatively clear, then clear my jaw

of the focal infections, maybe my immune system will be able to

handle the rest? I sure hope so.

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> penny

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I've done Tagament on an intermittent basis to fight viruses, but haven't taken it for any lengthy periods of time. I keep thinking (then forgetting) that it might be a good idea to give it a shot. I'm also thinking about trying the plaquenil and/or flagyl again to see if they boost my bug fighting abilities. I've still got to get to the drug store to pick up the lamisil. Maybe if I hit it with everything I've got, I'll have a chance. The IS just can't kill bone infections. The very best it can do is wall them off. Create a barrier around the infection, which doesn't kill it but keeps it somewhat contained. The trouble is, the barrier's not impervious and the infection still finds a way to slowly infiltrate the rest of the body. This may be why our infections and the symptoms develop so slowly. Even dental surgeons acknowledge the body's ability to wall off infection. I've been advised by at least 3 to leave my

infected teeth alone as the safest course of action. The problem is, they don't acknowledge the fact that the infection is still impacting the rest of the body. That's why debridement is almost always performed with bone infections. The bone and tissue surrounding it become necrotic, which prevents blood flow. This is why they have to debride the dead material which allows blood (the IS) and medication back into the area. But it's tricky business. If not debrided and treated properly, surgery can just cause the infection to spread. This is why dental surgery, implants, etc. are so nasty. The docs spread more infection than they stop, and they almost never treat correctly with antibiotics, so the odds are stacked against you. That's why a knowledgeable surgeon and an infectious disease specialist are your best bets with focal infections like these. Unfortunately, dental surgeons aren't nearly as informed as orthopedic surgeons, and

orthopedic surgeons won't touch the neck or up with a ten foot pole. TOO complicated. The vast majority of ENTs and ORAL surgeons take the easy way out. I was talking to my ENT's staff this morning saying, "does Dr _____ realize she's the only ENT in San Diego who will routinely culture a sinus infection?" and they responded with amazement at how many patients come to them with year old sinus infections who've never once been cultured, have never even had a CT scan done! and have been treated with the completely wrong antibiotics. This is the COMMUNITY STANDARD of care everybody talks about, including insurance companies. It's just WRONG! penny Barb Peck <egroups1bp@...> wrote: Penny: Refresh my memory- did you try Tagamet (since we now know it's a tcell enhancer). And can antibodies get to your (bone) infection?Barb