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In a message dated 12/10/1999 9:34:23 AM Eastern Standard Time,

mattndew@... writes:

<< Husband's BDay is tomorrow-cake-

and he really wants to go to a doughnut shop and get his favorite

do-nut. Yikes! >>

MEN!!!!!!!!

Barb

who has really been good about limiting ruggula and chocolates given to me by

dh

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> Hey , How is the 21DC going? No junky foods for me in 4

days!!! I am so excited that I can do this (really, I know I can. I

don't NEED junk, I just like it). Good Luck to everyone else ! I need

luck and willpower starting today... Husband's BDay is tomorrow-cake-

and he really wants to go to a doughnut shop and get his favorite

do-nut. Yikes!

~Laurie

> You see my crawling ever closer to you for that chocolate!!! I'm

approaching

> the MIDDLE of the month..youknow the great hormone DIVIDE..the SHIFT,

the

> hmmm, what else can we call it...the BITCH CYCLE!!!

>

> KRisten

> >

>

> >In a message dated 12/9/99 10:46:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> >Squashblosm@... writes:

> >

> ><< >>

> > That's alright! They'll start crawling out of the woodwork now

that they

> > have heard me mention chocolate. The word is like a honing device

when

> > estrogen runs through your bloodstream. The others are just afraid

of us

> >now

> > that we have been proven to be insane. But we still have each

other! ;o)

> > Sharon

> > >>

> >See, what did I tell ya, . All it took was the mention of

chocolate,

> >and suddenly Barb and show up out of nowhere. ;o) Sharon

> >

> >--------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >

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" have a nice day!! " wrote:

original article:/group/tae-bo_on/?start=3281

> Well, I'm doing pretty well, but must confess I did have one small

piece of

> chocolate yesterday...boo hoo. But, I did not go back for more! And

its

> almost my hungry time of the month (ovulation). So, I figure all

things

> considered, it still counts!

,

Sounds like you made a wise decision. Sometimes it's better to allow

ourselves the things we want...otherwise it could lead to a binge.

Great job on just eating that one piece. That may have been just what

you needed, and the important thing is that it didn't get you off

track. I mean it's only one little piece, right? You are doing a

great job...keep up the great work.

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Well, I'm doing pretty well, but must confess I did have one small piece of

chocolate yesterday...boo hoo. But, I did not go back for more! And its

almost my hungry time of the month (ovulation). So, I figure all things

considered, it still counts!

, who is still trying very hard to stay away from sweets!!

Re: Chocolate and one R-rated word

>> Hey , How is the 21DC going? No junky foods for me in 4

>days!!! I am so excited that I can do this (really, I know I can. I

>don't NEED junk, I just like it). Good Luck to everyone else ! I need

>luck and willpower starting today... Husband's BDay is tomorrow-cake-

>and he really wants to go to a doughnut shop and get his favorite

>do-nut. Yikes!

>~Laurie

>> You see my crawling ever closer to you for that chocolate!!! I'm

>approaching

>> the MIDDLE of the month..youknow the great hormone DIVIDE..the SHIFT,

>the

>> hmmm, what else can we call it...the BITCH CYCLE!!!

>>

>> KRisten

>> >

>>

>> >In a message dated 12/9/99 10:46:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>> >Squashblosm@... writes:

>> >

>> ><< >>

>> > That's alright! They'll start crawling out of the woodwork now

>that they

>> > have heard me mention chocolate. The word is like a honing device

>when

>> > estrogen runs through your bloodstream. The others are just afraid

>of us

>> >now

>> > that we have been proven to be insane. But we still have each

>other! ;o)

>> > Sharon

>> > >>

>> >See, what did I tell ya, . All it took was the mention of

>chocolate,

>> >and suddenly Barb and show up out of nowhere. ;o) Sharon

>> >

>> >--------------------------------------------------------------------

>----

>> >

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LOLOL...well the CURSE is in another two weeks. For some dumb reason I am

plagued with PMS twice a month instead of just once!

Grin,

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>In a message dated 12/9/99 11:10:13 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>litlrooh@... writes:

>

><<

> LOLOLOLOL!!!

>

> You see my crawling ever closer to you for that chocolate!!! I'm

approaching

> the MIDDLE of the month..youknow the great hormone DIVIDE..the SHIFT, the

> hmmm, what else can we call it...the BITCH CYCLE!!!

>

> KRisten >>

>

>The CURSE!! And I knew it was just a matter of time before your radar

picked

>up on the word chocolate, . ;o)) Sharon

>

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In a message dated 12/10/99 11:15:40 AM Central Standard Time,

Horsemom2@... writes:

<<

Barb

who never saw such a professional and scientifically correct response here

>>

Ha! Here's scientific: amongst the poorer African-American women in New

Orleans, it's not uncommon to hear, " My period came down " ...but, wait...when

it's over, they say, " My period went back up. " I love that. :-)

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In a message dated 12/10/99 7:44:09 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SRFerron@... writes:

<<

Barb

who never saw such a professional and scientifically correct response here

>>

Ha! Here's scientific: amongst the poorer African-American women in New

Orleans, it's not uncommon to hear, " My period came down " ...but, wait...when

it's over, they say, " My period went back up. " I love that. :-)

>>

You know, , I have heard that in some African tribes, the women were

made to go into a specail hut deep in the jungle during that time of the

month because they were said to be cursed. In our family, it was always

referred to as the curse. That could either be taken from the story of Adam

and Eve, or the African tribal ritual. ;o) Squash

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In a message dated 12/10/1999 9:32:22 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< You know, , I have heard that in some African tribes, the women were

made to go into a specail hut deep in the jungle during that time of the

month because they were said to be cursed. In our family, it was always

referred to as the curse. That could either be taken from the story of Adam

and Eve, or the African tribal ritual. ;o) Squash >>

It was a Native American custom too. I forget which NJ tribe (Hopi?) but they

had a special compound for menustrating women to keep them separate from the

rest of the tribe BUT they were served during this time by other women and

were supposed to just rest.

Barb

who has often wondered about how women handled hygiene prior to tampons and

sanitary napkins and how history just ignores this very human condition

(ignore it and it'll go away??)

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In a message dated 12/10/99 9:51:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Horsemom2@... writes:

<<

It was a Native American custom too. I forget which NJ tribe (Hopi?) but

they

had a special compound for menustrating women to keep them separate from the

rest of the tribe BUT they were served during this time by other women and

were supposed to just rest.

Barb

who has often wondered about how women handled hygiene prior to tampons and

sanitary napkins and how history just ignores this very human condition

(ignore it and it'll go away??)

>>

I thought the Hopi Indians were from Utah and Colorado. Could it be they're

from New Jersey too? I could live with that custom where I am supposed to

put my feet up and rest. They probably used corncobs before Tampons were

invented BOB. ;o) Sharon

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In a message dated 12/10/1999 9:58:44 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< They probably used corncobs before Tampons were

invented BOB >>

ewwwwwwwww

wonder if the fancy new museum by the Foxwoods Casino in CT mentions this

topic

Barb

who thinks maybe Lanape (sp?) tribe?

whichever tribe was near Waterloo Village where the Indian exhibit was

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In a message dated 12/10/99 8:32:22 PM Central Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< >>

You know, , I have heard that in some African tribes, the women were

made to go into a specail hut deep in the jungle during that time of the

month because they were said to be cursed. In our family, it was always

referred to as the curse. That could either be taken from the story of Adam

and Eve, or the African tribal ritual. ;o) Squash >>

Native American women also went to the Moon Lodge when they

menstruated...meditated, had visions, took it easy. My understanding was

that it was a special time when the women gathered together (cause in tribes,

their cycles tended to be in synch), and had spiritual bonding. Far from a

curse.

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In a message dated 12/10/99 10:06:30 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Horsemom2@... writes:

<< ewwwwwwwww >>

Barb--I know this is a weird question, but are you a fan of Ernest Movies?

;o) Sharon

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In a message dated 12/10/99 8:58:39 PM Central Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< hey probably used corncobs before Tampons were

invented BOB. ;o) Sharon >>

I heard that in the moon lodges, they sat on moss, and offered their menses

to the earth. --susan::front kick, side kick, front kick, side kick::

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In a message dated 12/10/99 10:08:15 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SRFerron@... writes:

<<

Native American women also went to the Moon Lodge when they

menstruated...meditated, had visions, took it easy. My understanding was

that it was a special time when the women gathered together (cause in

tribes,

their cycles tended to be in synch), and had spiritual bonding. Far from a

curse.

>>

I'll bet it depended on the tribe. I have firsthand experience with being in

sync with cycles, so I know there is definitely something to that. And I

wonder if it is a situation created by the mind or could it be physical? For

instance, I know that my sisters and I had our time all at once.....But do

you think as a group, if we talk to one another daily, we will be in sync? I

know that is an odd that, but stranger things have happened. Just food for

thought. ;o) Sharon

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In a message dated 12/10/99 10:14:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SRFerron@... writes:

<<

<< hey probably used corncobs before Tampons were

invented BOB. ;o) Sharon >>

I heard that in the moon lodges, they sat on moss, and offered their menses

to the earth. --susan::front kick, side kick, front kick, side kick::

-- >>

Hey, I loved the little front kick, side kick thing you've got going on

there. That's cute . :o)

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In a message dated 12/10/1999 10:12:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< Barb--I know this is a weird question, but are you a fan of Ernest Movies?

;o) Sharon >>

nope

I think maybe I caught part of one

Barb

who has been asked weirder things :)

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In a message dated 12/10/1999 10:16:32 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< >>

I'll bet it depended on the tribe. I have firsthand experience with being

in

sync with cycles, so I know there is definitely something to that. And I

wonder if it is a situation created by the mind or could it be physical?

For

instance, I know that my sisters and I had our time all at once.....But do

you think as a group, if we talk to one another daily, we will be in sync?

I

know that is an odd that, but stranger things have happened. Just food for

thought. ;o) Sharon

>>

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

forget it!!!!!

will not do this new 21dc of getting my period again

nope

no way

count me out

I'll even give up my scale first

....... or my firstborn?

(but nobody would take him)

Barb

who is almost finished with menopause and isn't starting all over again

AKA:POMBarb, Mad-Dame Yenta, Tae-Bo Barb

" Cats and Teens will do what they want and

Dogs and Parents just better get used to it "

<A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/horsemom2/myhomepage/index.html " >Barb's

Places on the web</A>

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In a message dated 12/10/99 9:16:31 PM Central Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<<..But do you think as a group, if we talk to one another daily, we will be

in sync? >>

Shoot! I'm not even in sync with myself!!! LOL (the perils of

perimenopause).

susan

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In a message dated 12/10/99 9:17:20 PM Central Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<< - >>

Hey, I loved the little front kick, side kick thing you've got going on

there. That's cute . :o)

>>

Just thought that the focus should be tae bo...if just for a moment...LOL

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Yes you are right...and I als measured myself today.. and since yesterday, I

have gained 1-2 inches around my waist/hips...and the other inch on my bust.

Yup, the same three inches I thought I had lost. Looks like I'm not getting

anywhere even with diet and exercise. I'm just gaining and losing the same

damn three inches.

(Yesterday I put my jeans on freshly washed, and they were loose. Today

after one day's wear they are tight. Thats when I measured myself.)

The only saving grace is my abs are actually stronger. I can do much better

crunches now.

Re: Chocolate and one R-rated word

>>Hey, , don't feel bad...Since going on the pill 3 1/2 months

>ago " to get regular, " I have my period 3 weeks out of every 4! It is

>nuts! No wonder I'm such a chocolate-hound!!

>~Laurie

>who, while just baking husband's bday cake, tried so hard not to lick

>the mixing bowl(and get every last morsel into the pan), got cake

>batter all over her new sexy shirt bought just for hubby's birthday!

>> <<

>> LOLOL...well the CURSE is in another two weeks. For some dumb

>reason I am

>> plagued with PMS twice a month instead of just once!

>>

>> Grin,

>> >>

>>

>> This is because of your cycle. You ovulate, and then later, you have

>menses.

>> ;o) Sharon

>

>

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Thanks but tonight I had a piece of chocolate cake and a small a mount of

ice cream, so it looks like I've blown the 21 dc.

The thing is, those four days that I was off the sweets, I was eating twice

as many calories because I was eating other stuff to stay away from sweets.

so its probably just as well. guess I 'll just have to try using

substitutions instead of abstaining.

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> " have a nice day!! " wrote:

>original article:/group/tae-bo_on/?start=3281

>> Well, I'm doing pretty well, but must confess I did have one small

>piece of

>> chocolate yesterday...boo hoo. But, I did not go back for more! And

>its

>> almost my hungry time of the month (ovulation). So, I figure all

>things

>> considered, it still counts!

>

>

>,

>

>Sounds like you made a wise decision. Sometimes it's better to allow

>ourselves the things we want...otherwise it could lead to a binge.

>Great job on just eating that one piece. That may have been just what

>you needed, and the important thing is that it didn't get you off

>track. I mean it's only one little piece, right? You are doing a

>great job...keep up the great work.

>

>

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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In a message dated 12/11/1999 12:49:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

SRFerron@... writes:

<< Portion control is important for some of us. I can totally relate (but

then

I'm 49.0909% insane). I can't have a large bag of chips in the house. I

have to buy small ones. I couldn't even do what you do. I have to buy one

candy bar at a time. We each know our strengths and weaknesses, and some of

us learn how to work around our weaknesses. I say, " Whatever it takes! " >>

weirder for me, (afterall, I'm 66.6666666666666% insane),

if I have an ample amount of a trigger food in the home,

I do not crave it!!!!

Barb

who only wants stuff when I feel I can't have them

AKA:POMBarb, Mad-Dame Yenta, Tae-Bo Barb

" Cats and Teens will do what they want and

Dogs and Parents just better get used to it "

<A HREF= " http://hometown.aol.com/horsemom2/myhomepage/index.html " >Barb's

Places on the web</A>

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In a message dated 12/11/1999 1:36:55 PM Eastern Standard Time,

litlrooh@... writes:

<< I think it is water weight. The problem is, when am I going to lose

something more than water??? >>

hmmm

when you least expect it?

Barb

who decided a set point isn't so bad if it stops me from gaining besides

inhibiting my losing

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In a message dated 12/10/99 9:58:46 PM Eastern Standard Time,

Squashblosm@... writes:

<<

Barb

who has often wondered about how women handled hygiene prior to tampons and

sanitary napkins and how history just ignores this very human condition

(ignore it and it'll go away??)

>>

I thought the Hopi Indians were from Utah and Colorado. Could it be they're

from New Jersey too? I could live with that custom where I am supposed to

put my feet up and rest. They probably used corncobs before Tampons were

invented BOB. ;o) Sharon

>>

Actually many used suede and bits of leather straps. Corncobs were used as

toilet paper.

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Owens wrote:

>

> " have a nice day!! " wrote:

> original article:/group/tae-bo_on/?start=3412

> > Thanks but tonight I had a piece of chocolate cake and a small a

> mount of

> > ice cream, so it looks like I've blown the 21 dc.

> >

> > The thing is, those four days that I was off the sweets, I was eating

> twice

> > as many calories because I was eating other stuff to stay away from

> sweets.

> > so its probably just as well. guess I 'll just have to try using

> > substitutions instead of abstaining.

>

> ,

>

> Try not to be too hard on yourself. It sounds like you are going

> through a very stressful time right now (thinking about leaving dh). I

> hope that things work out for you. It sounds like you made the right

> decision to stop the 21dc if you were overcompensating in calories by

> depriving yourself. After all, a calorie is a calorie. Try not to

> think of it as a failure stopping the 21dc, but rather a wise decision

> based on your own personal needs at this time. I am a firm believer in

> moderation as opposed to depriving myself of something, because

> whenever I have done that in the past, it has always backfired and I

> have just eaten more of whatever it was that I was trying to avoid.

> Might as well just have eaten a little bit of it to begin with and I

> would have been better off. Anyway, that's why I didn't join in on

> this challenge, because there's no way I could have done it.

, I am in total agreement with . I know that 21 DC's work

for some people, but they are not for everyone. I don't do them

because, first, I wouldn't keep it, and, second, I need a program that I

can live with forever. It sounds like you have done just great with

desserts. I wish I could say the same. I was wondering if this is the

" time of the month " (and I wonder why there are no men posting on this

Board) for you? If so, everything (sticking with the 21DC, eating well,

your relationship with the DH, ... ), may seem harder.

Elena

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