Guest guest Posted April 15, 2004 Report Share Posted April 15, 2004 Hi Garnet I am putting my info on the topical Guaifenesin mix I'm experimenting with in case your members would like to see it, though those on the silver list will find it there, too, if it makes it through the spam detector! Is the Guaifenesin molecule too large to work with sublingual and topical methods? I don't know. I haven't checked size of guaifenesin molecule, as I write off line and then forget what I wanted to look up when I am on line. I dare say I will remember to look for the site and check it when I have forgotten often enough. But people report excessive reaction to topical guai, which indicates something, or use it for their muscles, which also indicates it's getting in, or just start having pains when they stop using it, like me! Topical Guai Cream (April 04 formula) 2.5 ml (1/2 tsp) Wagner MSM Joint Formula [Glucosamine and Chondroitin sulphates plus MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane) Ester C (Calcium Ascorbate), Citrus Bioflavonoids, Zinc (as Zinc Oxide), Manganese (as Manganese Sulphate), Copper (as Cupric Sulfate) 3.3mg, Selenium (as Selenomethionine) in a base of dextrose (glucose) and maltodextrin (Nutra-Life Wagner ProBiotics)] www.nutralife.com.au www.nutralife.co.nz 2.5 ml Ultra Muscleze Magnesium Resuscitation Powder [Malic acid, taurine, gluatimine, , L-Carnitine, Phosphorous, calcium, Vits E, B1, B3, B6, B12, Folic acid, Molybdenum, Selenium, Potassium, sodium. Proprietary magnesium chelate known as Chelazone. (Bio Ceuticals, FIT Sales Pty Ltd, Stanmore, NSW)] 2.5 ml Vit C powder (Calcium Ascorbate). The above ingredients were put in a small ointment jar which was then topped up with 75 ml approx. Fludan guaifenesin powder and moistened with 25 ml approx Emu oil. This eliminated air spaces, permitting addition of 25ml approx premixed 60/40 ratio DMSO/CS (EIS) () to produce a thin cream., and 2 ml approx colloidal minerals, which turned it a browner shade of cream. DMSO: Dimethyl Sulphoxide manufactured by Bio- 11 Camden St., Belmont Western Australia l6104 and purchased in a feed store. CS: Colloidal Silver, home made Organic Colloidal Minerals manufactured by Fulhealth Industries, Australia, www.fulhealthindustries.com.au If I'd had Concentrace I would have used that. (Concentrace www.bionatural.com.au or Google for your country) I would have added MSM powder if I'd had any, but there is some in the joint formula. Does it work for Fibromyalgia? I'm very pleased with it; it beats taking capsules or inventing ways to swallow bitter powder. When the cream came to an end it took me a few days to mix up a new batch, and in just that short space of time my fingers took on an old-accustomed stiffness that I had forgotten. Originally I just mixed guai powder and emu oil, then when I started making CS moistened it with that because of grittiness, then when I heard of DMSO . .. . so it goes. -------- VIT B12 TOPICAL (injectable) While I am talking topical and DMSO: I carried out an experiment using B12 (injectable) in DMSO . (2 ml B12, 2 ml DMSO) I rubbed the liquid on my inner wrists and elbows, then on whatever bits of skin I had easy access to. I think I was expecting a sudden burst of youth and vitality, but didn't notice anything until 11pm when I realised I had been working solidly all day. VIT B12 (injectable) as topical preparation See http://www.krysalis.net/b12.htm for basis for experiment The person in the article used a tablet. I think the liquid better, but he probably couldn't get it or was just satisfied with the results of what he did. Rowena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2004 Report Share Posted April 16, 2004 Guaifenesin has a molecular weight of 198.22 - googled it in the end. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Yes, I have been on Guai for 18 months now, and playing with topical for about 6 months. I don't take any orally at all now. At the moment I am doing a herbal cleanse, which will be full of salicylates, which block the action of the guai. So I am not feeling as good as I have been. But that is temporary. I still add emu oil just to get the nicer, smoother texture; there are some veg oils that are low sal, but I have just not looked up what they are yet. Someone asked where I got injectable, that it had been unavailable for years now. I imagine they lived in America, and that Aussie has not caught on that it is available here in the feed stores. I have only used it once so far, but am very interested in what you say. I understand that you use it every day for roughly the first week of the month? I will try that, then. Regards Rowena > > Interesting on the injectible B12, I suppose it can be ordered from a > vet supply if not available elsewhere. I do get a good boost of energy > from it the days I use it, generally the first 5-6 of every month as > recommended, until I don't get the immediate boost any more. Funny how > we don't notice it, because it feels so normal. It's just when the > energy runs out that I take notice, of oh brother, now I have to go > and rest! > > Garnet > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Injectible B12 should be available from a farm supply. It is used in horses a lot and unless I am mistaken is OTC. Same quality as human stuff. Garnet > Yes, I have been on Guai for 18 months now, and playing with topical for > about 6 months. I don't take any orally at all now. > > At the moment I am doing a herbal cleanse, which will be full of > salicylates, which block the action of the guai. So I am not feeling as > good as I have been. But that is temporary. I still add emu oil just to > get the nicer, smoother texture; there are some veg oils that are low sal, > but I have just not looked up what they are yet. > > Someone asked where I got injectable, that it had been unavailable for years > now. I imagine they lived in America, and that Aussie has not caught on > that it is available here in the feed stores. I have only used it once so > far, but am very interested in what you say. I understand that you use it > every day for roughly the first week of the month? I will try that, then. > > Regards > Rowena > > > > Interesting on the injectible B12, I suppose it can be ordered from a > > vet supply if not available elsewhere. I do get a good boost of energy > > from it the days I use it, generally the first 5-6 of every month as > > recommended, until I don't get the immediate boost any more. Funny how > > we don't notice it, because it feels so normal. It's just when the > > energy runs out that I take notice, of oh brother, now I have to go > > and rest! > > > > Garnet > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2004 Report Share Posted April 19, 2004 Further to my formula for the guai topical preparation I tried, I have dropped the lot in the bin today, not even trying to salvage the jar! When I applied it last night there was a red streak in the mix, and I notice this morning that there is also red stuff around the lid. I wiped it off last night and that is the end of that little experiment. I take this red stuff to be some sort of penicillin-like growth, and though it may be what the world needs, I'm not willing to risk it! I noticed someone mention using grapefruit seed extract as a preservative, but that wouldn't do for a guaier. It has doubtless come from or grown on one of the so-clever additions I made to get extra goodness! My next attempt will be the Fludan guai powder with only the DMSO/CS 60/40 mix. I will keep it as a liquid this time and not bother with an oil, and see how that works. Plenty of remedies are liquid. I will also mix up every few days rather than every few weeks! Back at the Drawing Board in Australia Rowena Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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