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At this point, I have no clue now what I'm doing wrong? Do I need to eliminate

chemicals? add chemicals? I heated everything to the right temps & I still have

little beads, there like little wax beads in the lotion. It's like the fat stage

didn't emulsify or disperse completely. Any suggestions would be greatly

appreciated.

Thank-you,

Vaughn

First Stage:

Distilled water 87%

Glycerin 3%

Fat Stage:

Steric Acid 3%

Glyceryl Stearate 3%

Cetylalcohol 2%

Third Stage

Triethanolamine 1%

Last Stage

Germaben II 1%

Heat the fat stage in a double boiler until ingredients are melted to

70-75C.

Heat the water stage in a double boiler to the same tempature 70-75C.

Add the fat stage to the water stage in a steady stream beating all the

time.

When uniform in apperance slowly add the TEA 99

When the tempature has cooled to 45-40C. add the preservative.

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Dear Vaughn,

I have to wonder if your Stearic Acid is getting thoroughly melted. The Stearic

Acid that I use is tiny wax granules. There have been times when I have added a

bit more and the temps have not been sustained enough to melt them completely

and my emulsion feels grainy.

-Cyn

vaughn wolfe wrote:

> At this point, I have no clue now what I'm doing wrong? Do I need to eliminate

chemicals? add chemicals? I heated everything to the right temps & I still have

little beads, there like little wax beads in the lotion. It's like the fat stage

didn't emulsify or disperse completely. Any suggestions would be greatly

appreciated.

>

> Thank-you,

> Vaughn

>

> First Stage:

> Distilled water 87%

> Glycerin 3%

>

> Fat Stage:

> Steric Acid 3%

> Glyceryl Stearate 3%

> Cetylalcohol 2%

>

> Third Stage

> Triethanolamine 1%

>

> Last Stage

> Germaben II 1%

>

> Heat the fat stage in a double boiler until ingredients are melted to

> 70-75C.

>

> Heat the water stage in a double boiler to the same tempature 70-75C.

>

> Add the fat stage to the water stage in a steady stream beating all the

> time.

>

> When uniform in apperance slowly add the TEA 99

>

> When the tempature has cooled to 45-40C. add the preservative.

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> At this point, I have no clue now what I'm doing wrong? Do I need to

eliminate chemicals? add chemicals? I heated everything to the right temps &

I still have little beads, there like little wax beads in the lotion. It's

like the fat stage didn't emulsify or disperse completely. Any suggestions

would be greatly appreciated.

Vaughn, are you mixing this continuously during the cool down? If not, try

that and see how it turns out.

Pat.

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Vaughn,

When you heat your batch everything must be to temperature and all of the

fats and oils must be completely melted and clear. Another thing is that you

should dilute the TEA in a portion of the water from the batch. TEA is a

viscous liquid and it is difficult to get it all out of the vessel in which

you weighed it. If you make a TEA phase for your batch using 1% TEA and 5%

Water this will help. Stir the TEA solution well to insure that it is all

mixed and in solution. I think that perhaps you lost too much TEA during

this transfer and the batch is not emulsified because there was not enough

TEA present. You can check this if you have access to a pH meter. The pH of

your batch should be ~7.2. My guess is that it will be about 6.0-6.5 in

which case it is not neutralized and emulsified.

Young

KY Labs

Innovators of Fine Personal Care Products

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3rd batch of lotion

At this point, I have no clue now what I'm doing wrong? Do I need to

eliminate chemicals? add chemicals? I heated everything to the right temps &

I still have little beads, there like little wax beads in the lotion. It's

like the fat stage didn't emulsify or disperse completely. Any suggestions

would be greatly appreciated.

Thank-you,

Vaughn

First Stage:

Distilled water 87%

Glycerin 3%

Fat Stage:

Steric Acid 3%

Glyceryl Stearate 3%

Cetylalcohol 2%

Third Stage

Triethanolamine 1%

Last Stage

Germaben II 1%

Heat the fat stage in a double boiler until ingredients are melted to

70-75C.

Heat the water stage in a double boiler to the same tempature 70-75C.

Add the fat stage to the water stage in a steady stream beating all the

time.

When uniform in apperance slowly add the TEA 99

When the tempature has cooled to 45-40C. add the preservative.

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I would add the TEA to the water phase just before the oil phase

addition (in particular before the stearic acid addition). This way

you are forming the stearate at the same time as the GMS/oils are

added and this should emulsify better.

Dave Eastham

>

> First Stage:

> Distilled water 87%

> Glycerin 3%

>

> Fat Stage:

> Steric Acid 3%

> Glyceryl Stearate 3%

> Cetylalcohol 2%

>

> Third Stage

> Triethanolamine 1%

>

> Last Stage

> Germaben II 1%

>

> Heat the fat stage in a double boiler until ingredients are melted

to

> 70-75C.

>

> Heat the water stage in a double boiler to the same tempature 70-

75C.

>

> Add the fat stage to the water stage in a steady stream beating all

the

> time.

>

> When uniform in apperance slowly add the TEA 99

>

> When the tempature has cooled to 45-40C. add the preservative.

>

>

>

>

>

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