Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Bobby, I'm sorry to hear about your Uncle . Please know that I am praying for you and your family as you face this time of loss. I pray he goes peacefully. Love and hugs......... Diane My uncle I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 I'm sorry to hear about your uncle Bobby. You have my prayers. Always, MaC Bob Aragon wrote: I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Hi Bobby, I'm sorry to hear about your uncle. My thoughts and prayers are with you. Take care. Penny > > I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is > just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. > > long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Walking Eagle, Some learned scientists insist there is a genetic link to alcoholism. All the Dr.s I have asked about it think it is so. They supposedly have done some tests with rats. Both test groups of rats were given water to drink at first. Then ½ the rats were injected with brain fluid from a cadaver alcoholic. Then they were offered water or a very diluted ethanol cocktail. The rats injected, immediately ignored their water bowl and chose alcohol everytime. I say supposedly because it has been many years since I heard about the studies. I have never believed it to be a learned behavior or some character fault. Unfortunately, this gene is found in large numbers within the Northern European and Native American gene pool. I never had a chance as I have both heritages. I am not sure if I believe everything in the study and I'm not 100% I have all the facts of the study correct as I rely on memory from years ago. For what it's worth it gives me pause to think sometimes? That penny analogy was funny. Our Daddy used to tease us kids because of our thick eyebrows and tell us we came from the “hairy-eyed tribe” LOL. He had a way of saying everything wjth such a dry sense of humor. Look here WE, give your family my best wishes and your Uncle a pat on the shoulder. I couldn't find your posted pic. Hang tough..... Subject: My uncle To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:09 PM I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Praying for your Uncle ! Hang in there Bobby! Love, Pamela ----- Original Message ----- From: > > I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is > just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. > > long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 8, 2008 Report Share Posted October 8, 2008 Chief, look in my photo album. It'll be on the second page. You probably didnt turn the page. Just a hunch. Thanks for the well wishes. BTW, my grandfather whom I was named " " after was a severe alcoholic. He spent time in the state hospital down In Pueblo Colo. Back then they just gave you shock treatment. He died of suicide after 10 years of sobriety, so I think depression runs in my family as well, because his daughter, my dear old mom has severe depression. Also, she was well on her way to alcoholism when I was younger, and I would not bet a wooden nickel on her liver in a bet. Most of my entire family drink heavily. In fact, after my diagnosis, they drink all the more. I have never seen them drink so much , and I dont like to be around too much. So it works both ways, they dont like the new sober Bob with encephalopathy, and I dont like the universal lushism. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer My uncle To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:09 PM I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 aww Bobby my little bro, I'm so sorry to hear about your Uncle. I'll keep your family ( as always) in my prayers. Call me whenever you want. Love ya buddy, I live in my own little world, they like me there! Subject: My uncle To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 6:09 PM I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 9, 2008 Report Share Posted October 9, 2008 Bobby, I like ya just the way you are !!!! by the way... when I quit drinking 20 yrs ago. I couldn't STAND being around drinkers. They AREN'T as funny as they think LOL ! love you my friend, I live in my own little world, they like me there! Subject: My uncle To: livercirrhosissupport Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 7:09 PM I have an uncle on my dad's side. His name is Aprecio. He is my dad's sister Viola's husband. I have often used him as an example of how long you can potentially live with end stage liver disease and continue to drink. He has had ascites for over 6 years. There are some here who have a spouse who has been diagnosed but still drinks. My uncle chose to continue to drink. Ardis did the same. Well, he is dying. I have been hearing that he is dying now for several years, but it looks like this time he really is. Hospice is now by his side, and might move him to an inpatient facility, or not I dont know. My dad called just now to tell me this. Uncle is a full blood indian while the rest of us are mixed. He was the color of a well worn penny. I never saw him sober. I used to always say to myself, " even though I drink a lot, I dont drink any where near what Uncle does. " . I guess it doesnt really matter. I am not judging him at all, it is just so ironic that he is dying right now, with in the hospice, and Regina's mom in such a bad way. They say it alway happens in threes. How odd. I added a picture of him to my album. Its the last one in there. Love Bobby. long life, old age, everything good-Apache prayer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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