Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Dear , Perhaps you need to be encouraging this patient to take responsibility for her own health and looking at why she has been prescribed medications, from GP or neurologist and what the issues are, instead of just accepting everything she's told without question. I've had patients being told, in all seriousness that the objective is to get their cholesterol down to zero!!! In a way only she can decide whether the muscle pains are a good pay off for the reduced levels of cholesterol and what about stopping them for a while, monitoring the improvement and then deciding. Re: 3rd time lucky? List Owner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Hi Alison, The statin manufacturers certainly seem to be on a financial roll, promoting these creatures as cure-alls, to GPs who seem to have forgotten their basic physiology. Perhaps both parties should be forced to wear those " The liver is evil and must be punished " T-shirts that you see around. All the best, Krystyna PS: I have yet to see a patient whose total cholesterol reading has been accompanied by an HDL/LDL breakdown. At 10:36 21/07/2004, you wrote: >Could it possibly be the GP who is being irresponsible here? Considering >that muscular pain is the only side effect the BNF notes as serious enough >to stop the treatment....... Presumably others have noticed the vastly >increased popularity of statins? Could it be that the drug companies have >got frit over their drop in HRT profits and are offering GPs big incentives >to push statins? Hush my mouth, how could I utter such profanities! >Alison Morton > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 In my experience, patients with sensible diets who use a relevant selection of the numerous herbal and dietary options for lowering cholesterol respond splendidly, rendering the statins irrelevant. ( mine do turn up with HDL / LDL breakdown and they improve after treatment (Perhaps thats the reason they're starting to talk about zero cholesterol levels!) (What does the body do for hormone etc substrate if it doesn't have any cholesterol?..) Sally Sally Owen MNIMH Medical Herbalist Mid Wales sally@... On Wednesday, July 21, 2004, at 10:50 AM, Allshorn wrote: > Dear , Perhaps you need to be encouraging this patient to take > responsibility for her own health and looking at why she has been > prescribed > medications, from GP or neurologist and what the issues are, instead > of just > accepting everything she's told without question. I've had patients > being > told, in all seriousness that the objective is to get their > cholesterol down > to zero!!! In a way only she can decide whether the muscle pains are a > good > pay off for the reduced levels of cholesterol and what about stopping > them > for a while, monitoring the improvement and then deciding. > > Re: 3rd time lucky? > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2004 Report Share Posted July 21, 2004 Sally Owen wrote: > (Perhaps thats the reason they're starting to talk about zero > cholesterol levels!) Or they want to kill'em off faster? And sell more meds for all the side effects, too. > (What does the body do for hormone etc substrate if it doesn't have any > cholesterol?..) If you have no dietary cholesterol the liver will make what it needs, and perhaps overproduce while its at it. So some rabid vegans have weird weird weird cholesterol readings, as their livers compensate for the lack of dietary cholesterols ... The only time you don't have enough cholesterol for hormones is when you're reduced to one big belly with sticks for limbs. At that point you worry about other things, not your HDL/LDL levels ... Henriette -- Henriette Kress, AHG Helsinki, Finland Henriette's herbal homepage: http://www.ibiblio.org/herbmed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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