Re: motorless air purifier/for Carl

[Guest guest]

Sue,

I'm more than happy to repeat, and it will probably be better anyway.

First, there is a difference between an ozonator and an ionizer. It

sounds like your husband's coworkers have a purifier that also has an

ionizer.

The confusion is primarily caused by those that sell ozone generators

who disguise them as ion generators. From a " chemistry " point of view

ozone is an ion, so they aren't entirely wrong in their claim. But

ozone is a specific ion (oxygen). Ions can be any of thousands. Using

such language is like calling a pit bull breeding factory a dog

breeding factory. True, but not the whole truth.

To further confuse the issue, many ion generators also create ozone.

But the level of ozone is hundreds to thousands of time lower than

those designed to generate ozone.

So, if the purpose is to generate ozone to " purify " the air and the

switch is to limit the levels of ozone to below a certain level,

ususally the outdoor limit of .05 ppm, then this is not good even

with the limit switch working properly.

If the purpose is to filter the air with the help of a ionizer, then

the ions produced are most likely okay and the ozone is minimal at

worst.

Keep in mind, though, the individual needs of people because some on

this group, for example, cannot tolerate the ions themselves or the

very low levels of ozone they may create.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> Hi Carl, I have a question about the ozone you mention in air

> purifiers. I know you have discussed this before but I can't remember

> the reason not to have the ionizer type. Some coworkers of my husband

> have purchased air purifiers for the

> office and have a

> button they can use or not use the ionizer. I told him not to use it

> but couldn't remember why. Can you please explain it again so I can

> give it to him to share with the others.

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> Thanks so much and this time I'll save it!!

> Sue

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> Elyse,

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> I can certainly sympathize with your lack of tolerance for noise from

> air purifiers. And there are some decent ones that don't have motors

> and are therefore silent.

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> But you must understand that the ones without fans have a Clean Air

> Delivery Rate (CADR) that is extremely low (e.g. 20-30), which means

> you will need 3-10 times as many of them of them to clean the air of

> one HEPA purifier with a CADR of 100-300. So buy the less expensive

> ones.

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> Also, carefully investigate for any geneation of ozone, whether

> intentional or not. Be sure to buy from a source that has a money-

> back guarantee so if you aren't satisified for any reason, including

> reacting to the device itself, you can return it for a refund.

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> The only infrared device I've heard of claims to " cook " the mold to

> kill it. Unfortunately that does not denature the mold so it has the

> same allergic, irritant and neuro-toxic properites as live mold.

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> As for reducing your allergic reactions if helps to focus on finding

> and removing what you are allergic to. Don't worry about what you

> aren't allergic to or otherwise nonreactive. For example, if you have

> lots of allergies but not to cats, then you can get or keep a cat.

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> Finally, the level of reactivity is important. An impact that is a

> hay fever nuisance is much different than an impact that causes 5 day

> migraines or life threatening asthma. The higher the impact the more

> diligence is required for fully identifying sources and the

> completeness of removal.

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> Some on this group, for example, can tolerate having only the mold

> growth removed from the house but many are so reactive they cannot

> tolerate ANY contents that were in the house. Even after multiple

> cleanings. It is important to evaluate impact for making decisions

> about how much to do and how clean is clean. For you.

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> I realize this is very general but I hope it helps. More specific

> guidance requires more specific information. But keep the above

> general process in mind as you read the personal stories of others on

> this group. There is a LOT of expertise and wisdom here for some

> truly caring people.

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> Carl Grimes

> Healthy Habitats LLC

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[Guest guest]

Thanks very much, Carl, but it's still confusing to me. I have a Holmes

brand at home but I don't use the ionizer switch because I thought it was bad

for

our health. Should we be using it or not?

Thanks, Sue

Sue,

I'm more than happy to repeat, and it will probably be better anyway.

First, there is a difference between an ozonator and an ionizer. It

sounds like your husband's coworkers have a purifier that also has an

ionizer.