Re: PRIORY IN SICKNESSES/SCHALLER, MD-thank-you

[Guest guest]

Dr. Schaller,

I get it it now and you are so right. I have seen in my experience that many

who have been exposed to mold experience temporary frontal lobe problems (some

permanent) which just makes making decisions on what to treat first all the more

diffucult. Unfortunately, by the time one see's someone like Dr. Shoemaker

there are all sorts of health problems and it becomes beyond overwhelming to

know which one's to address first. My heart goes out to familes who are having

to deal with mutliple problems all at once, with multiple family members!

So, yes, we DO need to treat the toxins first..what good does it do to treat

the other problems if damage is still being done..

Thanks for your time and imput..IT IS VERY MUCH appreciated!

jschaller <jschaller@...> wrote:

Dear ,

" Do not put Mold exposure on equal footing on the medical " TO DO " list.........

What I meant is below:

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Right now if we did all of Dr. Shoemaker's thorough top-flight labs and added

some other's associated with some of my other interests, and took a good long

history over an hour or two, we would find about 3-12 medical issues. And I am

NOT counting obvious things like insulin related Diabetes or a broken bone from

a slip. We are talking about things missed in the HMO rat race with 3 tubes of

blood to check for organ failure.

ADD TO THIS some of the things one finds in the integrative or " alternative "

medicine camp-- do you recall it was not so long ago nutrients for cartilage

protection was 99% mocked-- now it is in Centrum!

So in aggressive allopathic medicine like Dr. Shoemaker's care, and add

integrative medicine's disease and death prevention goals, one can have a long

TO DO list. I think these are fine, and we do the same things with all aspects

of life. It is just that in serious mold exposure situations, very little short

of a heart attack, stroke, or gun blast should come BEFORE removal from exposure

and biotoxin binding. These things are so dangerous they are not even accepted

as chemotherapy agents. When the smallest dose of the poison is given to kill

cancer and it just makes folks diffusely ill--more then just runny noses--you

are talking biowarfare agent as is well discussed in our two books with Dr.

Rosen, and which has been posted on this list as I recall at some point.

And what we find is that some very well read folks, do themselves harm by trying

to fix 10 things at the same time, and do none well. This is what I meant to

say. They take a packet of CSM while in a home with visible and clearly smelled

mold while taking different supplements. This is one of 50 examples.

I think when we are most ill, we most need a coach to help with frontal lobe

task completion trouble and prioritization. Basically, someone to help you do

the first major corrections right. But they have to buy the problem or they are

1950's dinosaurs and medically useless...... who still smoke and think it is OK.

Best regards,

Schaller, MD

Florida

Re: [] PRIORY IN SICKNESSES/SCHALLER, MD/QUESTION

Dr. Schaller,

Thanks for you imput, it will help many on this board. I was just wondering if

you could clarify and anyone else for that matter regarding the information at

the end of section number #3, in particular I got lost when you were talking

about " Do not put Mold exposure on equal footing on the medical " TO DO " list...

thanks,

jschaller <jschaller@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Some posts have made me think to appeal to you on a crucial issue--what you

should get fixed first and with what tools.

1) If you are in a moldy sick structure this really is treatment one, since as a

trend most folks cannot out run 121,000 respirations a week if 24 hour exposure

or 60,000 respirations sucking in mycotoxins per 12 hours. This will generally

cause you to inhale and swallow more than CSM can remove if meaningfully high

mycotoxins.

2) Some think that there are better binders then Cholestyramine, and perhaps CSM

is just one Dr. Shoemaker is familiar with as an allopathic MD physician, and

that alternative binders would be as good or almost as good. WRONG. So far, in

my preliminary binders book study of 40 articles, it seems other options grab

some of the mycotoxins they are exposed to but the problem with a body and

building vs. grain, is the grain binders usually only have a small number of

mycotoxins and mold species--at times just one to bind. Yet in a building, one

often has a mycotoxin soup from many molds and many mycotoxins. So your binder

better be able to connect and hold many chemicals. I have not seen anything in

traditional or integrative medicine that can match CSM so far. Perhaps the

binder options book will help next year.

3) ALTERNATIVE LABS AND TREATMENTS--I am as open as the sky to options and

treatments. I wrote the first patient and physician clinician book in English on

the malaria (and cancer drug) promoted by the WHO and UNICEF called Artemisia

which is a Chinese herb. I say this as an example of my broadness. Yet, I find

some need to be careful with some openness which leads to chaos and 10

treatments all at once from 10 folks. Also, do not to put mold exposure on an

equal footing on the medical " TO DO " list. It is like being shot in the chest.

We fix that before fixing a broken finger. It is not as important as removing a

little heavy metal. It is not as important as a quality diet in the short

term---we are talking chest wound and that has to be top of the list.

I also believe in many different ways to diagnoses and treat, but feel that Dr.

Shoemaker was in the right place and right time with right intellect and

sacrifice to assemble many indirect and direct measures from solid labs to show

the effects of mycotoxins on the human body. I have seen 15 other mycotoxin

diagnosis approaches, and find them usually flawed or limited in terms of the

acceptance of the lab and the treatments.

4) It is about the mycotoxins on the spores not the spores.

Any treatment that is focused on spores is 1980's medicine..... Unless it is an

AIDS patient with spores unable to be controlled. In war biotoxin material the

issue is the mold toxins not the spores.

5) So do not get tangential.

Read Mold Warriors. If you cannot read it, consider the Rosen/Schaller book When

Traditional Medicine Fails. If you cannot read even one page fully, then you

will have to start with Mold Illness and Mold Remediation Made Simple

(Schaller/Rosen). Why? Because like a crime scene folks do many innocent but

accidentally " dumb " things when filled with brain fog. This is written for folks

who want to know in 60 minutes what not to do wrong, or help sick folks to not

make things worse with comics and pictures. As we know, many smart folks just do

not know this new basic science of building hygiene, and hurt themselves worse

in first days and seasons. Still get Mold Warriors and as you are get better it

helps as a reference, and then as you improve even more you will be able to read

it fully.

Best of Health,

Schaller, MD

Florida