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[Guest guest]

I have noticed that the posts in recent seasons have had a tone and mood that is

much improved from some of the bitterness and caustic posts in the distant past.

I think this is no small thing. When ill, the Frontal lobes and other parts of

the brain are inflamed and a drop of water can feel like a stab wound, and a

certain personae or a phrase can make us want to eat bark. Or perhaps that is

just me. Bark is actually under rated as a garnish and free fiber source.

I guess I am saying I think folks are trying to be not merely civil, but caring

and affectionate even if differences. And folks appreciate the limits of folks

on the list. Since none of us can do all the good we might wish to do......

Really good work!

Peace,

Schaller, MD

Re: [] PRIORY IN SICKNESSES/SCHALLER, MD/QUESTION

Dr. Schaller,

Thanks for you imput, it will help many on this board. I was just wondering if

you could clarify and anyone else for that matter regarding the information at

the end of section number #3, in particular I got lost when you were talking

about " Do not put Mold exposure on equal footing on the medical " TO DO " list...

thanks,

jschaller <jschaller@...> wrote:

Dear Friends,

Some posts have made me think to appeal to you on a crucial issue--what you

should get fixed first and with what tools.

1) If you are in a moldy sick structure this really is treatment one, since as

a trend most folks cannot out run 121,000 respirations a week if 24 hour

exposure or 60,000 respirations sucking in mycotoxins per 12 hours. This will

generally cause you to inhale and swallow more than CSM can remove if

meaningfully high mycotoxins.

2) Some think that there are better binders then Cholestyramine, and perhaps

CSM is just one Dr. Shoemaker is familiar with as an allopathic MD physician,

and that alternative binders would be as good or almost as good. WRONG. So far,

in my preliminary binders book study of 40 articles, it seems other options grab

some of the mycotoxins they are exposed to but the problem with a body and

building vs. grain, is the grain binders usually only have a small number of

mycotoxins and mold species--at times just one to bind. Yet in a building, one

often has a mycotoxin soup from many molds and many mycotoxins. So your binder

better be able to connect and hold many chemicals. I have not seen anything in

traditional or integrative medicine that can match CSM so far. Perhaps the

binder options book will help next year.

3) ALTERNATIVE LABS AND TREATMENTS--I am as open as the sky to options and

treatments. I wrote the first patient and physician clinician book in English on

the malaria (and cancer drug) promoted by the WHO and UNICEF called Artemisia

which is a Chinese herb. I say this as an example of my broadness. Yet, I find

some need to be careful with some openness which leads to chaos and 10

treatments all at once from 10 folks. Also, do not to put mold exposure on an

equal footing on the medical " TO DO " list. It is like being shot in the chest.

We fix that before fixing a broken finger. It is not as important as removing a

little heavy metal. It is not as important as a quality diet in the short

term---we are talking chest wound and that has to be top of the list.

I also believe in many different ways to diagnoses and treat, but feel that

Dr. Shoemaker was in the right place and right time with right intellect and

sacrifice to assemble many indirect and direct measures from solid labs to show

the effects of mycotoxins on the human body. I have seen 15 other mycotoxin

diagnosis approaches, and find them usually flawed or limited in terms of the

acceptance of the lab and the treatments.

4) It is about the mycotoxins on the spores not the spores.

Any treatment that is focused on spores is 1980's medicine..... Unless it is

an AIDS patient with spores unable to be controlled. In war biotoxin material

the issue is the mold toxins not the spores.

5) So do not get tangential.

Read Mold Warriors. If you cannot read it, consider the Rosen/Schaller book

When Traditional Medicine Fails. If you cannot read even one page fully, then

you will have to start with Mold Illness and Mold Remediation Made Simple

(Schaller/Rosen). Why? Because like a crime scene folks do many innocent but

accidentally " dumb " things when filled with brain fog. This is written for folks

who want to know in 60 minutes what not to do wrong, or help sick folks to not

make things worse with comics and pictures. As we know, many smart folks just do

not know this new basic science of building hygiene, and hurt themselves worse

in first days and seasons. Still get Mold Warriors and as you are get better it

helps as a reference, and then as you improve even more you will be able to read

it fully.

Best of Health,

Schaller, MD

Florida

[Guest guest]

Dr Schaller,

I personally appreciate your contributions and I agree with your

observation about the improved tone of the group. Speaking of chewing

bark, out here in Colorado chewing Aspen bark is supposed to be as

effective as swallowing aspirin.

Carl Grimes

Healthy Habitats LLC

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> I have noticed that the posts in recent seasons have had a tone and

> mood that is much improved from some of the bitterness and caustic

> posts in the distant past. I think this is no small thing. When ill,

> the Frontal lobes and other parts of the brain are inflamed and a drop

> of water can feel like a stab wound, and a certain personae or a

> phrase can make us want to eat bark. Or perhaps that is just me.

> Bark is actually under rated as a garnish and free fiber source.

>

> I guess I am saying I think folks are trying to be not merely civil,

> but caring and affectionate even if differences. And folks appreciate

> the limits of folks on the list. Since none of us can do all the good

> we might wish to do......

>

> Really good work!

>

> Peace,

>

> Schaller, MD

>

>

> Re: [] PRIORY IN SICKNESSES/SCHALLER,

> MD/QUESTION

>

>

> Dr. Schaller,

>

> Thanks for you imput, it will help many on this board. I was just

> wondering if you could clarify and anyone else for that matter

> regarding the information at the end of section number #3, in

> particular I got lost when you were talking about " Do not put Mold

> exposure on equal footing on the medical " TO DO " list...

>

> thanks,

>

>

>

> jschaller <jschaller@...> wrote:

> Dear Friends,

>

> Some posts have made me think to appeal to you on a crucial

> issue--what you should get fixed first and with what tools.

>

> 1) If you are in a moldy sick structure this really is treatment

> one, since as a trend most folks cannot out run 121,000 respirations

> a week if 24 hour exposure or 60,000 respirations sucking in

> mycotoxins per 12 hours. This will generally cause you to inhale and

> swallow more than CSM can remove if meaningfully high mycotoxins.

>

> 2) Some think that there are better binders then Cholestyramine, and

> perhaps CSM is just one Dr. Shoemaker is familiar with as an

> allopathic MD physician, and that alternative binders would be as

> good or almost as good. WRONG. So far, in my preliminary binders

> book study of 40 articles, it seems other options grab some of the

> mycotoxins they are exposed to but the problem with a body and

> building vs. grain, is the grain binders usually only have a small

> number of mycotoxins and mold species--at times just one to bind.

> Yet in a building, one often has a mycotoxin soup from many molds

> and many mycotoxins. So your binder better be able to connect and

> hold many chemicals. I have not seen anything in traditional or

> integrative medicine that can match CSM so far. Perhaps the binder

> options book will help next year.

>

> 3) ALTERNATIVE LABS AND TREATMENTS--I am as open as the sky to

> options and treatments. I wrote the first patient and physician

> clinician book in English on the malaria (and cancer drug) promoted

> by the WHO and UNICEF called Artemisia which is a Chinese herb. I

> say this as an example of my broadness. Yet, I find some need to be

> careful with some openness which leads to chaos and 10 treatments

> all at once from 10 folks. Also, do not to put mold exposure on an

> equal footing on the medical " TO DO " list. It is like being shot in

> the chest. We fix that before fixing a broken finger. It is not as

> important as removing a little heavy metal. It is not as important

> as a quality diet in the short term---we are talking chest wound and

> that has to be top of the list.

>

> I also believe in many different ways to diagnoses and treat, but

> feel that Dr. Shoemaker was in the right place and right time with

> right intellect and sacrifice to assemble many indirect and direct

> measures from solid labs to show the effects of mycotoxins on the

> human body. I have seen 15 other mycotoxin diagnosis approaches, and

> find them usually flawed or limited in terms of the acceptance of

> the lab and the treatments.

>

> 4) It is about the mycotoxins on the spores not the spores.

> Any treatment that is focused on spores is 1980's medicine.....

> Unless it is an AIDS patient with spores unable to be controlled. In

> war biotoxin material the issue is the mold toxins not the spores.

>

> 5) So do not get tangential.

> Read Mold Warriors. If you cannot read it, consider the

> Rosen/Schaller book When Traditional Medicine Fails. If you cannot

> read even one page fully, then you will have to start with Mold

> Illness and Mold Remediation Made Simple (Schaller/Rosen). Why?

> Because like a crime scene folks do many innocent but accidentally

> " dumb " things when filled with brain fog. This is written for folks

> who want to know in 60 minutes what not to do wrong, or help sick

> folks to not make things worse with comics and pictures. As we know,

> many smart folks just do not know this new basic science of building

> hygiene, and hurt themselves worse in first days and seasons. Still

> get Mold Warriors and as you are get better it helps as a reference,

> and then as you improve even more you will be able to read it fully.

>

> Best of Health,

>

> Schaller, MD

> Florida

>

>