Re: PRIORITY IN SICKNESSES/SCHALLER, MD/QUESTION

[Guest guest]

I have found the use of acupuncture and herbs to often be ineffective while

one remains in the moldy environment. The use of Chinese medicine during this

time can make things worse. Herbs and acupuncture can chase symptoms and

then drive them inward. Acupuncture during exposure should be avoided or

limited. Acupuncture stimulates the immune system, which is already over

stimulated in attempting to fight off and or expel the avoiding source, the

mycotoxins. The correct use of an herbal formula may help, but can also drive

symptoms

inward and or just chase them during an exposure.

I often find symptoms of mycotoxin exposure starting out with the

superficial layer of allergies and rashes, then proceeding onto deeper organ

levels as

the individual remains in the offending environment. This also corresponds

to theory in Chinese medicine. By treating the superficial symptoms without

treating the root cause [mycotoxin exposure and the need for avoidance] a

practitioner may end up at best chasing symptoms. And not every case starts

out

with the more superficial symptoms.

Unfortunately antibiotics are so often necessary and required many times in

the course of the different infections that occur during mold exposure. It

can be many years before the individual even realizes that their symptoms are

due to elevated levels of mycotoxins in their environments. The frequent use

of antibiotics can then create further problems.

The majority of us here agree with the immediate action of avoidance and

following Dr. Shoemakers protocol as the initial steps to recovery. After this

has been accomplished is when the use of alternative modalities are most

effective to help bring our bodies back into balance. The frequent use of

antibiotics can then be addressed with these alternative modalities.

The " Freezing " that is manifested as a result of exposure in only being

able to take care of what is absolutely necessary for that day (if even that

much) and letting everything else go, is so very common. So often this remains

a problem even when out of the exposure and well past this time. I believe

the blend of the cognitive impairments along with a Post Traumatic Stress

Disorder (PTSD) that many develop, creates this inability to move forward in

taking actions. I would love to hear your thoughts on this as an MD.

Yes, a coach would be wonderful. Wouldn't it be great if there were

" coaches " educated and versed in mold exposure available that are ready and

willing

to take over in taking care of what needs to be done. In the long run it

would end up saving us money in all the costs for housing with belongings just

sitting there, costs for storage just sitting there, etc., and all that one

goes through with this dreaded mycotoxin exposure and are unable to deal with.

Bobbins, RN, L.Ac, QME

In a message dated 11/14/2006 8:01:54 AM Central Standard Time,

jschaller@... writes:

And what we find is that some very well read folks, do themselves harm by

trying to fix 10 things at the same time, and do none well. This is what I

meant . Basically, someone to help you do the first major corrections right.

But

they have to buy the problem to say. They take a packet of CSM while in a

home with visible and clearly smelled mold while taking different supplements.

This is one of 50 examples.

I think when we are most ill, we most need a coach to help with frontal lobe

task completion trouble and prioritizationor they are 1950's dinosaurs and

medically useless.....I think when we are most ill, we most need

Best regards,

Schaller, MD

Florida

[Guest guest]

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Yes, a coach really helps- through this last terrible molding in the

spring- I turned my brain over to my best friend- a chiropracter- who

has been trough all my mold education with me for years and

understood it perfectly-she made cleaning proticals for me and made

most decisions. I did everything she said because I knew I could not

trust my own brain-even when a person has been through it before and

knows everything they should be doing- it is very hard without a

brain of your own to act- and to act without making mistakes is even

harder.. I was very lucky to have her to act in my behalf. To

everyone who is sick- that is the time to call in all markers- ask

for help- you cannot do it on your own

>> The " Freezing " that is manifested as a result of exposure in

only being

> able to take care of what is absolutely necessary for that day (if

even that

> much) and letting everything else go, is so very common. So often

this remains

> a problem even when out of the exposure and well past this time. I

believe

> the blend of the cognitive impairments along with a Post Traumatic

Stress

> Disorder (PTSD) that many develop, creates this inability to move

forward in

> taking actions. I would love to hear your thoughts on this as an

MD.

>

> Yes, a coach would be wonderful. Wouldn't it be great if there

were

> " coaches " educated and versed in mold exposure available that are

ready and willing

> to take over in taking care of what needs to be done. In the long

run it

> would end up saving us money in all the costs for housing with

belongings just

> sitting there, costs for storage just sitting there, etc., and all

that one

> goes through with this dreaded mycotoxin exposure and are unable

to deal with.

>

> Bobbins, RN, L.Ac, QME

>

> In a message dated 11/14/2006 8:01:54 AM Central Standard Time,

> jschaller@... writes:

>

> And what we find is that some very well read folks, do themselves

harm by

> trying to fix 10 things at the same time, and do none well. This

is what I

> meant . Basically, someone to help you do the first major

corrections right. But

> they have to buy the problem to say. They take a packet of CSM

while in a

> home with visible and clearly smelled mold while taking different

supplements.

> This is one of 50 examples.

>

> I think when we are most ill, we most need a coach to help with

frontal lobe

> task completion trouble and prioritizationor they are 1950's

dinosaurs and

> medically useless.....I think when we are most ill, we most need

>

> Best regards,

>

> Schaller, MD

> Florida

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Think of all the people who can't afford a coach or indeed anything extra at

all.. how many of them end up homeless or worse because of this..

a lot...