Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hi everyone, here's a tricky one; does anyone have any experience of using bloodroot (Sanguinaria canadensis) as a paste, to apply to the chest in the treatment of lung cancer, to 'help draw it out'. I have a pt who's father has lung cancer and she has read about this somewhere, she also read that it is very toxic and must only be used by a practitioner and with constant supervision. I have only ever used it internally for bronchial conditions and I know it is emetic in large doses, it does have local anaesthetic properties and can also be used in a nasal spray for nasal polyps, but I can't find any references for application in this way. Thanks Maggie Bras again Looking through the emails recently there was a query regarding large bras. Ambrose 08706099000 will send a catalogue, they stock American bras-Glamorize up to 54 H cup. They do have built in padded shoulder straps and are front fastening. Tina.Alder Alnus@... List Owner Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2004 Report Share Posted November 24, 2004 Hi Maggie look on http://www.cancersalves.com for the best information about these escharotic salves; there are some 'interesting' pictures of before, during and after treatments with breast cancer. Ingrid Naiman is the author of the relevant book and the site and has done much research into salves which can include Sanguinaria and Trifolium etc. The drawing is done by zinc oxide and criticisms of this method have included the allegation that the drawing of the ointment leaves craters in the skin, which don't fill in, and the fact that the whole routine can be painful. I certainly wouldnt advise anyone using it to draw out lung cancers! I think that I'm right in saying that it would be illegal in this country for a practitioner to treat a cancer in this way - no doubt someone can clarify this! jenny Boys > Hi everyone, here's a tricky one; does anyone have any experience of using > bloodroot (Sanguinaria canadensis) as a paste, to apply to the chest in the > treatment of lung cancer, to 'help draw it out'. > I have a pt who's father has lung cancer and she has read about this > somewhere, she also read that it is very toxic and must only be used by a > practitioner and with constant supervision. > I have only ever used it internally for bronchial conditions and I know it > is emetic in large doses, it does have local anaesthetic properties and can > also be used in a nasal spray for nasal polyps, but I can't find any > references for application in this way. > Thanks > Maggie > Bras again > > > > Looking through the emails recently there was a query regarding > large bras. > Ambrose 08706099000 will send a catalogue, they stock > American bras-Glamorize up to 54 H cup. They do have built in > padded shoulder straps and are front fastening. > Tina.Alder > Alnus@b... > > > > > > List Owner > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 28, 2004 Report Share Posted November 28, 2004 In dale 29th Edition, page 936, you will found the BP Compound Zinc Past at 25% (yes twenty five) concentration in a paste that is prescribed to protect the skin. Many other Zinc Oxide preparations are used daily as skin barriers, see any dermatology book. How does that fit with the affirmation that the Zinc Oxide is destroying tissues???? Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD. " The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind " . -- Bras again > > > > > > > > Looking through the emails recently there was a query regarding > > large bras. > > Ambrose 08706099000 will send a catalogue, they stock > > American bras-Glamorize up to 54 H cup. They do have built in > > padded shoulder straps and are front fastening. > > Tina.Alder > > Alnus@b... > > > > > > > > > > > > List Owner > > > > > > > > Graham White, MNIMH > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Sorry, my apologies. I was so worried about the possibility of someone going away and using this stuff that I relied on memory in replying to query about the salves. Memory was faulty. As you quite rightly say zinc oxide is fine, well unless you're like me and have an allergic reaction to it. The stuff in the salves is actually zinc chloride which is itself an escharotics. The oncologist I was working with also saw the patient concerned and having seen damage that the zinc chloride can do to healthy tissue confirmed that this was the most likely culprit even without the addition of herbs which may be doing similar. He was, quite rightly horrified by the effects as were both the doctors treating the patient's concerned. Hope this clarifies. My apologies for having been in too much of a rush in responding. It really was very upsetting, not only in terms of the damage done to the patient's but also because this was done as purportedly herbal medicine. Neither patient was aware that the product they were using contained anything other than plant products and both were convinced they were removing tumor tissue. As I said before this is the real quackery that we need to combat in talking with people. Again my apologies and many thanks for pointing that out. Re: Re: bloodroot paste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Makes sense, thank you. Dr. J. Rozencwajg, MD, PhD. " The greatest enemy of any science is a closed mind " . Re: Re: bloodroot paste List Owner Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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