Re: Bread, beware of Francis Simun & Deland NOT GF!! - Gluten Home Test Kit Purchase Question

[Guest guest]

Hi Jill, I would appreciate the information as to where the " gluten home

test kit " can be purchased. Thanks, Sam.

Bread, beware of Francis Simun & Deland NOT GF!!

> Hi,

> I meant to post this a long time ago. I was feeding my son supposedly

gluten-free

> bagels, breads, muffins from Francis Simun bakery in Dallas that I had

special

> ordered. I was drawn to them because they use organic flours, and that is

so lacking in

> GF food (which is greatly upsetting to me. I mean, pesticides are really

bad for

> ourselves and our children!) The food looked and tasted so much like

wheat and I

> called repeatedly and was kindly reassured that all that was in the breads

was the

> ingredients listed. But, I spoke to a baker friend of mine who told me it

was impossible

> to achieve the results (very fluffly bagels etc) with just black bean or

rice flour.

> Francis Simun claimed to use sourdough starter, and said this was their

secret. My

> baker friend still said it was not possible.

>

> I ended up buying a gluten home test kit, and all of those products tested

as having

> VERY HIGH gluten...which means it couldn't be a background contamination

issue. A

> friend of mine tested hers and had the same results. A lot of folks in

the autistic

> community were ordering from there. One mom's kid started talking when

she quit

> using the food. I reported them to the FDA but they dropped the ball.

>

> I called ph's in NY a few months ago, and they told me that DeLand's

bread also

> has gluten in it. My friend back east tested her DeLand bread, and said

it tested as

> having very high gluten too.

>

> I trust the ph's people, but told them I wished they'd use organic

flour. They said

> there was no market for it. I wish others felt as passionately as I do

about feeding our

> children organic food. Maybe pesticide-laden food doesn't cause immediate

symptoms

> like gluten or casein does, but as a chemically-sensitive person, I know

the long-term

> and total load consequences are enormous. Anyone interested in organizing

and calling

> GF places and insisting upon GF organic foods/mixes?

> Thanks, Jill

>

>

>

>

> Many frequently asked questions and answers can be found at

<http://forums.autism-rxguidebook.com>

>

[Guest guest]

I just did a yahoo search and got several hits (I'd never heard of

this before):

http://www.tepnel.com/ag_bio_and_food_testing/downloads/wheat%

20gluten%20home%20test.pdf

http://www.elisa-tek.com/gluten_in_your_food.htm

http://www.celiac.com/cgi-bin/webc.cgi/st_prod.html?p_prodid=858

> Hi Jill, I would appreciate the information as to where

the " gluten home

> test kit " can be purchased. Thanks, Sam.

[Guest guest]

Jill- when I was in ph's last week, they were using organic flours. I'm

getting more stuff from them tomorrow and can ask then.

> Hi,

> I meant to post this a long time ago. I was feeding my son supposedly

gluten-free

> bagels, breads, muffins from Francis Simun bakery in Dallas that I had

special

> ordered. I was drawn to them because they use organic flours, and that is

so lacking in

> GF food (which is greatly upsetting to me. I mean, pesticides are really

bad for

> ourselves and our children!) The food looked and tasted so much like

wheat and I

> called repeatedly and was kindly reassured that all that was in the breads

was the

> ingredients listed. But, I spoke to a baker friend of mine who told me it

was impossible

> to achieve the results (very fluffly bagels etc) with just black bean or

rice flour.

> Francis Simun claimed to use sourdough starter, and said this was their

secret. My

> baker friend still said it was not possible.

>

> I ended up buying a gluten home test kit, and all of those products tested

as having

> VERY HIGH gluten...which means it couldn't be a background contamination

issue. A

> friend of mine tested hers and had the same results. A lot of folks in

the autistic

> community were ordering from there. One mom's kid started talking when

she quit

> using the food. I reported them to the FDA but they dropped the ball.

>

> I called ph's in NY a few months ago, and they told me that DeLand's

bread also

> has gluten in it. My friend back east tested her DeLand bread, and said

it tested as

> having very high gluten too.

>

> I trust the ph's people, but told them I wished they'd use organic

flour. They said

> there was no market for it. I wish others felt as passionately as I do

about feeding our

> children organic food. Maybe pesticide-laden food doesn't cause immediate

symptoms

> like gluten or casein does, but as a chemically-sensitive person, I know

the long-term

> and total load consequences are enormous. Anyone interested in organizing

and calling

> GF places and insisting upon GF organic foods/mixes?

> Thanks, Jill

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jill- I just talked to ph. The rice flour is organic. Since I end up

cooking most of what Wm. eats, and most of that is organic, I can live with

this.