Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 Dear all I have been asked by my husband's cousin if I can help her.She is in her late 50s and suffering from advanced ovarian cancer with secondaries. She has lost her hair and is on what she describes as an ECF regime as follows: 1)Epirubicin injected once a week over a period of hours 2)Cisplatin ditto 3)5 F U (?) pumped in continuously at the rate of 150mg/week (they started at 300mg/week but it was too much for her). She goes into hospital all day once a week for 1) and 2). As a result she has got sinusitis for which they have given her a course of antibiotics! She has very bad mouth ulcers, and the palms of her hands and the soles of her feet are deep red and very sore, with the heels and finger tips becoming " chapped / chilblainy " . She is hoping that I can give her something benign and soothing to use externally. She does not live near me and is just too exhausted to go to a herbal practitioner. She wants something external for the sore hands and feet and possibly a mouthwash. I was therefore hoping to get something made up and sent to her. I am thinking in terms of mouthwashes (nice tasting if possible as she is nauseous) and cream. I am up to my eyes in 4th year work and whilst I obviously want to help her I do not feel I have enough experience to do the best thing. Help please - there is someone out there who dispenses and sends direct to the patient I believe? I would of course want to be invoiced for the prescription. Best wishes to everyone Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 my friend roisin would do a postal following a phone consultation, she is in Manchester. Let me know if you want her details, Niamh RE: Rx for cream etc. for patient undergoing chemotherapy Dear all I have been asked by my husband's cousin if I can help her.She is in her late 50s and suffering from advanced ovarian cancer with secondaries. She has lost her hair and is on what she describes as an ECF regime as follows: 1)Epirubicin injected once a week over a period of hours 2)Cisplatin ditto 3)5 F U (?) pumped in continuously at the rate of 150mg/week (they started at 300mg/week but it was too much for her). She goes into hospital all day once a week for 1) and 2). As a result she has got sinusitis for which they have given her a course of antibiotics! She has very bad mouth ulcers, and the palms of her hands and the soles of her feet are deep red and very sore, with the heels and finger tips becoming " chapped / chilblainy " . She is hoping that I can give her something benign and soothing to use externally. She does not live near me and is just too exhausted to go to a herbal practitioner. She wants something external for the sore hands and feet and possibly a mouthwash. I was therefore hoping to get something made up and sent to her. I am thinking in terms of mouthwashes (nice tasting if possible as she is nauseous) and cream. I am up to my eyes in 4th year work and whilst I obviously want to help her I do not feel I have enough experience to do the best thing. Help please - there is someone out there who dispenses and sends direct to the patient I believe? I would of course want to be invoiced for the prescription. Best wishes to everyone Ann List Owner Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2004 Report Share Posted March 5, 2004 > Dear all > > I have been asked by my husband's cousin if I can help her.She is in her > late 50s and suffering from advanced ovarian cancer with secondaries. > She has lost her hair and is on what she describes as an ECF regime as > follows: > > 1)Epirubicin injected once a week over a period of hours > 2)Cisplatin ditto > 3)5 F U (?) pumped in continuously at the rate of 150mg/week > (they started at 300mg/week but it was too much for her). She goes into > hospital all day once a week for 1) and 2). > > As a result she has got sinusitis for which they have given her a course > of antibiotics! She has very bad mouth ulcers, and the palms of her > hands and the soles of her feet are deep red and very sore, with the > heels and finger tips becoming " chapped / chilblainy " . Hand and Foot syndrome. Essential to take high dose B6 ( or P5P), alpha lipoic acid, as well as topical aloe etc. + Co Q10 for heart. Key toxicities for teis regime are cardiac, renal, and neurological, along with mucositis , hand and foot etc. as well of course bone marrow. simple formula 15 ml qid minimum...you cannot go wrong with this, although it could be more elaborate too.... A/A Hawthorn (leaf/flower/berry), Ginkgo Astragalus + renal protection of your choice ( I would use nettle seed). Before during and after treatment. Use calendula succus, licorice and aloe in a swish and swallow for the oral lesions. Prn. Treasure, MNIMH, AHG Medical Herbalist Partners For Health, 525 East Main Street, Ashland, OR 97520 tel fax http://www.partnersforhealth.net mailto:jtreasure@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2004 Report Share Posted March 6, 2004 Yes, I run The Herbal Dispensary and will send you details. nne ==================================================== nne Last BA MNIMH, Consultant Medical Herbalist Tel/Fax: 01600 719497 www.mariannelast.co.uk RE: Rx for cream etc. for patient undergoing chemotherapy Dear all I have been asked by my husband's cousin if I can help her.She is in her late 50s and suffering from advanced ovarian cancer with secondaries. She has lost her hair and is on what she describes as an ECF regime as follows: 1)Epirubicin injected once a week over a period of hours 2)Cisplatin ditto 3)5 F U (?) pumped in continuously at the rate of 150mg/week (they started at 300mg/week but it was too much for her). She goes into hospital all day once a week for 1) and 2). As a result she has got sinusitis for which they have given her a course of antibiotics! She has very bad mouth ulcers, and the palms of her hands and the soles of her feet are deep red and very sore, with the heels and finger tips becoming " chapped / chilblainy " . She is hoping that I can give her something benign and soothing to use externally. She does not live near me and is just too exhausted to go to a herbal practitioner. She wants something external for the sore hands and feet and possibly a mouthwash. I was therefore hoping to get something made up and sent to her. I am thinking in terms of mouthwashes (nice tasting if possible as she is nauseous) and cream. I am up to my eyes in 4th year work and whilst I obviously want to help her I do not feel I have enough experience to do the best thing. Help please - there is someone out there who dispenses and sends direct to the patient I believe? I would of course want to be invoiced for the prescription. Best wishes to everyone Ann List Owner Graham White, MNIMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 14, 2004 Report Share Posted March 14, 2004 > Ann, if this isn¹t too late a response, you could suggest she tries pineapple > juice and/or chunks for the mouth ulcers (the glutamine, and/or bromelain > helps these) and/or make up a mouthwash of Trs Calendula 90% 10mls, Salvia > 20mls , Mentha pip 20mls (+ Echinacea perhaps) and dilute with 100mls water, > or more to taste if nec. Use at least bd, preferably tds. > > I haven¹t come across exactly this skin reaction, but I would see if she could > keep her intake of oily fish, nuts/seeds, olives etc up. As a cream, I¹d > suggest Hypericum and Calendula infused oil cream base with a little clove and > peppermint e.o.s to help with the pain. The FU in her chemo is likely to be > Fluorouracil. > > Best wishes, Laird BScHons DipPhyt MNIMH Medical Herbalist 68 Hurlingham Rd London SW6 3RQ Tel 0 Fax 020 7371 8450 Email alsl@... > <She has very bad mouth ulcers, and the palms of her > hands and the soles of her feet are deep red and very sore, with the > heels and finger tips becoming " chapped / chilblainy " . > > She is hoping that I can give her something benign and soothing to use > externally. She does not live near me and is just too exhausted to go to > a herbal practitioner. > > She wants something external for the sore hands and feet and possibly a > mouthwash. I was therefore hoping to get something made up and sent to > her. I am thinking in terms of mouthwashes (nice tasting if possible as > she is nauseous) and cream.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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