Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 In a message dated 03/29/2000 8:06:07, jb@... writes: << Putting " cures " into the hands of others takes us out of the domain of being in charge...Of being responsible for our power and using it wisely....Of driving the car, so to speak. >> Thanks for saying these things. Joyce (H.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 Dear Mr. Bentley, I am sure that Cliff agrees with you, he just doesn't go into this long explanation repeatedly. It is shorter to say cures or benefits the body etc. as it has in his case. Cliff has found what works for him and praise God for it! If you don't mind, I would like to pick your brain a minute and get your opinion on something.... >The amino acids are Cysteine, Cystine and Methionine and they are the only >amino acids that contain sulphur bonds. Any source of food that contains >ample amounts of them in an undamaged state will do The amino acids named are what makes up MSM. I am wondering if this would not be a better source for a sulphur base than the cottage cheese and easier to tolerate. Maybe could combine it in the powder form with the flax oil and add to frozen bananas and strawberries to make a good tasting shake. But I believe something else would need to be added to provide the benefits of the cottage cheese and that is probiotics.... >Cottage cheese is just a good source for them because the cheese is readly available, can be purchased in a low fat version and is inexpensive. I believe that the cottage cheese is more than just a good source of sulfur, it also contains probiotics that the body needs to combat the cancer. " In a paper entitled, " The Role of Diet in the Causation and Prevention of Cancer, " published in 1989, Barry R. Goldin of Tufts University School of Medicine (Boston), discusses the same subject. Presenting data drawn from six different studies, Goldin shows that fermented dairy products are capable of slowing tumor induction and growth. " This however, is due to the " good " bacteria present and not necessarily the sulfur content. ( Probiotics, Natures Natural Healers by Natasha Trenev, 1998) However , research has shown that to be exceedingly effective, one strain of the lactobacillus stands above the rest, and it is the strain known as L.bulgaricus or LB-51. (I'm wondering here if cottage cheese and yogurt contain this strain?) The Japanese were so impressed with the studies done by a Dr. Bogdanov's on LB-51 that they are funding the construction of what is to be called " The L.B. Center " (stands for Lactobacillus bulgaricus) in Sofia, Bulgaria. The US routinely dismissed this man's findings. So, this is my theory on how and why the flax seed oil and CC work. Any comments on it? I would like to find out what is really making the flax seed oil and CC work , as it obviously does and how to make it taste better or how to eliminate the taste to increase the " compliance " of people taking it. Personally, just the thought of eating CC or yogurt makes me gag! So, if you can make it work better and stronger and eliminate the unpleasentness of it, I think that it would be more widely used and people could " stick " with it. Of course, all this info on probiotics goes much deeper that what I presented here, but for the sake of time, I hit the " high " points. And yes, I do agree with you that any product that can increase oxygen to the cells is also very important and should be applied. However, as we all know environmental factors and diet are two major causes of cancer. And when you have an overworked immune system trying to combat all these toxins on a daily basis, the immune system can be overwhelmed trying to clear all this out. So, really not only is cancer a product of decreased oxygen to the cell (an anaerobic disease) it is also a product of an overly toxic system that has exhausted its fighting power and cells then mutate and multiply. A good portion of our fighting power comes in the form of " good " bacteria that is diminished over time due to a number of factors, and a forever decrease in the quality of the foods we eat (decrease in MSM). Anyone with any thoughts on all this?................................................Belinda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 Cliff , so glad you shared this brief about flaxsedd oil and cottage cheese. At first it all sems so foolish. But after reasing the little book by DrJohanna Budwig it really does make sense. Anyone with cancer that has not sent for her little book on the subject should do so. It only costs about 7.00 from anazon.com. Thanks again Harold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 Hi Cliff, I hear this all the time too. How about this one.... a woman (used to come into a health food store that I worked through) with liver cancer began using all types of alternative therapies...she took up tennis, and became quite good. She lost weight, got rid of her cancer, and became more active. For the first time, she was really LIVING. After getting a clean bill of health from her doctor, he recommended some " preventative " chemo. Against her better judgement, and the urging of her cheering squads and family, she acquiesced. She died less than a month later from the side effects of chemo. Is this murder? Be well, At 12:09 AM 03/29/2000 -0500, you wrote: >HI All, > >This afternoon I had a visitor talking bees. We are beekeepers. > >During the course of the conversation he asked about my health and then he >told me a story that I felt I must share. > >A friend of his had had advanced lung cancer. This man began using flaxseed >oil and cottage cheese and the cancer disappeared to the extent that it was >undetectable on X-Rays. > >At this point the friend quit the flaxseed oil. Some time later, I don't >know how long, the cancer again developed. This man now felt the Flaxseed >oil had not cured him and took another route and died. > >This is the seventh time now that I know of this happening. > >I have read a number of things and there are those on this list more >knowledgeable than I from the research standpoint, but it appears to me that >the flaxseed oil enables the body to handle cancer if given time, and if one >has time, and if it is abandoned the conditions again return that allowed >cancer to develop in the first place and it happens again. This is not like >taking an antibiotic for a sore throat and then quitting the medicine when >the throat feels better. > >It seems to me it is a lifetime proposition. I will mention again that my >Oncologist told me that no doctor believes that cancer is ever really cured; >they just try to stay ahead of it as long as possible. We all may as well >be aware of this fact. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: >1/2377/7/_/378/_/954306669/ > >-- Easily schedule meetings and events using the group calendar! >-- cal?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 Harold, You are SO right. It should be required reading of every health class in high school. Be well, At 06:41 AM 03/29/2000 -0800, you wrote: >Cliff , >so glad you shared this brief about flaxsedd oil >and cottage cheese. At first it all sems so >foolish. But after reasing the little book by >DrJohanna Budwig it really does make sense. >Anyone with cancer that has not sent for her >little book on the subject should do so. It only >costs about 7.00 from anazon.com. Thanks again >Harold > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >eGroups.com Home: cures for cancer/ > - Simplifying group communications > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 >HI All, > >This afternoon I had a visitor talking bees. We are beekeepers. > >During the course of the conversation he asked about my health and then he >told me a story that I felt I must share. > >A friend of his had had advanced lung cancer. This man began using flaxseed >oil and cottage cheese and the cancer disappeared to the extent that it was >undetectable on X-Rays. > >At this point the friend quit the flaxseed oil. Some time later, I don't >know how long, the cancer again developed. This man now felt the Flaxseed >oil had not cured him and took another route and died. > >This is the seventh time now that I know of this happening. > >I have read a number of things and there are those on this list more >knowledgeable than I from the research standpoint, but it appears to me that >the flaxseed oil enables the body to handle cancer if given time, and if one >has time, and if it is abandoned the conditions again return that allowed >cancer to develop in the first place and it happens again. This is not like >taking an antibiotic for a sore throat and then quitting the medicine when >the throat feels better. > >It seems to me it is a lifetime proposition. I will mention again that my >Oncologist told me that no doctor believes that cancer is ever really cured; >they just try to stay ahead of it as long as possible. We all may as well >be aware of this fact. > Greetings Cliff, Just a comment about Flax Oil/Cottage cheese use. The notion that " this " cures or " that " cures or anything else cures is based more in myth and a difficult point of view to let go of. The cause of action with flax oil/cottage cheese is to overcome a difficiency of the essential fatty acids Omega 6 and Omega 3 because they are normally damaged in food processing and exposure to light. The cottage cheese is just a simple way to get relatively undamaged sulphur containing amino acids into the body. The amino acids are Cysteine, Cystine and Methionine and they are the only amino acids that contain sulphur bonds. Any source of food that contains ample amounts of them in an undamaged state will do. Cottage cheese is just a good source for them because the cheese is readly available, can be purchased in a low fat version and is inexpensive. Most of the cells membrane is composed of Omega 3 and 6 and so is the membrane of the nucleus and most of the constituents inside of the nucleus. Raw Omega 3 and 6 are damaged by exposure to light and oxygen. Light is about 1000 times more damaging than oxygen to these two essential fatty acids. It only takes a few minutes to damage the fatty acids from light exposure if they are not protected by relationships with other naturally occuring substances. Unlike some other raw oils, flax oil lacks many of these substances while at the same time being one of the best sources of the fatty acids. The sulphur from the amino acids is utilized by the cells for oxygen transport across the cell membrane. So, the body is utilizing undamaged raw material to repair itself. Cancer grows more easiely in an oxygen difficient and acid environment. Most people are acidic because of to much protein and high acid forming substances such as phosphoric acid in sodas and something as simple as vitamin C in the form of ascorbic acid for example. Any " thing " that is ingested does not " cure " nor is it capable of curing. Only the body is capable of doing the " cure " because it knows what to do with the raw material. The raw material, be it from flax oil, amino acids, MGN-3, IP6 or anything else is used by the body to build, repair or whatever or the body will try to get rid of it. The substance the body uses doesn't know what to do, only the body does. It would be like believing that a hammer or screwdriver knows what to do as compared to the person using them as tools. Overcoming the belief that " cures " come in a bottle or from a " doctor " or anyone else gives our power away and leaves us basically helpless in being the source of our cure. We have most of the power to control what comes into our body and the quality of what we ingest or the lack of it is most determinent in how qualitatively our body functions. Our " beliefs " also play a significant roll in how we experience life. Some people have a " terrible day " , while on the same day others are having a " fantastic day " . The day doesn't care and it is not the day creating our experience of whether it's a good day or a bad day. We do that. And when it comes to other experiences, no matter what they are, we are the sole creators of them. What we experience may be out of our hands, but HOW we experience is totally in our hands and no one elses. The beliefs we hold about cancer have as much of an influence as anthing else in what we do about " having " cancer. Some people lay down and die while others get up and live. Either way is a self fulfilling prophesy. Putting " cures " into the hands of others takes us out of the domain of being in charge...Of being responsible for our power and using it wisely....Of driving the car, so to speak. When cancer or a tumor returns when someone quits taking flax oil and cottege cheese, it's because the body no longer has what it needs to build good cell membrane's and improved oxygen transport. The body is made out of food. More accurately put, it is made out of what we ingest and to the extent we give it substandard raw material from which to build and repair itself and also put in things that are harmful (including harmful beliefs)....guess what? Warm regards, J Bentley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 >Hi Cliff, > >I hear this all the time too. How about this one.... a woman (used to come >into a health food store that I worked through) with liver cancer began >using all types of alternative therapies...she took up tennis, and became >quite good. She lost weight, got rid of her cancer, and became more >active. For the first time, she was really LIVING. After getting a clean >bill of health from her doctor, he recommended some " preventative " chemo. >Against her better judgement, and the urging of her cheering squads and >family, she acquiesced. She died less than a month later from the side >effects of chemo. > >Is this murder? > >Be well, > > > Hi , Just a resonse to your question " Is this murder? No, it's not murder. It's something much worse. Ignorance! Joe Bentley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 >In a message dated 03/29/2000 8:06:07, jb@... writes: > ><< Putting " cures " into the hands of others takes us out of the domain of >being in charge...Of being responsible for our power and using it >wisely....Of driving the car, so to speak. > >> > >Thanks for saying these things. > >Joyce (H.) > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >-- Create a poll/survey for your group! >-- vote?listname=cures for cancer & m=1 Your welcome Joyce. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 dr.wallach and the president said how many die from medical mistakes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 In a message dated 03/29/2000 3:33:44 PM Central Standard Time, jb@... writes: << Dear Mr. Bentley, > I am sure that Cliff agrees with you, he just doesn't go into this long >explanation repeatedly. It is shorter to say cures or benefits the body etc. > as it has in his case. Cliff has found what works for him and praise God >for it! > If you don't mind, I would like to pick your brain a minute and get your >opinion on something.... > >>The amino acids are Cysteine, Cystine and Methionine and they are the only >>amino acids that contain sulphur bonds. Any source of food that contains >>ample amounts of them in an undamaged state will do > >The amino acids named are what makes up MSM. I am wondering if this would >not be a better source for a sulphur base than the cottage cheese and easier >to tolerate. Maybe could combine it in the powder form with the flax oil and >add to frozen bananas and strawberries to make a good tasting shake. But I >believe something else would need to be added to provide the benefits of the >cottage cheese and that is probiotics.... > > >>Cottage cheese is just >a good source for them because the cheese is readly available, can be >purchased in a low fat version and is inexpensive. > >I believe that the cottage cheese is more than just a good source of sulfur, >it also contains probiotics that the body needs to combat the cancer. " In a >paper entitled, " The Role of Diet in the Causation and Prevention of Cancer, " >published in 1989, Barry R. Goldin of Tufts University School of Medicine >(Boston), discusses the same subject. Presenting data drawn from six >different studies, Goldin shows that fermented dairy products are capable of >slowing tumor induction and growth. " This however, is due to the " good " >bacteria present and not necessarily the sulfur content. ( Probiotics, >Natures Natural Healers by Natasha Trenev, 1998) However , research has shown >that to be exceedingly effective, one strain of the lactobacillus stands >above the rest, and it is the strain known as L.bulgaricus or LB-51. (I'm >wondering here if cottage cheese and yogurt contain this strain?) The >Japanese were so impressed with the studies done by a Dr. Bogdanov's on LB-51 >that they are funding the construction of what is to be called " The L.B. >Center " (stands for Lactobacillus bulgaricus) in Sofia, Bulgaria. The US >routinely dismissed this man's findings. > >So, this is my theory on how and why the flax seed oil and CC work. Any >comments on it? I would like to find out what is really making the flax seed >oil and CC work , as it obviously does and how to make it taste better or how >to eliminate the taste to increase the " compliance " of people taking it. >Personally, just the thought of eating CC or yogurt makes me gag! So, if you >can make it work better and stronger and eliminate the unpleasentness of it, >I think that it would be more widely used and people could " stick " with it. >Of course, all this info on probiotics goes much deeper that what I presented >here, but for the sake of time, I hit the " high " points. > >And yes, I do agree with you that any product that can increase oxygen to the >cells is also very important and should be applied. However, as we all know >environmental factors and diet are two major causes of cancer. And when you >have an overworked immune system trying to combat all these toxins on a daily >basis, the immune system can be overwhelmed trying to clear all this out. >So, really not only is cancer a product of decreased oxygen to the cell (an >anaerobic disease) it is also a product of an overly toxic system that has >exhausted its fighting power and cells then mutate and multiply. A good >portion of our fighting power comes in the form of " good " bacteria that is >diminished over time due to a number of factors, and a forever decrease in >the quality of the foods we eat (decrease in MSM). > >Anyone with any thoughts on all >this?................................................Belinda > >Thank you for for your response Belinda. Cottage cheese doesn't contain >any significant bacteria because it is pastaurized and not considered a >probiotic like yogurt. Your wondering what makes the flax oil and cottage >cheese work? It is the cells. They are alive, eat, breathe, " go to the >bathroom " and replicate themselves. They even have their own brain and >chemical processing organs. They are smart and follow principles of >survival. Everything else is just a tool for them use for whatever purpose >they deem useful or it is something to take apart if threatening, get rid >of or ignore if it is not harfmul. >The taste of flax oil and cottage cheese is conditioned upon several >factors. Primarly the freshness and quality of the flax oil and cottage >cheese. I prefer Barleans flax oil and like to add a little Grey Poupon >mustard to the mix. It transforms it into something delicious. >MSM is a direct metabolite of DMSO and about 34% elemental sulfur. I >haven't found any direct documentation that MSM is made up of just the >three sulfur containing amino acids or is partly the amino acids. I will >look into it more closely to satisfy my curiosity. Organisms involved in >the body's probiotic shield don't seem to be involved in the use of the >cells use of the sulfur and the fatty acids found in flax oil. >Referring to your last paragraph about products increasing oxygen to the >cells... The cell has the only say so as to what gets used or not to the >point of the cell being overwhelmed. That's it's business. >I like your questions and your energy. I can feel it. >Warm regards >Joe Bentley Thanks for your response Mr. Bentley. I asked a Probiotic Expert about the sulfur content in yogurt and cottage cheese vs. that contained in MSM. I also inquired as to the probiotic content of each. I am awaiting her reply, just out of curiousity. >>Organisms involved in > the body's probiotic shield don't seem to be involved in the use of the > cells use of the sulfur and the fatty acids found in flax oil. I believe this is true as well, I'm looking at the probiotic content of the CC and/or yogurt as being a side-benefit or extra benefit to the body by providing needed probiotics (if there are any - you bring up a good point - one I'm not sure of myself. I wrote this person who studies probiotics exclusively and asked her this question). I got this idea from something I read in this book, Probiotics - Nature's Internal Healers. This is what it says: " ...Overloaded with work, the immune system needs all the help it can get from your friendly bacteria. How? When disease-causing aliens are able to permeate the intestinal walls and enter the bloodstream, the immune system must spring into action. As long as strong colonies of friendly bacteria line the intestinal tract in full force, these harmful microorganisms will not be able to get through, thus lightening the already heavy workload of the immune system. As you will see, several in vitro and in vivo studies illustrating the ability of the friendly bacteria to boost immune function have been performed. " " Of course, if it turns out the CC has no probiotics in it, I guess that just blew my theory off the face of the earth! Oh well, you don't get any answers if you don't ask any questions! Even if it turns out that their is no benefit to " good " bacteria with this concoction of flax oil and CC, I still think it would be a good idea to supplement the super strains that have shown to give the body a fighting army of good guys in the gut. What do you think? >MSM is a direct metabolite of DMSO and about 34% elemental sulfur. I > haven't found any direct documentation that MSM is made up of just the >three sulfur containing amino acids or is partly the amino acids. I didn't mean to imply that this is strictly what MSM was made up of, it's just when you mentioned the three amino acids my mind said : MSM! The sulfur component of MSM is 34% by weight, making MSM one of the nature's richest sources of sulfur. (The Forgotten Nutrient MSM: On Our Way Back To Health With Sulfur, by Beth M. Ley) So, I'm thinking if MSM is one of the richest sources of sulfur, why not use it with the flax oil. Do you know how much sulfur is in the CC? Do you think that increasing the sulfur, increases the desired effect? Do you think that mixing the MSM with the flax oil would be just as effective as the CC if it doesn't contain any probiotics? If the CC doesn't have the benefits of probiotics , what is the use of using it other than providing the needed sulfur base? Thanks for letting me " pick " your brain.!................................Belinda Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 You were right, cottage cheese does not contain any beneficial bacteria, this is what the girl wrote back: ****************************************************************************** *** Hello Belinda, Thank you for writing. I would suggest you contact Knudsen or another cottage cheese manufacturer for information you want on sulfur but cottage cheese does not contain beneficial bacteria. For information on the amount of beneficial bacteria in yogurt, you need to read the individual labels of different yogurt manufacturers like Yoplait, Knudsen, etc. Regards, Jensen Assistant to Natasha ****************************************************************************** ******* Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 >Dear Mr. Bentley, > I am sure that Cliff agrees with you, he just doesn't go into this long >explanation repeatedly. It is shorter to say cures or benefits the body etc. > as it has in his case. Cliff has found what works for him and praise God >for it! > If you don't mind, I would like to pick your brain a minute and get your >opinion on something.... > >>The amino acids are Cysteine, Cystine and Methionine and they are the only >>amino acids that contain sulphur bonds. Any source of food that contains >>ample amounts of them in an undamaged state will do > >The amino acids named are what makes up MSM. I am wondering if this would >not be a better source for a sulphur base than the cottage cheese and easier >to tolerate. Maybe could combine it in the powder form with the flax oil and >add to frozen bananas and strawberries to make a good tasting shake. But I >believe something else would need to be added to provide the benefits of the >cottage cheese and that is probiotics.... > > >>Cottage cheese is just >a good source for them because the cheese is readly available, can be >purchased in a low fat version and is inexpensive. > >I believe that the cottage cheese is more than just a good source of sulfur, >it also contains probiotics that the body needs to combat the cancer. " In a >paper entitled, " The Role of Diet in the Causation and Prevention of Cancer, " >published in 1989, Barry R. Goldin of Tufts University School of Medicine >(Boston), discusses the same subject. Presenting data drawn from six >different studies, Goldin shows that fermented dairy products are capable of >slowing tumor induction and growth. " This however, is due to the " good " >bacteria present and not necessarily the sulfur content. ( Probiotics, >Natures Natural Healers by Natasha Trenev, 1998) However , research has shown >that to be exceedingly effective, one strain of the lactobacillus stands >above the rest, and it is the strain known as L.bulgaricus or LB-51. (I'm >wondering here if cottage cheese and yogurt contain this strain?) The >Japanese were so impressed with the studies done by a Dr. Bogdanov's on LB-51 >that they are funding the construction of what is to be called " The L.B. >Center " (stands for Lactobacillus bulgaricus) in Sofia, Bulgaria. The US >routinely dismissed this man's findings. > >So, this is my theory on how and why the flax seed oil and CC work. Any >comments on it? I would like to find out what is really making the flax seed >oil and CC work , as it obviously does and how to make it taste better or how >to eliminate the taste to increase the " compliance " of people taking it. >Personally, just the thought of eating CC or yogurt makes me gag! So, if you >can make it work better and stronger and eliminate the unpleasentness of it, >I think that it would be more widely used and people could " stick " with it. >Of course, all this info on probiotics goes much deeper that what I presented >here, but for the sake of time, I hit the " high " points. > >And yes, I do agree with you that any product that can increase oxygen to the >cells is also very important and should be applied. However, as we all know >environmental factors and diet are two major causes of cancer. And when you >have an overworked immune system trying to combat all these toxins on a daily >basis, the immune system can be overwhelmed trying to clear all this out. >So, really not only is cancer a product of decreased oxygen to the cell (an >anaerobic disease) it is also a product of an overly toxic system that has >exhausted its fighting power and cells then mutate and multiply. A good >portion of our fighting power comes in the form of " good " bacteria that is >diminished over time due to a number of factors, and a forever decrease in >the quality of the foods we eat (decrease in MSM). > >Anyone with any thoughts on all >this?................................................Belinda > Thank you for for your response Belinda. Cottage cheese doesn't contain any significant bacteria because it is pastaurized and not considered a probiotic like yogurt. Your wondering what makes the flax oil and cottage cheese work? It is the cells. They are alive, eat, breathe, " go to the bathroom " and replicate themselves. They even have their own brain and chemical processing organs. They are smart and follow principles of survival. Everything else is just a tool for them use for whatever purpose they deem useful or it is something to take apart if threatening, get rid of or ignore if it is not harfmul. The taste of flax oil and cottage cheese is conditioned upon several factors. Primarly the freshness and quality of the flax oil and cottage cheese. I prefer Barleans flax oil and like to add a little Grey Poupon mustard to the mix. It transforms it into something delicious. MSM is a direct metabolite of DMSO and about 34% elemental sulfur. I haven't found any direct documentation that MSM is made up of just the three sulfur containing amino acids or is partly the amino acids. I will look into it more closely to satisfy my curiosity. Organisms involved in the body's probiotic shield don't seem to be involved in the use of the cells use of the sulfur and the fatty acids found in flax oil. Referring to your last paragraph about products increasing oxygen to the cells... The cell has the only say so as to what gets used or not to the point of the cell being overwhelmed. That's it's business. I like your questions and your energy. I can feel it. Warm regards Joe Bentley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 Terri Just go to Amazon.com and look up by auther Dr Johanne Budwig. I lent the book out and forgot the name It sosts about 6.00 and has the words flax seed oil and arthrites on the cover BUY IT Harold Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 Can you tell me how much to take? Flax seed capsules or pills? visit HI All,This afternoon I had a visitor talking bees. We are beekeepers.During the course of the conversation he asked about my health and then hetold me a story that I felt I must share.A friend of his had had advanced lung cancer. This man began using flaxseedoil and cottage cheese and the cancer disappeared to the extent that it wasundetectable on X-Rays.At this point the friend quit the flaxseed oil. Some time later, I don'tknow how long, the cancer again developed. This man now felt the Flaxseedoil had not cured him and took another route and died.This is the seventh time now that I know of this happening.I have read a number of things and there are those on this list moreknowledgeable than I from the research standpoint, but it appears to me thatthe flaxseed oil enables the body to handle cancer if given time, and if onehas time, and if it is abandoned the conditions again return that allowedcancer to develop in the first place and it happens again. This is not liketaking an antibiotic for a sore throat and then quitting the medicine whenthe throat feels better.It seems to me it is a lifetime proposition. I will mention again that myOncologist told me that no doctor believes that cancer is ever really cured;they just try to stay ahead of it as long as possible. We all may as wellbe aware of this fact. Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe eGroups.com Home: cures for cancerwww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 Can you tell me the name of the book? Thanks, Terri Re: visit Cliff ,so glad you shared this brief about flaxsedd oiland cottage cheese. At first it all sems sofoolish. But after reasing the little book byDrJohanna Budwig it really does make sense. Anyone with cancer that has not sent for herlittle book on the subject should do so. It onlycosts about 7.00 from anazon.com. Thanks again Harold Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe eGroups.com Home: cures for cancerwww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2000 MSM does not contain any amino acids. Its chemical formula is (CH3) 2 - S That is, it contains two methyl groups ( CH3) and a sulfur molecule. It helps the body by donating the sulfur and the methyl groups to the tissues just as does DMSO, which only differs by having one oxygen molecule bonded to the sulfur. Randy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 30, 2000 >MSM does not contain any amino acids. Its chemical formula is (CH3) 2 - S >That is, it contains two methyl groups ( CH3) and a sulfur molecule. It >helps the body by donating the sulfur and the methyl groups to the tissues >just as does DMSO, which only differs by having one oxygen molecule bonded to >the sulfur. >Randy > Thank you Randy. Good information! J Bentley Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 30, 2000 Thank you very much. visit HI All, This afternoon I had a visitor talking bees. We are beekeepers. During the course of the conversation he asked about my health and then he told me a story that I felt I must share. A friend of his had had advanced lung cancer. This man began using flaxseed oil and cottage cheese and the cancer disappeared to the extent that it was undetectable on X-Rays. At this point the friend quit the flaxseed oil. Some time later, I don't know how long, the cancer again developed. This man now felt the Flaxseed oil had not cured him and took another route and died. This is the seventh time now that I know of this happening. I have read a number of things and there are those on this list more knowledgeable than I from the research standpoint, but it appears to me that the flaxseed oil enables the body to handle cancer if given time, and if one has time, and if it is abandoned the conditions again return that allowed cancer to develop in the first place and it happens again. This is not like taking an antibiotic for a sore throat and then quitting the medicine when the throat feels better. It seems to me it is a lifetime proposition. I will mention again that my Oncologist told me that no doctor believes that cancer is ever really cured; they just try to stay ahead of it as long as possible. We all may as well be aware of this fact. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- eGroups.com Home: cures for cancer www. - Simplifying group communications ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You have a voice mail message waiting for you at iHello.com: 1/2377/7/_/378/_/954373955/ -- 20 megs of disk space in your group's Document Vault -- docvault/cures for cancer/?m=1 Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe eGroups.com Home: cures for cancerwww. - Simplifying group communications Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 2000 Chemotherapy and radiation: Is it murder or ignorance? Read Dr. Horowitz's book " Healing Codes for the Biological Apocalypse " to help you answer this question. Dr. Horowitz is a medical investigator who graduated from Harvard. http://www.tetrahedron.org/horowitz.htm The co-author of this book cured his wife of cancer in less than a month, a time-frame similar to the 21-day cancer cure by Dr. in her book " The Cure for All Advanced Cancers. " Dr. Rife had an instrument which cured people of cancer, with no harmful effects since it targeted the pathogen (virus/bacteria) causing the cancer. He did it very s-l-o-w-l-y so the body could rid itself of these dead pathogens (otherwise the dead viruses/bacteria can overwhelm the body and cause a toxic overload). When Dr. Rife refused to sell his invention to a doctor at the American Medical Association, the FDA closed the Rife centers and began to persecute him. With Rife's protocol, the cancer usually disappeared in about a month. http://hills.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jinouy01/rife0.html (Dr. uses a cheaper, wide-spectrum instrument called the zapper, as well as colloidal silver, herbs and nutrition to kill parasites.) http://www..ch/disease/protocol.htm On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, J Bentley wrote: > >Hi Cliff, > > > >I hear this all the time too. How about this one.... a woman (used to come > >into a health food store that I worked through) with liver cancer began > >using all types of alternative therapies...she took up tennis, and became > >quite good. She lost weight, got rid of her cancer, and became more > >active. For the first time, she was really LIVING. After getting a clean > >bill of health from her doctor, he recommended some " preventative " chemo. > >Against her better judgement, and the urging of her cheering squads and > >family, she acquiesced. She died less than a month later from the side > >effects of chemo. > > > >Is this murder? > > > >Be well, > > > > > > > > Hi , > > Just a resonse to your question " Is this murder? > > No, it's not murder. It's something much worse. Ignorance! > > > Joe Bentley > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Visit http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net for cancer info or to unsubscribe > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > -- Talk to your group with your own voice! > -- VoiceChatPage?listName=cures for cancer & m=1 > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 2000 I beg to differ with the doctor who believes cancer is not ever really cured. It seems like propaganda to me. It's like saying arthritis is not ever really cured. Or incontinence is not ever really cured. Or allergies are not ever really cured. Or poor memory is not ever really cured. I was cured of these degenerative diseases (over 90%), but I'll get them again if I don't eat right or take designer foods. It's a matter of whether you continue to do what causes the cancer, arthritis, incontinence, allergies, or poor memory. In all cases, these are usually nutrition related. If that doctor did not tell his patients what nutritional supplements to take to prevent cancer or how to change thier diet, then his patients will continue to contract diseases, and he'll continue to believe a lie. But doctors who know about cancer prevention will have patients whose cancer cures are permanent. Think twice. On Wed, 29 Mar 2000, Terri Gehrmann wrote: (snip) > Can you tell me how much to take? Flax seed capsules or pills? > visit > > > HI All, > > This afternoon I had a visitor talking bees. We are beekeepers. > > During the course of the conversation he asked about my health and then he > told me a story that I felt I must share. > > A friend of his had had advanced lung cancer. This man began using flaxseed > oil and cottage cheese and the cancer disappeared to the extent that it was > undetectable on X-Rays. > > At this point the friend quit the flaxseed oil. Some time later, I don't > know how long, the cancer again developed. This man now felt the Flaxseed > oil had not cured him and took another route and died. > > This is the seventh time now that I know of this happening. > > I have read a number of things and there are those on this list more > knowledgeable than I from the research standpoint, but it appears to me that > the flaxseed oil enables the body to handle cancer if given time, and if one > has time, and if it is abandoned the conditions again return that allowed > cancer to develop in the first place and it happens again. This is not like > taking an antibiotic for a sore throat and then quitting the medicine when > the throat feels better. > > It seems to me it is a lifetime proposition. I will mention again that my > Oncologist told me that no doctor believes that cancer is ever really cured; > they just try to stay ahead of it as long as possible. We all may as well > be aware of this fact. > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 8, 2000 and Joe, and everyone else THAT IS reading.. The statement I and Mel agree with..As we have for a number of years, since 1985.. been using Dr.Ethel Starbard's: SPRINGTIME, '' POLARITY PLUS PILLOW', ..WE NOT ONLY POULTERIZE THE UNIMAGINABLE, but use it on food, sores, and yes, while I was removing the Melanoma from my leg...this little pillow a sealed metal-box I have an idea has herbs and magnets in it..to expensive to tare one apart to see..not after we know they had back then cost $100.00 each/ and we have four that she gave to us to use, for our self and for others at the time we were working with that had all sorts of ill's. ( long story ) If anyone understands Chemistry, you will understand how iron shavings work with a horseshoe held closely to it.. North-South, East and West: planet of the North pole and South Pole. I will if the site wants write the data from the journal that Dr.Ethel T.Starbord shared with me. She may not even be living now..but after we moved a number years ago I lost tract of her. She had at this time phoned us a few times and we became Quite enthused with her research that was quiet lengthy. She use to send out news letters to those that bought her SpringLife Polarity Plus Pillow..I've used ours for many things..and after you hear the story behind it then I believe you'll understand why Mel and I will not take double what we know they cost. Also we go now and then to another lady that uses other electrical foot, and yes the " Zapper " . which I also used during the time prior and during, and after the cancer was removed.. We regret that we never had the money to purchase one for our private use..and lately found out another man-after his death, his family members were so skeptical that they dumped four $1,000/machines in the dump. Mel happen to do work in his home and this man use to loan them..if he had known that his family would have been so ignorant, we could have had them before he passed to his eternal rewards. He was an elderly man that had had a pretty good health..but old age was the main reason of his death. Anyway We keep our Polarity Pillow on our bed..Mel has been using it with his recent surgery for shoulder replacement. We also use it when someone gets cut, bruised, or burned. It has many uses and I wished I knew how to explain how it works..But God gave Ethel this wisdom and knowledge to invent, over the fact that one day it didn't spoil food..that had laid around for weeks, and she was getting rain when her neighbors never did get any for days. ( long story ) I'll be glad to post THIS STORY IT WILL BE WORTH the TIME to read.. ( You know " CURIOSITY KILLED THE CAT? " ), and just might be another door to open into the world of cures. _________________________________________________________ (Dr. uses a cheaper, wide-spectrum instrument called the zapper, as well as colloidal silver, herbs and nutrition to kill parasites.) Mel and I haved all these mentioned..and find they are working..and we take the Walnut,wormwood, clove..mixture. Right now were trying to find out if there is any doctor in our area that will do for us the bowel, and colon cleansing.. If any doctor out here on the site, or if anyone knows how to contact one. In Holmes County..Ohio...we will look into them very quickly And we would like a doctor that does reflexology...We live in a remote area; and sometimes going to a larger city is an all day task. We live near, Wooster,Canton, Akron, and Mansfield.(Berlin and Sugarcreek and Ashland that is nearest to us ) \ Sincerely, One of Your Best Friends, Judy and Mel http://www..ch/disease/protocol.htm effects of chemo. Is this murder? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Hi , Just a resonse to your question " Is this murder? No, it's not murder. It's something much worse. Ignorance! Joe Bentley ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 9, 2000 Hi friends, I need your help ! Who has experience with Dr.Hulda s " Syncrometer " ? I like to join a seminar next week, but now I was told by a group with the name " Quackbuster " that the Syncrometer is a " useless tool " !!!! And they call Dr. Hulda s theories on the cause of cancer : bogus,bunk, and embarrassingly silly. I am realy confused now . What is the truth ??? Please send me as much information as possible. Thank you and God bless you all. Achim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2000 In a message dated 04/10/2000 4:48:48 AM Eastern Daylight Time, pelcka@... writes: << Hi friends, I need your help ! Who has experience with Dr.Hulda s " Syncrometer " ? I like to join a seminar next week, but now I was told by a group with the name " Quackbuster " that the Syncrometer is a " useless tool " !!!! And they call Dr. Hulda s theories on the cause of cancer : bogus,bunk, and embarrassingly silly. I am realy confused now . What is the truth ??? Please send me as much information as possible. Thank you and God bless you all. Hello Achim Hey Guy, I tried the Hula method, and it said within 21 days it would STOP the cancer growth. Well, I had a dog that I tried it on, with limpnode cancer, and it never even affected the cancer, So after a month, I changed over to DR method with he's pig enzymes and by that time my dog was to far gone, as she started throwing up every thing I could get down her. Even plain water. The Cancer had wrapped around her throat, choking her, So I had to have her put down, My opinion is not really good on her method. I even bought the zapper and zapped two times aday, no help Regards, Mike B. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 10, 2000 Hi group...Several months ago I underwent Hulda s parasite program for my prostate cancer. I followed all recommendations religiously and accomplished nothing I could see or feel. My PSA was not affected either. Best, JR Hi friends, I need your help ! Who has experience with Dr.Hulda s " Syncrometer " ? I like to join a seminar next week, but now I was told by a group with the name " Quackbuster " that the Syncrometer is a " useless tool " !!!! And they call Dr. Hulda s theories on the cause of cancer : bogus,bunk, and embarrassingly silly. I am realy confused now . What is the truth ??? Please send me as much information as possible. Thank you and God bless you all. Achim ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Save up to 75% on grocery products with FREE Shipping and a 30 Day Money-Back Guarantee at screaminghotdeals.com 1/2718/7/_/378/_/955356478/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get HUGE info at http://cures for cancer.evangelist.net, and post your own links there. Unsubscribe by sending email to cures for cancer-unsubscribeegroups or by visiting http://www.bobhurt.com/subunsub.mv Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
