Re: Antidepressants and thyroid-shrinks

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Hi Hannah, I'm sorry, I didn't want to say your shrink was incompetent

and I had no intention of giving a lecture...I am still struggling to

stay afloat in the panic-anxiety-depression ocean of definitions and I

am not a professional, only a victim..

What I meant to say is that after having been in therapy for many years

because of my emotional-anxious personality I decided to consult also

a psychiatric about my panic attacks. And while my therapist too links

my attacks to anxiety, the psychiatrist I saw told me that no matter

how anxious a person you are, clinically, panic attacks are always a

symptom of depression and have to be treated with anti-depressants. To

explain his theory he told me that a person who suffer from anxiety can

be terribly tense and still be able to drive, take planes, go to

crowded places without suffering from panic. A panic attack, according

to him and to psychiatrics in general, is due to a chemical unbalance

where the serotonine drops dramatically and the body needs a chemical

help to rebuild it.

No, I'm not american, as you can see from my spelling... I live in

Italy and most of the medications you all mention here are totally

unknown to me because they have different names here. I'm still not

convinced I should take anti-depressants..I would like to fix my

thyroid problem first. As you said, it seems the two things go

together. I would like to know how many of us suffers also from our

same problem.

I totally agree with your shrink, btw, about the theory of the " don't

well into the attack " . What I meant with " my " dwelling is just that

along with treating the symptom with any kind of medication we feel

more comfortable with, we need also to go in depth and explore the

reasons that cause us all that anxiety and fear. Sorry if I didn't make

myself clear enough.

Venerdì, 2 gen 2004, alle 14:57 Europe/Rome, Hannah Pasisz ha scritto:

> I am curious about a few of your comments....

>  

> My physiatrist has counseled me that panic attacks such as mine are

> brought on by severe chemical imbalances but always lie beneath the

> surface as I deal with alot of anxiety issues. And even though I have

> never been one to dwell she did council me that dwelling on the panic

> and the feelings it involves only makes the attack worse and that I

> need to get myself to a quiet place as soon as possible and if that's

> not possible deep breathing exercises and Xanex..

>  

> Also she has been counseling me along the lines of anxiety. We delve

> into those sorts of issues during our sessions to deal with my panic.

> I do deal with depression but it has been directly linked to my

> hormone imbalances so when we talk about that it's a venting session

> mostly.

>  

> Do I need to find a new shrink? I was pretty convinced she was on

> track.... Are you not in the US? I have found the treatment and cause

> and effects we learn can be very different across the pond. Also I

> work in PR and Marketing... I wish I had the option of slowing down.

> However it took me 2 years to find this job... the economy in Buffalo

> NY was bad before 9-11... after 9-11 it kind of died.

>  

> And personally I think this is very on topic as many thyroid patients

> deal with depression and panic issues.

>  

> Hannah Pasisz

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> Hannah, no problem with your being " preachy " or projecting. Thank you

> for your answer and your opinion, although I don't think that being on

> antidepressants for years and years could solve the problems we have.

> This is why I'm so careful with them. Yes, I suffer from " true " panic

> attacks and yes, they are very scary and prevent me from doing a lot

> of things I would like to do. Your suggestion " don't dwell " is

> probably wise but also quite far fetched. Panic attacks are usually a

> burden of people who dwell too much and I'm one of the bunch. To tell

> you the truth, even if sometimes the price I pay is a bit high, I

> think that life is not an highway to be travelled at full speed and

> without looking around. I see it as an opportunity to dwell and dig

> and sweat sometimes, in order to understand and, hopefully, to become

> better. Do I sound too preachy now? lol. Sorry. And a big apology to

> all the ladies not interested, sorry for going off topic.

> Just one little remark: panic attacks are known to be a symptom of

> depression and not anxiety.

> Ciao

> Carla

>

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[Guest guest]

I've been coming off lately alot harsher than I want to.... this mother in law I think has be tied in knots....

I have always found it interesting the difference in methods and diagnoses and treatments between here and Europe. I wonder why that is?

When you have panic attacks in the states... you inevitably are prescribed Paxil... and anti-anxiety medication. Go figure. I have been off SSRI's (Paxil Zoloft etc) for over a year... I don't welcome the panic attacks but I do seem to be doing alot better health wise.

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Hi Hannah, I'm sorry, I didn't want to say your shrink was incompetent and I had no intention of giving a lecture...I am still struggling to stay afloat in the panic-anxiety-depression ocean of definitions and I am not a professional, only a victim..:)What I meant to say is that after having been in therapy for many years because of my emotional-anxious personality I decided to consult also a psychiatric about my panic attacks. And while my therapist too links my attacks to anxiety, the psychiatrist I saw told me that no matter how anxious a person you are, clinically, panic attacks are always a symptom of depression and have to be treated with anti-depressants. To explain his theory he told me that a person who suffer from anxiety can be terribly tense and still be able to drive, take planes, go to crowded places without suffering from panic. A panic attack, according to him and to psychiatrics in general, is due to a chemical unbalance where the serotonine drops dramatically and the body needs a chemical help to rebuild it. No, I'm not american, as you can see from my spelling... I live in Italy and most of the medications you all mention here are totally unknown to me because they have different names here. I'm still not convinced I should take anti-depressants..I would like to fix my thyroid problem first. As you said, it seems the two things go together. I would like to know how many of us suffers also from our same problem. I totally agree with your shrink, btw, about the theory of the "don't well into the attack". What I meant with "my" dwelling is just that along with treating the symptom with any kind of medication we feel more comfortable with, we need also to go in depth and explore the reasons that cause us all that anxiety and fear. Sorry if I didn't make myself clear enough.