Guest guest Posted January 4, 2004 Report Share Posted January 4, 2004 I am unaware of any suggestion that milk should be avoided during a meal with meat. The protein in the meat is also a good buffer, like milk. The principle difference is that the proteins in milk are already suspended in the liquid so their effect is more rapid. The digestive system under normal conditions does a good job of secreting the appropriate amounts of enzymes and acids to facilitate digestion. Ted hydrochloric acid>>> Hi,> I just got my first gallon of raw milk. I am very excited. But I have >a> question. When I have heart burn for some reason, which doesn' t happen >too> often, I would drink a glass of milk. It seems to neuralize the acid. I >have> been told that milk coats the stomach not allowing the stomach to >produce> good hydrochloric acid. Does anyone know about this?> Sunnie>> _________________________________________________________________> Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & >Home.> http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx>>> To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at >http://www.midvalleyvu.com>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 It drives my Russian friend crazy when her husband drinks milk with meat as she does not think this is healthy-I do not know why. Also, Jewish people do not mix milk with beef although they consume both. I do not know why this is either. If I have a sandwich for lunch, I usually want a glass of milk with it, but if it's a meat sandwich, I always think of this. For what it's worth. . . Kathy > I am unaware of any suggestion that milk should be avoided during a meal with meat. The protein in the meat is also a good buffer, like milk. The principle difference is that the proteins in milk are already suspended in the liquid so their effect is more rapid. The digestive system under normal conditions does a good job of secreting the appropriate amounts of enzymes and acids to facilitate digestion. > > Ted > hydrochloric acid > > > > > > Hi, > > I just got my first gallon of raw milk. I am very excited. But I have > >a > > question. When I have heart burn for some reason, which doesn' t happen > >too > > often, I would drink a glass of milk. It seems to neuralize the acid. I > >have > > been told that milk coats the stomach not allowing the stomach to > >produce > > good hydrochloric acid. Does anyone know about this? > > Sunnie > > > > ____________________________________________________________ _____ > > Make your home warm and cozy this winter with tips from MSN House & > >Home. > > http://special.msn.com/home/warmhome.armx > > > > > > To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at > >http://www.midvalleyvu.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 Kathy, I have seen actual studies (can't remember where at the moment) that show that phosphorous and phosphoric acid in the meat prevents calcium absorption from the milk and leaches calcium from our bones to digest it. Because of this I NEVER drink milk when I eat beef. As far as the Jewish restriction on it, that is because the Scripture says "Do not boil the kid in it's mother's milk." This came to be understood as not eating milk and meat together from the same animal. Something about it is not healthy. I am sure our Designer knew quite well what was good for us and what was not, and that's why the restriction was placed there. The study I am referring to had a group of people with broken bones. The control group did not drink milk or eat beef. The other groups ate them together. The control group healed much faster. Too much cooked beef has phosphorous and phosphoric acid, which leaches calcium out of your bones, I believe, and also prevents calcium absorption. This is why the control group healed faster. Anyway, for what it's worth. I eat my beef raw, btw, which has a totally different chemical makeup. I am WEIRD, huh? Here is a quote from an article I found recently (and I am SURE they are referring to pasteurized dairy with this): Meat is a high protein product. Animal protein metabolizes in our bodies forming two strong acids, sulfuric and phosphoric. To keep our blood pH slightly alkaline, our bodies need to neutralize (buffer) these acids, and calcium is the best substance our bodies have to do this. And the most plentiful source of calcium is, you guessed it, our bones. Animal protein also contains large amounts of phosphorous, which reacts with calcium to form an insoluble compound, inhibiting calcium absorption. If you eat a diet high in animal protein, it doesn't matter how much calcium you consume, you will still lose bone mass. Dairy products are another factor in bone loss. If milk were really good for our bones, Americans would have some of the strongest bones in the world. Instead, we have some of the weakest! For the same reasons as meat (high protein), the calcium in dairy products causes a negative calcium balance; more calcium is lost than is gained. Additionally, milk is low in magnesium, a needed co-factor for calcium uptake. In other words, if you want to improve your chances of getting osteoporosis, drink plenty of milk. realfoodie2003 wrote: It drives my Russian friend crazy when her husband drinks milk with meat as she does not think this is healthy-I do not know why. Also, Jewish people do not mix milk with beef although they consume both. I do not know why this is either. If I have a sandwich for lunch, I usually want a glass of milk with it, but if it's a meat sandwich, I always think of this. For what it's worth. . . Kathy > I am unaware of any suggestion that milk should be avoided during a meal with meat. The protein in the meat is also a good buffer, like milk. The principle difference is that the proteins in milk are already suspended in the liquid so their effect is more rapid. The digestive system under normal conditions does a good job of secreting the appropriate amounts of enzymes and acids to facilitate digestion. > > Te Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2004 Report Share Posted January 5, 2004 From now on, I will try to only drink milk with my peanut /almond butter and raw honey sandwiches. Please don't anyone tell me that won't work, because it is a simple food taste sensation! , I aspire to be weird like you! Tell me, do you only your meat raw or just sometimes eat it raw? I have a farm source for organic, grass-fed meats- beef, chicken and pork so I feel confident in the meat I am buying. And since I started getting organic, free range eggs, I eat them raw quite frequently. I am not opposed to eating meat rare, I actually prefer it that way, but just can't quite make the leap to eating it raw. I would like to go out and have steak tartar but would be concerned about the source of the meat etc. What do you do in the way of preparation? Any marinating or anything? I do eat raw fish- sashimi about once a week, so I think there is hope for me! Kathy -- In RawDairy , Dady <shawn@s...> wrote: > Kathy, > I have seen actual studies (can't remember where at the moment) that > show that phosphorous and phosphoric acid in the meat prevents calcium > absorption from the milk and leaches calcium from our bones to digest > it. Because of this I NEVER drink milk when I eat beef. As far as the > Jewish restriction on it, that is because the Scripture says " Do not > boil the kid in it's mother's milk. " This came to be understood as not > eating milk and meat together from the same animal. Something about it > is not healthy. I am sure our Designer knew quite well what was good > for us and what was not, and that's why the restriction was placed > there. The study I am referring to had a group of people with broken > bones. The control group did not drink milk or eat beef. The other > groups ate them together. The control group healed much faster. Too > much cooked beef has phosphorous and phosphoric acid, which leaches > calcium out of your bones, I believe, and also prevents calcium > absorption. This is why the control group healed faster. Anyway, for > what it's worth. I eat my beef raw, btw, which has a totally different > chemical makeup. I am WEIRD, huh? > > > Here is a quote from an article I found recently (and I am SURE they are > referring to pasteurized dairy with this): > Meat is a high protein product. Animal protein metabolizes in our bodies > forming two strong acids, sulfuric and phosphoric. To keep our blood pH > slightly alkaline, our bodies need to neutralize (buffer) these acids, > and calcium is the best substance our bodies have to do this. And the > most plentiful source of calcium is, you guessed it, our bones. Animal > protein also contains large amounts of phosphorous, which reacts with > calcium to form an insoluble compound, inhibiting calcium absorption. If > you eat a diet high in animal protein, it doesn't matter how much > calcium you consume, you will still lose bone mass. > Dairy products are another factor in bone loss. If milk were > really good for our bones, Americans would have some of the strongest > bones in the world. Instead, we have some of the weakest! For the same > reasons as meat (high protein), the calcium in dairy products causes a > negative calcium balance; more calcium is lost than is gained. > Additionally, milk is low in magnesium, a needed co-factor for calcium > uptake. In other words, if you want to improve your chances of getting > osteoporosis, drink plenty of milk. > > > > > > realfoodie2003 wrote: > > > It drives my Russian friend crazy when her husband drinks milk with > > meat as > > she does not think this is healthy-I do not know why. Also, Jewish > > people do > > not mix milk with beef although they consume both. I do not know why > > this is > > either. If I have a sandwich for lunch, I usually want a glass of milk > > with it, but if > > it's a meat sandwich, I always think of this. For what it's worth. . . > > > > Kathy > > > > > > > I am unaware of any suggestion that milk should be avoided during a > > meal > > with meat. The protein in the meat is also a good buffer, like milk. > > The > > principle difference is that the proteins in milk are already > > suspended in the > > liquid so their effect is more rapid. The digestive system under normal > > conditions does a good job of secreting the appropriate amounts of > > enzymes > > and acids to facilitate digestion. > > > > > > Te Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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