Re: End of consciousness ? The truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth

[Guest guest]

> As would say " Oh really! " .

>

> My thought is that you are not taking the inquiry deep enough. I have

> no proof that my father hated his father, I also have no proof that

> there are " fathers " or " hate " other than my unexamined story. It's

> all my projection, a made up nightmare. It's a lie because the truth

> is that only love/God is real. If I am seeing anything less than

> love, I am confused, believing a lie in my experience.

>

> Hmmm .... I don't know about you but I really needed to hear that

>

>

> Loving what is ....

Forgive me for being so far behind in reading the posts....

How can you know any of this? All that you have said is only belief. It is a

belief that it's all your projection. It's a belief that only love/God is real.

I've noticed that a lot of people state religious beliefs here with great

certainty.

As a searcher, I am especially sensitive to this kind of thing.

I'm sure I haven't explained myself well.

[Guest guest]

> > As would say " Oh really! " .

> >

> > My thought is that you are not taking the inquiry deep enough. I have

> > no proof that my father hated his father, I also have no proof that

> > there are " fathers " or " hate " other than my unexamined story. It's

> > all my projection, a made up nightmare. It's a lie because the truth

> > is that only love/God is real. If I am seeing anything less than

> > love, I am confused, believing a lie in my experience.

> >

> > Hmmm .... I don't know about you but I really needed to hear that

> >

> >

> > Loving what is ....

>

>

> Forgive me for being so far behind in reading the posts....

>

> How can you know any of this? All that you have said is only belief.

It is a

> belief that it's all your projection. It's a belief that only

love/God is real.

>

> I've noticed that a lot of people state religious beliefs here with

great certainty.

> As a searcher, I am especially sensitive to this kind of thing.

>

> I'm sure I haven't explained myself well.

>

>

Dear ,

You explain yourself very well.

Have you asked yourself these questions? You are the one to ask

because you are the one who has the answers.

I hear that you are a searcher. Whatever you are searching for ~ you

already have and know it, you are it, you are God.

love, nne

[Guest guest]

I agree, explained herself very well.

nne, I agree with you that should ask herself; especially,

since she admitted a " sensitivity " to the statements. :-)

You said " Whatever you are searching for ~ you already have and know

it, you are it, you are God. "

Can you really know " is God " ? Just a thought.

Blessings, Steve D.

> > > As would say " Oh really! " .

> > >

> > > My thought is that you are not taking the inquiry deep enough.

I have

> > > no proof that my father hated his father, I also have no proof

that

> > > there are " fathers " or " hate " other than my unexamined story.

It's

> > > all my projection, a made up nightmare. It's a lie because the

truth

> > > is that only love/God is real. If I am seeing anything less

than

> > > love, I am confused, believing a lie in my experience.

> > >

> > > Hmmm .... I don't know about you but I really needed to hear

that

> > >

> > >

> > > Loving what is ....

> >

> >

> > Forgive me for being so far behind in reading the posts....

> >

> > How can you know any of this? All that you have said is only

belief.

> It is a

> > belief that it's all your projection. It's a belief that only

> love/God is real.

> >

> > I've noticed that a lot of people state religious beliefs here

with

> great certainty.

> > As a searcher, I am especially sensitive to this kind of thing.

> >

> > I'm sure I haven't explained myself well.

> >

> >

>

> Dear ,

>

> You explain yourself very well.

>

> Have you asked yourself these questions? You are the one to ask

> because you are the one who has the answers.

>

> I hear that you are a searcher. Whatever you are searching for ~ you

> already have and know it, you are it, you are God.

>

> love, nne

[Guest guest]

>

> How can you know any of this? All that you have said is only

> belief. It is a belief that it's all your projection. It's a

> belief that only love/God is real.

>

> I've noticed that a lot of people state religious beliefs here

> with great certainty. As a searcher, I am especially sensitive to

> this kind of thing.

>

Ah ... is it not wonderful to be other realized

So all I have is a belief in love and God? That is not my experience.

I KNOW that I am love because it HURTS when I attach to any unloving

thought or action. My nature is love and peace and anything which

contradicts with that is experienced by me as PAINFUL.

Also I have a direct connection with what I would call God/love

through what would call my heart-mind. Where do the answers to

the four questions come from? Is it not a deeper intelligence that

some call God/love?

Now you are right this is all a projection, or as I like to say " a

happy dream " . But as I understand it the happy dream that " God is

everything, God is good. " is all that is required of me. God himself

takes the last step to lift me back into himself, which I really

never left.

Thanks for the dialog because I get to realize once again that

I am love, how could I be anything else!

Loving what is ...

[Guest guest]

> Can you really know " is God " ? Just a thought.

Hi Steve ... love you

The thought that comes up for me is why ask that question at all.

" is God " for me is a joyful and beautiful thought. I don't need

to question my joyful and beautiful thoughts, I only need to bring my

stressful thoughts to inquiry.

*****I find pleasure, joy, in investigating all thought. But that's

just how I'm wired. For me, Inquiry/The Work/Meditation, is not a

methodology for achieving peace but a practice for staying grounded,

even in the midst of stress. When the stress is LOUD enough, nothing

~ absolutely nothing (The Work, prayer, meditation) ~ seems to

dissipate it (at least fast enough to suit me! Hahaha!!!). But

seeing the nature of thought via inquiry does....something....to the

volume of the stress, and while it doesn't necessarily eradicate it,

it allows a certain sense of stability even in the heart of the storm.