Re: neuro for physical issues

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neuro for physical issues> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 05:02:07 -0000>>> Hello,> I'm looking to communicate with people who have> physical/neuro problems, who do neuro feedback either> on their own equipment or by a practitioner. I have> neuro/vestibular issues related to unusual multiple> conditions,> underwent brain surgery, and am much worse post-op. I> have not yet purchased the equipment, only having had> one neuro session, but the sessions are expensive and> I'm wondering if I should take the plunge and learn to> treat myself. I think my condition results from> neuro/nervous system overload.>> Thanks,> Nan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________ > ______________> Have a burning question?> Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.>>>>

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whups - of course, silly me!  andrew She can also get the pendant, BioExplorer, TLC designs and complete supplies package at www.brain-trainer.com!!   Foxx   neuro for physical issues> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2006 05:02:07 -0000>>> Hello,> I'm looking to communicate with people who have> physical/neuro problems, who do neuro feedback either> on their own equipment or by a practitioner. I have> neuro/vestibular issues related to unusual multiple> conditions,> underwent brain surgery, and am much worse post-op. I> have not yet purchased the equipment, only having had> one neuro session, but the sessions are expensive and> I'm wondering if I should take the plunge and learn to> treat myself. I think my condition results from> neuro/nervous system overload.>> Thanks,> Nan>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> __________________________________________________________ > ______________> Have a burning question?> Go to www.Answers.yahoo.com and get answers from real people who know.>>>>

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Hi Nan,

Yes, I took some of Pete's workshops, and then also worked for an

excellent clinician for a couple of years as a neurofeedback

technician. I would recommend Pete's workshops as a great accessible

way to get your head around nfb processes (no pun intended).

Cheers,

> Hi, -

> Sounds like you did your homework. The fact that you

> found some training that worked is great!

>

> Good points on trying different approaches--I'm sure

> I'd know if I did something wrong! Have you ever

> attended any of the workshops for training? I'm

> somewhat of an information person, so might help.

> Also might see if I can hook up with Pete.

>

> Thanks again,

> Nan

>

> --- Hill wrote:

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>> hi Nan,

>>

>> ya, thanks - i ruled out all the other causes, like

>> Meniers, BPPS,

>> etc. - i have a hunch that it's due to some very

>> mild cerebellar

>> damage that doesn't show on an MRI, but that's just

>> a guess. i'm not

>> sure why parietal/temporal training would help that,

>> either (in

>> theory there should be little to no effect directly,

>> so probably some

>> thalamic loop is being affected).

>>

>> the higher frequency i suggested rewarding IS a

>> little bit higher

>> than most people would try at the posterior. but

>> the beauty of nfb

>> is that you can try something and actually see what

>> happens

>>

>> regarding " nuking " yourself - one good thing about

>> nfb is that you

>> generally have to do more than one session to make

>> an effect last.

>> so if you do something that is WAY off, and you end

>> up crawling

>> around the floor for a day or two, just don't repeat

>> that exact

>> protocol (or that length of training) and your brain

>> should swing

>> back to were it was pre-training. if you DO get a

>> good effect, then

>> you can wash, rinse, repeat to get the effect to

>> last.

>>

>> good luck!!

>>

>> cheers,

>> andrew

>>

>>

>>

>>> Hi ,

>>> Thanks for sharing your experience. Vertigo is so

>>> damned tricky. But, from one who knows, thank

>> your

>>> lucky stars it was NOT an acoustic neuroma. I'm

>> sure

>>> you've heard of all the other possible

>>> causes...Meniere's, Benign (don't you love that

>>> word?!) Paroxymal Positional Vertigo--loose

>> crystals

>>> in the ear, viral labyrinthitis, etc. etc.

>>>

>>> I very much appreciate your info on neuro

>> settings.

>>> As a matter of fact, the person who interpreted my

>>> QEEG said to train at T6, 12-15, inhibit at 4-11

>> and

>>> 22-30. There were 3 recommended areas to work,

>> and

>>> this was one.

>>>

>>> Thanks for the support on doing this on my own.

>> I'm

>>> somewhat paranoid, intimidated by the science, and

>>> that I might " nuke " myself or treat areas the

>> wrong

>>> way. recommended a book to read, so

>> will

>>> probably get that to inform myself.

>>>

>>> I think my current practitioner would supervise

>> me,

>>> though he is not the most expert but closest to

>> me.

>>> Many want the money from the treatments, so are

>> not as

>>> inclined. This guy is a good human, and really

>> wants

>>> me to get help.

>>>

>>> Thanks again, your story and info were helpful.

>>> Nan

>>>

>>> --- Hill wrote:

>>>

>>>> Hi Nan,

>>>>

>>>> I have some bouts of vertigo that have been

>> labeled

>>>> idiopathic (no

>>>> known cause) that started off very disabling for

>> the

>>>> first couple of

>>>> months, and now usually remain sub-acute unless I

>>>> get extremely

>>>> overtired, or do things that otherwise affect

>>>> balance (like drinking

>>>> too much alcohol - i tend to not be drunk, but

>>>> stagger around after 2

>>>> drinks). That being said, a few times a year the

>>>> problem just

>>>> resurfaces for some reason.

>>>>

>>>> I've had multiple MRIs, pivot chair tests, etc

>> etc

>>>> etc - nobody could

>>>> tell me why I had this except that it was 'very

>>>> unusual', i.e. not

>>>> due to an acoustic neuroma. I was lucky enough

>> to

>>>> have my problem

>>>> subside on it's own after about 10 weeks, and it

>>>> flares up a few

>>>> times a year. I found that rewarding 13-16hz,

>>>> inhibiting 4-7 (or

>>>> 2-6) and 14-30 at T5-T6 tends to arrest the

>> flare-up

>>>> and dramatically

>>>> stabilize the world when I get this way. Your

>>>> mileage may vary, but

>>>> it's probably worth trying! Have you had a QEEG

>>>> done, or a simpler

>>>> TLC assessment?

>>>>

>>>> In terms of doing it yourself - why not? It's

>> not

>>>> rocket science

>>>> A couple of books and resources like this mailing

>>>> list is really all

>>>> you need, with some good self-observation and

>>>> record-keeping.

>>>>

>>>> If you have a reasonably good computer you can

>> get a

>>>> bundle including

>>>> a Pendant EEG, electrodes, and BioExplorer

>> software

>>>> for around $1200

>>>> from pocket-neurobics.com. If your vertigo is

>>>> anything like mine

>>>> was, even getting out of the house to go get

>> trained

>>>> is a major

>>>> trial. Good record keeping and motivated

>> learning

>>>> on your part will

>>>> probably be worth as much as a professional

>> training

>>>> you - and

>>>> perhaps with faster results since you can train

>>>> every day.

>>>>

>>>> You can probably also find a professional to

>>>> remotely supervise if

>>>> you want, for less than the expensive office

>> visits.

>>>>

>>>> Good luck!

>>>>

>>>> Best,

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> ,

>>>>> You're are right on the money.

>> Constant/disabling

>>>>> dizziness, a sensation of movement in my head at

>>>> all

>>>>> times. Briefly, I got off a cruise, rough scuba

>>>> dive

>>>>> and plane trip and never regained my " land

>> legs. "

>>>>> They found a tumor in inner ear called acoustic

>>>>> neuroma, did surgery, and balance nerve/hearing

>>>> nerves

>>>>> severed and removed in one ear. The brain/body

>> is

>>>>> supposed to compensate for the loss, but mine

>>>> hasn't.

>>>>> An expert in Chicago said I actually have/had

>> two

>>>>> conditions: a rare motion-sickness type of

>>>> syndrome,

>>>>> and now no balance function on right side. The

>>>>> surgery made my condition worse. I have tried

>>>> every

>>>>> type of alternative therapy, with no success.

>>>>>

>>>>> I've done the QEEG, am seeing a practitioner

>> here

>>>> in

>>>>> Bellingham, WA, who doesn't do a lot of neuro

>> but

>>>> is

>>>>> very methodical. I've only had one treatment.

>>>>> Exhausting for me, in large part because I have

>>

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