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Posted

Dear Pat,

Nice piece.

Here is what came to me while reading it:

What about any Turn Arounds?

You said " I need to feel free. "

What about " I don't need to feel free, unless I do. "

Or, what about " I need my thinking to feel free. "

Also, what about doing The Work on " I used to be a lot freer " ?

Blessings, Steve D.

-- In Loving-what-is , ae.dropper@... wrote:

>

> Often it seems that " I used to be a lot freer if not entirely free. "

> These days, that occupy the years after 50 and 60 are so concerned

with

> death, anticipating it, mine, my mother's, my friend's, knowing it

> [death], my father, my close friend, find me feeling the need to

know

> that old freedom because of the contrast between the fear and the

> freedom. I seem to need this freedom desperately. The need for it

keeps

> me forgetting it, forgetting the fact of it. In younger years I did

not

> need it so much so I just enjoyed it.

>

> I need to feel free, is that true? No. What's the reality of it? I

do or

> I don't. I do feel free or I don't feel free depending on the

reality of

> the moment.

> Who would I be without the story " I need to feel free of fear " when

I

> don't feel free of fear? I would be free of the need to feel free of

> fear. I would be someone who is not feeling an unmet need. I would

be

> someone knowing I do not need to feel free at the moment. I would

be free

> at least of the need to feel free. I would not be running after a

book to

> read for inspiration or instruction on how to be free. I may not

run for

> a spoonful of peanutbutter to salve my unfree feeling throat. I may

be

> available to look out the slats in the blinds at the sunshine on

the trim

> on the house across the street and feel the pupils of my eyes open

to its

> brightness..

>

> pat

>

Posted

I especially enjoyed how in-the-moment you are at the end. Nice.

>

> Often it seems that " I used to be a lot freer if not entirely free. "

> These days, that occupy the years after 50 and 60 are so concerned

with

> death, anticipating it, mine, my mother's, my friend's, knowing it

> [death], my father, my close friend, find me feeling the need to

know

> that old freedom because of the contrast between the fear and the

> freedom. I seem to need this freedom desperately. The need for it

keeps

> me forgetting it, forgetting the fact of it. In younger years I did

not

> need it so much so I just enjoyed it.

>

> I need to feel free, is that true? No. What's the reality of it? I

do or

> I don't. I do feel free or I don't feel free depending on the

reality of

> the moment.

> Who would I be without the story " I need to feel free of fear " when

I

> don't feel free of fear? I would be free of the need to feel free of

> fear. I would be someone who is not feeling an unmet need. I would

be

> someone knowing I do not need to feel free at the moment. I would

be free

> at least of the need to feel free. I would not be running after a

book to

> read for inspiration or instruction on how to be free. I may not

run for

> a spoonful of peanutbutter to salve my unfree feeling throat. I may

be

> available to look out the slats in the blinds at the sunshine on

the trim

> on the house across the street and feel the pupils of my eyes open

to its

> brightness..

>

> pat

>

Posted

dear pat., I read a lot.. Ram DAss book Still Here -embracing Aging ,

changing and Dying.. might be a good book for you.

" Getting old isnt easy for a lot of us.... Understanding that we have

something, that we are something, thats unchangeable, beautiful,

completely aware, and that continues no matter what, really helps. "

thats a condensed version of a quote on the cover..

basically his advise is like katie love what is. another

quote..

" IF you have to be dependent , you can learn to be joyfully dependent.

" page 94

Maybe you would like it.

librarian, rh

-- In Loving-what-is , ae.dropper@... wrote:

>

> Often it seems that " I used to be a lot freer if not entirely free. "

> These days, that occupy the years after 50 and 60 are so concerned with

> death, anticipating it, mine, my mother's, my friend's, knowing it

> [death], my father, my close friend, find me feeling the need to know

> that old freedom because of the contrast between the fear and the

> freedom. I seem to need this freedom desperately. The need for it keeps

> me forgetting it, forgetting the fact of it. In younger years I did not

> need it so much so I just enjoyed it.

>

> I need to feel free, is that true? No. What's the reality of it? I do or

> I don't. I do feel free or I don't feel free depending on the reality of

> the moment.

> Who would I be without the story " I need to feel free of fear " when I

> don't feel free of fear? I would be free of the need to feel free of

> fear. I would be someone who is not feeling an unmet need. I would be

> someone knowing I do not need to feel free at the moment. I would be

free

> at least of the need to feel free. I would not be running after a

book to

> read for inspiration or instruction on how to be free. I may not run for

> a spoonful of peanutbutter to salve my unfree feeling throat. I may be

> available to look out the slats in the blinds at the sunshine on the

trim

> on the house across the street and feel the pupils of my eyes open

to its

> brightness..

>

> pat

>

Posted

thanks for this roslyn, i think i'd like to read this. was it in one of the

parlours or newsletters where katie mentions having lunch with ram dass and that

they have discussed doing some event together, possibly in hawaii next

year...what a blast that would be to attend!!

cheers,

catherine

mrcitrus6 wrote:

dear pat., I read a lot.. Ram DAss book Still Here -embracing Aging ,

changing and Dying.. might be a good book for you.

" Getting old isnt easy for a lot of us.... Understanding that we have

something, that we are something, thats unchangeable, beautiful,

completely aware, and that continues no matter what, really helps. "

thats a condensed version of a quote on the cover..

basically his advise is like katie love what is. another

quote..

" IF you have to be dependent , you can learn to be joyfully dependent.

" page 94

Maybe you would like it.

librarian, rh

-- In Loving-what-is , ae.dropper@... wrote:

>

> Often it seems that " I used to be a lot freer if not entirely free. "

> These days, that occupy the years after 50 and 60 are so concerned with

> death, anticipating it, mine, my mother's, my friend's, knowing it

> [death], my father, my close friend, find me feeling the need to know

> that old freedom because of the contrast between the fear and the

> freedom. I seem to need this freedom desperately. The need for it keeps

> me forgetting it, forgetting the fact of it. In younger years I did not

> need it so much so I just enjoyed it.

>

> I need to feel free, is that true? No. What's the reality of it? I do or

> I don't. I do feel free or I don't feel free depending on the reality of

> the moment.

> Who would I be without the story " I need to feel free of fear " when I

> don't feel free of fear? I would be free of the need to feel free of

> fear. I would be someone who is not feeling an unmet need. I would be

> someone knowing I do not need to feel free at the moment. I would be

free

> at least of the need to feel free. I would not be running after a

book to

> read for inspiration or instruction on how to be free. I may not run for

> a spoonful of peanutbutter to salve my unfree feeling throat. I may be

> available to look out the slats in the blinds at the sunshine on the

trim

> on the house across the street and feel the pupils of my eyes open

to its

> brightness..

>

> pat

>

Posted

-dear catherine, i also read katie is going to do an event in

hawaii with ram dass. I havent read the whole book yet. only parts of

it. I thought it might help me as i work with my aging inlaws and also

with my own aging. I wish we could stay young but then i guess that is

not in divine order. Although my father in law is a very young 91.

He just quit bowling this year.

love, roslyn

-- In Loving-what-is ,

wrote:

>

> thanks for this roslyn, i think i'd like to read this. was it in

one of the parlours or newsletters where katie mentions having lunch

with ram dass and that they have discussed doing some event together,

possibly in hawaii next year...what a blast that would be to attend!!

>

> cheers,

> catherine

>

> mrcitrus6 wrote:

> dear pat., I read a lot.. Ram DAss book Still Here -embracing Aging ,

> changing and Dying.. might be a good book for you.

>

> " Getting old isnt easy for a lot of us.... Understanding that we have

> something, that we are something, thats unchangeable, beautiful,

> completely aware, and that continues no matter what, really helps. "

>

> thats a condensed version of a quote on the cover..

>

> basically his advise is like katie love what is. another

> quote..

> " IF you have to be dependent , you can learn to be joyfully dependent.

> " page 94

>

> Maybe you would like it.

> librarian, rh

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> -- In Loving-what-is , ae.dropper@ wrote:

> >

> > Often it seems that " I used to be a lot freer if not entirely free. "

> > These days, that occupy the years after 50 and 60 are so concerned

with

> > death, anticipating it, mine, my mother's, my friend's, knowing it

> > [death], my father, my close friend, find me feeling the need to know

> > that old freedom because of the contrast between the fear and the

> > freedom. I seem to need this freedom desperately. The need for it

keeps

> > me forgetting it, forgetting the fact of it. In younger years I

did not

> > need it so much so I just enjoyed it.

> >

> > I need to feel free, is that true? No. What's the reality of it? I

do or

> > I don't. I do feel free or I don't feel free depending on the

reality of

> > the moment.

> > Who would I be without the story " I need to feel free of fear " when I

> > don't feel free of fear? I would be free of the need to feel free of

> > fear. I would be someone who is not feeling an unmet need. I would be

> > someone knowing I do not need to feel free at the moment. I would be

> free

> > at least of the need to feel free. I would not be running after a

> book to

> > read for inspiration or instruction on how to be free. I may not

run for

> > a spoonful of peanutbutter to salve my unfree feeling throat. I may be

> > available to look out the slats in the blinds at the sunshine on the

> trim

> > on the house across the street and feel the pupils of my eyes open

> to its

> > brightness..

> >

> > pat

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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