Re: Some reflections on pain and suffering - Janet

[Guest guest]

> Hi-

> I find this discussion very interesting because I'm having a bit of

> trouble formulating the stressful statements for doing the work,

> and this may be because these stressful thoughts go unrecognized

> by " me " .

>

Janet if you are having trouble finding the stressful thoughts that

you are trying to shut down with overeating, taking drugs, shopping,

meditating etc. ... etc., then has advised that you do the Work

on your father, mother, brother or another close relation.

You see the stressful concepts we are trying to shut down are applied

across the board to every aspect of our lives. Undo a stressful

concept about your father, and tomorrow you may find that you have no

desire to overeat, because the same concept was being applied in both

circumstances. I love the story tells of how one man was doing

the Work and for no apparent reason he just quit smoking. He said he

didn't want to quit smoking, " smoking quit me " ! Working on something

unrelated to smoking he had undone the stressful concept which he was

trying to shut down with smoking, so there was no need for him to

smoke anymore. Just amazes me how this whole Inquiry thing works

sometimes

Loving what is ...

[Guest guest]

Dear " lovetheworkofbk "

You wrote:

>

> Janet if you are having trouble finding the stressful thoughts that

> you are trying to shut down with overeating, taking drugs,

shopping,

> meditating etc. ... etc., then has advised that you do the

Work

> on your father, mother, brother or another close relation.

>

> You see the stressful concepts we are trying to shut down are

applied

> across the board to every aspect of our lives. Undo a stressful

> concept about your father, and tomorrow you may find that you have

no

> desire to overeat, because the same concept was being applied in

both

> circumstances. I love the story tells of how one man was

doing

> the Work and for no apparent reason he just quit smoking. He said

he

> didn't want to quit smoking, " smoking quit me " ! Working on

something

> unrelated to smoking he had undone the stressful concept which he

was

> trying to shut down with smoking, so there was no need for him to

> smoke anymore. Just amazes me how this whole Inquiry thing works

> sometimes

>

> Loving what is ...

I agree with you

and I want to emphasize another similar point:

One of the

Possible follow-ups:

for question 3 is:

_______________________________________________________

" When you think that thought,

is this when your mind moves to food, alcohol, or… "

_______________________________________________________

From that sub question

I get,

as we all know

that over eating is not the problem

it is the symptom of something else,

caused by a stressful thought (what else is there?)

So,

As you investigate your stressful relationship

with your boss, Father, friend...

Money, self esteem... ext...

maybe, you wouldn't feel the need to over eat,

because there is a good chance that over eating is substitute

to something else.

But,

The start point could be:

Is it true that you should/t eat as much as you do?

Thank you

Tami

[Guest guest]

> As you investigate your stressful relationship

> with your boss, Father, friend...

> Money, self esteem... ext...

>

> maybe, you wouldn't feel the need to over eat,

> because there is a good chance that over eating is substitute

> to something else.

Or maybe one comes to see that eating is nothing but a movement, and

if it is " over-eating " or " under-eating " or " normal-eating " is just

another story.

>

> But,

> The start point could be:

> Is it true that you should/t eat as much as you do?

>

> Thank you

> Tami

[Guest guest]

> > As you investigate your stressful relationship

> > with your boss, Father, friend...

> > Money, self esteem... ext...

> >

> > maybe, you wouldn't feel the need to over eat,

> > because there is a good chance that over eating is substitute

> > to something else.

>

> Or maybe one comes to see that eating is nothing but a movement,

and

> if it is " over-eating " or " under-eating " or " normal-eating " is just

> another story.

Yes,

That is another possibility

You can know how you enter investigation

You don't know how you get affter

All options are open

> >

> > But,

> > The start point could be:

> > Is it true that you should/t eat as much as you do?

> >

> > Thank you

> > Tami

>

>

[Guest guest]

You can know how you enter investigation

You don't know how you get affter

All options are open

*****Is this not true of all life?.....The only way we know how we

get after is through imagination. Wait until we get there, in all

things, then we *know*.