Tami

[Guest guest]

Hi marianne

What you are saying is hard for me to grasp.

I am a women, it is something we can all agree on,

but even that is not a absolute truth?

Because we as human being - gave the definition -women, man,

black, blue, white.

?

So, how can it help me with the work?

I am a women. is it true?

What is the answer?

I find it hard to translare, this conception,

to something grounded, with roots that...

Do you mean what i am trying to ask here?

Tami

> Hi Tami,

>

> I don't know what means....but from my understanding, when I

say

> the sky is blue, their is an understanding or agreement with

others. I

> am a woman is also an agreement because so many people see me as a

woman.

>

> If I ask myself (like as a child) who told me that was a sky? Who

gave

> me the concept of color? Who told me that I was a woman?

>

> With concepts and beliefs I can have a story about the world I live

in.

>

> Without concepts and beliefs I find that my world is much different

> than what I was *told*. I have found that the meaning of things have

> been determined long before I ever was born. Who was the authority

and

> one who named things? I love this idea....

>

> Without the religion of others/ agreement of others I am free to

> explore what the world is for myself.

>

> What does it mean to you?

>

> love, nne

>

>

> > Hi nne

> >

> >

> > Please explain this part:

> >

> > " does give " the sky is blue " and " I am a woman " as examples

for

> > inquiry. " I am sitting on a chair " is your religion.

> > " I am " - is it

> > true? "

> >

> >

> > What did she mean?

> >

> > Tami

[Guest guest]

Dear Tami,

Yes, it sounds painful. And what I get is that you really love him.

And he is not with you now in your heart and mind?

Love, nne

>

> It is painful

> I want him to be with me.

>

> I didn't get complitly

> the is it true part

> on

> things I want

>

> BK wants what she has

> and doesn't want what she dont have

>

> I am not there

>

> Sometimes I want someting I dont have.

>

> I guess that is the stresfull part

>

>

> Tami

[Guest guest]

> Dear Tami,

>

> Yes, it sounds painful. And what I get is that you really love him.

> And he is not with you now in your heart and mind?

> Love, nne

> >

####He is with me

in my heart and mind

but that is sometimes doesnt satisfaing

Like Andy said

I want the meal

not the menu

But,

I can see that thinking that i want something

that I don't have

causes me stress,

So... in a way I dont want it,

but...

I do :-)

at least I am open to the possibility

that in a way I don't want it

Love

Tami

> > It is painful

> > I want him to be with me.

> >

> > I didn't get complitly

> > the is it true part

> > on

> > things I want

> >

> > BK wants what she has

> > and doesn't want what she dont have

> >

> > I am not there

> >

> > Sometimes I want someting I dont have.

> >

> > I guess that is the stresfull part

> >

> >

> > Tami

[Guest guest]

Dear Tami,

I love that you want the meal not just the menu....it is so sweet to

have a partner with me who wants to be with me too. And when someone

leaves, I still cry and miss them too.

love,

nne

>

> ####He is with me

> in my heart and mind

> but that is sometimes doesnt satisfaing

>

> Like Andy said

>

> I want the meal

> not the menu

>

> But,

>

> I can see that thinking that i want something

> that I don't have

> causes me stress,

> So... in a way I dont want it,

> but...

> I do :-)

>

> at least I am open to the possibility

> that in a way I don't want it

>

>

> Love

>

> Tami