Guest guest Posted June 12, 2004 Report Share Posted June 12, 2004 Hi Eddie and all Is there a book that you could recommend for working with depression in a holistic way? I have tried so long to find the story behind my depression and have been frustrated. When I was at the school I cried a couple times and noticed that I felt sooooo much better after crying. It makes me think that I need to find ways to feel my emotions, ways to elicit crying. I am a male and by definition in our society, males have a harder time feeling and crying (yes, this is my story, but true for most men I believe). Whenever I experience the hurt of childhood, it hurts, but it is a much better feeling than the emptiness of depression. What do you think? Whitman > Hi Whitman! > > I have found that " The Work " is a good tool if you want to reframe a > negative situation, learn more about your projections or just look at a > situation from another perspective. > > But there's another element to holistic care and that's listening to the > messages our emotions are trying to tell us. I once had a client who was so > depressed and suicidal, his wife was ready to have him hospitalized. Upon > investigation, it turned out he was a 3rd generation farmer who had just > inherited the family farm and hated farming. > > His emotions were screaming at him, " Get out of the farming business! " When > I explained this to him, his depression dissipated immediately and he no > longer wanted to end his life. He and his wife realized he had to make > life-saving change. He actually became grateful for the depressive message > he was finally able to hear. > > An excellent series of tapes called Energetic Boundaries by Karla Mclaren > offers a more detailed explanation of how emotions tell us when we or > someone else are doing something that is harming our souls. It also teaches > how to detect when a situation is an unhealthy one. > > The hardest part of investigating our emotions is finding the courage to > make the needed changes to bring us back to health. > > > Good Luck, > Eddie > > > >From: " whitman1010 " <whitman1010@y...> > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is > >To: Loving-what-is > >Subject: Working on Depression > >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:55:24 -0000 > > > >Hello all > > > >I've been reading posts on this website for about 6 months and have > >posted some work on depression where I got really great feedback > >from those who have been depressed and have gotten relief through > >the work or other techniques. > > > >Anyone have any breakthroughs or success stories by doing the work > >on depression? > > > >I went to the school in March and did a lot of work on depression > >and have yet to find relief. I even went up to and told her > >that I had been searching--to no avail-- for about 20 years for the > >thought that precedes my depressing feelings, and she just told me > >to keep showing up. Well, I did keep showing up and will keep > >showing up looking for clues. > > > > > >thanks! > >Whitman > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp? cid=3963 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 15, 2004 Report Share Posted June 15, 2004 Thank you Eddie! > > > Hi Whitman! > > > > > > I have found that " The Work " is a good tool if you want to reframe > >a > > > negative situation, learn more about your projections or just look > >at a > > > situation from another perspective. > > > > > > But there's another element to holistic care and that's listening > >to the > > > messages our emotions are trying to tell us. I once had a client > >who was so > > > depressed and suicidal, his wife was ready to have him > >hospitalized. Upon > > > investigation, it turned out he was a 3rd generation farmer who > >had just > > > inherited the family farm and hated farming. > > > > > > His emotions were screaming at him, " Get out of the farming > >business! " When > > > I explained this to him, his depression dissipated immediately and > >he no > > > longer wanted to end his life. He and his wife realized he had to > >make > > > life-saving change. He actually became grateful for the depressive > >message > > > he was finally able to hear. > > > > > > An excellent series of tapes called Energetic Boundaries by Karla > >Mclaren > > > offers a more detailed explanation of how emotions tell us when we > >or > > > someone else are doing something that is harming our souls. It > >also teaches > > > how to detect when a situation is an unhealthy one. > > > > > > The hardest part of investigating our emotions is finding the > >courage to > > > make the needed changes to bring us back to health. > > > > > > > > > Good Luck, > > > Eddie > > > > > > > > > >From: " whitman1010 " <whitman1010@y...> > > > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is > > > >To: Loving-what-is > > > >Subject: Working on Depression > > > >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:55:24 -0000 > > > > > > > >Hello all > > > > > > > >I've been reading posts on this website for about 6 months and > >have > > > >posted some work on depression where I got really great feedback > > > >from those who have been depressed and have gotten relief through > > > >the work or other techniques. > > > > > > > >Anyone have any breakthroughs or success stories by doing the work > > > >on depression? > > > > > > > >I went to the school in March and did a lot of work on depression > > > >and have yet to find relief. I even went up to and told her > > > >that I had been searching--to no avail-- for about 20 years for > >the > > > >thought that precedes my depressing feelings, and she just told me > > > >to keep showing up. Well, I did keep showing up and will keep > > > >showing up looking for clues. > > > > > > > > > > > >thanks! > > > >Whitman > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from > >McAfee® > > > Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp? > >cid=3963 > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Looking to buy a house? Get informed with the Home Buying Guide from MSN > House & Home. http://coldwellbanker.msn.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 > > > > Hi Whitman! > > > > > > > > I have found that " The Work " is a good tool if you want to reframe a > > > > negative situation, learn more about your projections or just look > > > at a > > > > situation from another perspective. > >I see that, too. > > > > > > But there's another element to holistic care and that's listening to > > > the > > > > messages our emotions are trying to tell us. I once had a client who > > > was so > > > > depressed and suicidal, his wife was ready to have him > > > hospitalized. Upon > > > > investigation, it turned out he was a 3rd generation farmer who had > > > just > > > > inherited the family farm and hated farming. > > > > > > > > His emotions were screaming at him, " Get out of the farming > > > business! " When > > > > I explained this to him, his depression dissipated immediately and > > > he no > > > > longer wanted to end his life. He and his wife realized he had to > > > make > > > > life-saving change. He actually became grateful for the depressive > > > message > > > > he was finally able to hear. > > > > > > > > An excellent series of tapes called Energetic Boundaries by Karla > > > Mclaren > > > > offers a more detailed explanation of how emotions tell us when we or > > > > someone else are doing something that is harming our souls. It also > > > teaches > > > > how to detect when a situation is an unhealthy one. > > > > > > > > The hardest part of investigating our emotions is finding the > > > courage to > > > > make the needed changes to bring us back to health. > > > > > > > > Good Luck, > > > > Eddie > >I really like your comments, Eddie, I enjoy reading them and they seem > >to trigger something… And they get me to inquire, too. Thank you for > >being here. > > > > > > >From: " whitman1010 " <whitman1010@y...> > > > > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is > > > > >To: Loving-what-is > > > > >Subject: Working on Depression > > > > >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:55:24 -0000 > > > > > > > > > >Hello all > > > > > > > > > >I've been reading posts on this website for about 6 months and have > > > > >posted some work on depression where I got really great feedback > > > > >from those who have been depressed and have gotten relief through > > > > >the work or other techniques. > > > > > > > > > >Anyone have any breakthroughs or success stories by doing the work > > > > >on depression? > > > > > > > > > >I went to the school in March and did a lot of work on depression > > > > >and have yet to find relief. I even went up to and told her > > > > >that I had been searching--to no avail-- for about 20 years for the > > > > >thought that precedes my depressing feelings, and she just told me > > > > >to keep showing up. Well, I did keep showing up and will keep > > > > >showing up looking for clues. > >Are you *always* depressed? > >You are depressed. Is it really true? Who told you that? Did you ask > >*you*? And if the answer is " yes " , how, specifically, does it look > >like? > > > > > > >thanks! > > > > >Whitman > >Thank *you*! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2004 Report Share Posted June 17, 2004 Hi Thanks for your helpful comments. I appreciate them and you love Whitman > > > Hi Whitman! > > > > > > I have found that " The Work " is a good tool if you want to reframe a > > > negative situation, learn more about your projections or just look > > at a > > > situation from another perspective. > I see that, too. > > > > But there's another element to holistic care and that's listening to > > the > > > messages our emotions are trying to tell us. I once had a client who > > was so > > > depressed and suicidal, his wife was ready to have him > > hospitalized. Upon > > > investigation, it turned out he was a 3rd generation farmer who had > > just > > > inherited the family farm and hated farming. > > > > > > His emotions were screaming at him, " Get out of the farming > > business! " When > > > I explained this to him, his depression dissipated immediately and > > he no > > > longer wanted to end his life. He and his wife realized he had to > > make > > > life-saving change. He actually became grateful for the depressive > > message > > > he was finally able to hear. > > > > > > An excellent series of tapes called Energetic Boundaries by Karla > > Mclaren > > > offers a more detailed explanation of how emotions tell us when we or > > > someone else are doing something that is harming our souls. It also > > teaches > > > how to detect when a situation is an unhealthy one. > > > > > > The hardest part of investigating our emotions is finding the > > courage to > > > make the needed changes to bring us back to health. > > > > > > Good Luck, > > > Eddie > I really like your comments, Eddie, I enjoy reading them and they seem > to trigger something… And they get me to inquire, too. Thank you for > being here. > > > > >From: " whitman1010 " <whitman1010@y...> > > > >Reply-To: Loving-what-is > > > >To: Loving-what-is > > > >Subject: Working on Depression > > > >Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 23:55:24 -0000 > > > > > > > >Hello all > > > > > > > >I've been reading posts on this website for about 6 months and have > > > >posted some work on depression where I got really great feedback > > > >from those who have been depressed and have gotten relief through > > > >the work or other techniques. > > > > > > > >Anyone have any breakthroughs or success stories by doing the work > > > >on depression? > > > > > > > >I went to the school in March and did a lot of work on depression > > > >and have yet to find relief. I even went up to and told her > > > >that I had been searching--to no avail-- for about 20 years for the > > > >thought that precedes my depressing feelings, and she just told me > > > >to keep showing up. Well, I did keep showing up and will keep > > > >showing up looking for clues. > Are you *always* depressed? > You are depressed. Is it really true? Who told you that? Did you ask > *you*? And if the answer is " yes " , how, specifically, does it look > like? > > > > >thanks! > > > >Whitman > Thank *you*! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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