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Hi All,

I'm new to this group and planning to buy a Bullworker asap. Does

this really work? When I was 16 in the 70s I bought a tensolator

(Bullworkers previous name, for those who don't know). Worked out

with it for weight loss and toning for about 6 months and then put it

away. The strength I gained then was incredible. A year later after

a mud football game my buddies and I went to hang out at a jocks

house. They started to work out with weights to demonstrate their

superior strength over us slackers. They were amazed and surprised

when I was able to surpass their best effort.

Never picked it up again though and gave it away. To this day, some

34 years later the strength aquired then is the foundation of my

phyisique today. Now that I'm fat and old , its time to pick it up

again to strengthen my body for the coming years. I also plan to buy

one for each of my nephews. IT WORKS! IT WORKS VERY WELL!

I can't wait to get started. Looking forward to getting to know you

all.

Zoo

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Zoo,that was the best Bullworker story to date...Mark.(Dawk)

Re: Bullworker: Is it Effective, or is it a just

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> Hi All,

> I'm new to this group and planning to buy a Bullworker asap. Does

> this really work? When I was 16 in the 70s I bought a tensolator

> (Bullworkers previous name, for those who don't know). Worked out

> with it for weight loss and toning for about 6 months and then put it

> away. The strength I gained then was incredible. A year later after

> a mud football game my buddies and I went to hang out at a jocks

> house. They started to work out with weights to demonstrate their

> superior strength over us slackers. They were amazed and surprised

> when I was able to surpass their best effort.

> Never picked it up again though and gave it away. To this day, some

> 34 years later the strength aquired then is the foundation of my

> phyisique today. Now that I'm fat and old , its time to pick it up

> again to strengthen my body for the coming years. I also plan to buy

> one for each of my nephews. IT WORKS! IT WORKS VERY WELL!

> I can't wait to get started. Looking forward to getting to know you

> all.

> Zoo

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Not to start anything but let's be realistic- something done for 6 months is just not going to have results that have lasted for 34 years. "Use it or lose it" is how the saying goes.

Dave

Re: Bullworker: Is it Effective, or is it a justGimmick???>>>> Hi All,> I'm new to this group and planning to buy a Bullworker asap. Does> this really work? When I was 16 in the 70s I bought a tensolator> (Bullworkers previous name, for those who don't know). Worked out> with it for weight loss and toning for about 6 months and then put it> away. The strength I gained then was incredible. A year later after> a mud football game my buddies and I went to hang out at a jocks> house. They started to work out with weights to demonstrate their> superior strength over us slackers. They were amazed and surprised> when I was able to surpass their best effort.> Never picked it up again though and gave it away. To this day, some> 34 years later the strength aquired then is the foundation of my> phyisique today. Now that I'm fat and old , its time to pick it up> again to strengthen my body for the coming years. I also plan to buy> one for each of my nephews. IT WORKS! IT WORKS VERY WELL!> I can't wait to get started. Looking forward to getting to know you> all.> Zoo>>>>>>>>>>>

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> My " endorsement " of the Bullworker means about as much as yours for

> the Power Block, ie, nothing. Just like there is research on the

> effetiveness of weight training, there is research on the use of

> isometrics.

No, there is EVIDENCE on the effective of weight training. There is

RESEARCH on the use of isometrics.

> The particular tool, ie Bullworker or Power Block would

> be used to either train with weights or using isometrics.

> Simply put, the Bullwork " can be " effective when used properly. The

> same could be said for Power Blocks, they " can be " effective when

> used properly.

Weight training (ex: PowerBlocks) IS ALWAYS effective when used

properly. As a matter of fact, weight training can be effective when

used improperly, too!

However, there's lots of people (many of them on this list) that will

tell you that the bullworker can be ineffective when used properly.

But I've seen no effective evidence that the Bullworker can be

consistantly effective.

> Is that " rigorous " enough for you?

For bullshit, yes, that's vigourous.

You're attempting to equate weight training and isometrics. History

has clearly shown weight training is effective.

> BTW- I have no need to market the Bullworker. I have one, I have

> Power Blocks and I have a Bowflex.

It sounds like the bullworker is not effective for you?

>

> It is all good.

>

> PS- the burn makes you feel good but has little to do with strength

> acquisition. In fact, you could argue it is counterproductive.

Now you're being evasive.

Look, I really don't want to start anything here, but isn't it silly

trying to equate the proven effectiveness of weight training with a

gimmick like bullworker?

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> No, there is EVIDENCE on the effective of weight training. There is

> RESEARCH on the use of isometrics.

There is research that substantiates that the Bullworker is effective

in a lot of ways, not the least of which is the ability to do exercises

that weights simply cannot do. Put those dumbells behind your back

and squeeze.....

> Look, I really don't want to start anything here, but isn't it silly

> trying to equate the proven effectiveness of weight training with a

> gimmick like bullworker?

A gimmick? Ok, a gimmick like the total gym, or the bowflex, or

soloflex, or bandflex, or anything else that has come along and

given better results in a shorter period of time? A gimmick that

doesn't require a spotter? I'll bet you even hate machine weights

too, and I have a Weider home gym, which I could max out after

working with the bullworker for a few months. So there are strength

gains that either alone won't give.

My best advice. Bullworker, and/or cardio or some fight training,

like Taebo or something similar. You do not have to be big to look good.

and you do not have to be big to be strong. Stronger is better than bigger.

A bullworker, used correctly, will help to make you strong. It has less

joint impact. Less chance of injury.

I keep picturing steel monkeys walking around with buckets of concrete,

telling you to overtrain, how to eat, how to think, who to worship????

If you want to be big like them, that is. And I keep seeing guys in their

40's, gurus of the bodybuilding world, who collapse and die for no

reasons that are ever publicly explained. In wieght training, drug abuse

is more rampant than it is on the street. There are more people doing

steroids than shooting heroin and smoking crack. People are

sacrificing their lives to be big. Yeah, big and strong, but weak

minded when it comes to making the right choices in life.

Stick with your bullworker training and add something cardio. It

could be stepper, or taebo, or any other type of training. Or even

sports, like basketball, or something that keeps you moving. You will

be in much better shape in the long run. Special Forces troops aren't

huge, but no one gives them crap. Martial artists do not look like Arnold,

but they can take care of themselves, and their BMI and blood work

probably look better than anyone else you may know. You will

alsso develop a will of iron, and not be afraid to stand up for your

beliefs. God knows I'm not. Weight training is ok. Adverse effects

if you ever stop. Bullworker? They tell you to take some time off.

You come back better. And do cardio. Max cardio. Forget bulk.

Cardio is where you will really see improvement in everything.

Ask a weightlifter to go jogging. Ask a weightlifter to miss a meal.

Who needs enslavement to iron routines? Cardio ups your metabolism

as well. But your body does less at rest. So it is resting.

Remember, muscle mass means your body has to work harder,

even at rest. Most guys promote the fat burning capabilities. But

only if you keep lifting. Stop, and your gains disappear in a short

time. But that extra weight you packed on doesn't. No wonder

this guy doesn't believe that the bullworker used properly stays

with you. You teach your body something that it doesn't unlearn.

If you want to push weights, go to misc fitness.weights, or something

similar. If you talk that pwerbock crap here, expect to get flamed. And

with good reason.

Stretch.

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Forgive me but this argument is becoming rather purile and silly. As

both a very keen weight trainer of 33 years and a user of the

Bullworker perhaps I can add some sensible comments. Is the

original " poster " merely trying to devalue the effectiveness of the

Bullworker and to what end? To prove what? If you don't like it,

think it's trash, then go elsewhere for your training, it is a free

world and your choice. There is a lot of evidence in support of

weight training, similarly the case for isometrics has been

exhaustively researched. The latter was started during the war to

help bed ridden casualties regain muscle strength and yes, it did

work. It also works for my fellow martial artists who have strength

disproportionate to the size of others, who are just weight

trainers. I use both methods and I find it does add strength, it is

eminently portable and it trains every body part. A bargain in every

way methinks! In addition it can be used for CV work whilst away on

business or pleasure.

The " burn " you allude to is merely the effect of lactic acid

accumulating in the muscles and is normally found in aerobics

training, more as general fatigue in strength training. Overload a

muscle, rest it and it will build. Many weight trainers go for " to

failure " reps on the last one, exactly what a bullworker gives you

by making you push or pull to the limit, such that you can't move it

any more. There are many books available on both methods and I wont

bore you with the titles but I feel a more educated debate on the

subject of both methods would be more helpful to all.

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As I read these emails going back and forth, I think the bottom line

is there are pros and cons to all forms of exercise. Are isometrics

and isotonics gimmicks? I would think that any exercise is better

than no exercise. How many people here really bought a Bullworker

thinking it provided the most effective form of exercise possible bar

none? Even if the Bullworker does not provide the most effective

form of exercise, it is amazingly convenient to use and store, to

carry on travel, and yet allows one to perform an amazing variety of

exercises for muscles that simply could not be reached without

expensive, very focused professional gym equipment. And the thing

lasts forever and still costs only $100. It was so perfectly

conceived, that it almost hasn't changed in 40 years. What other

home exercise device has done that except for free weights? That

makes this machine incredible. We are here, in this club, because it

is an amazing invention and we admire that and hope it will work for

us. We should use this forum to discuss what we find does work and

to compare experiences to use this device successfully. We can be

the ones who determine just what this type of exercise will do for

the human body.

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Lets try to keep this simple. Isotonics and isometrics. Both will

help develop certain phyical qualities, strength, endurance etc.

Power Blocks and Bullworker, both devices that train the body via

isotonics and isometrics (largely by providing resistance).

So, I know from experience that both devices can be used to provide

specific resistance. They both " work " !

In fact, Power Blocks are much more limited in their effectiveness,

since at some point you grow too strong to make much use of them for

further strenght development. You stagnate.

Not an issue with Bullworker.

Sorry but frankly, your grasp of exercise science is primative at

best!

But if you don't like the BW, don't use it.

> >

> > My " endorsement " of the Bullworker means about as much as yours

for

> > the Power Block, ie, nothing. Just like there is research on the

> > effetiveness of weight training, there is research on the use of

> > isometrics.

>

> No, there is EVIDENCE on the effective of weight training. There

is

> RESEARCH on the use of isometrics.

>

>

> > The particular tool, ie Bullworker or Power Block would

> > be used to either train with weights or using isometrics.

>

>

> > Simply put, the Bullwork " can be " effective when used properly.

The

> > same could be said for Power Blocks, they " can be " effective

when

> > used properly.

>

> Weight training (ex: PowerBlocks) IS ALWAYS effective when used

> properly. As a matter of fact, weight training can be effective

when

> used improperly, too!

>

> However, there's lots of people (many of them on this list) that

will

> tell you that the bullworker can be ineffective when used properly.

>

> But I've seen no effective evidence that the Bullworker can be

> consistantly effective.

>

> > Is that " rigorous " enough for you?

>

> For bullshit, yes, that's vigourous.

>

> You're attempting to equate weight training and isometrics.

History

> has clearly shown weight training is effective.

>

> > BTW- I have no need to market the Bullworker. I have one, I have

> > Power Blocks and I have a Bowflex.

>

> It sounds like the bullworker is not effective for you?

>

> >

> > It is all good.

> >

> > PS- the burn makes you feel good but has little to do with

strength

> > acquisition. In fact, you could argue it is counterproductive.

>

> Now you're being evasive.

>

> Look, I really don't want to start anything here, but isn't it

silly

> trying to equate the proven effectiveness of weight training with

a

> gimmick like bullworker?

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