Re: Re: new member & ill after first time

[Guest guest]

Hey ,

Yikes yikes yikes! Wait! First and foremost, your little guy needs to

develop some dairy-loving bacteria in his system. That's probably why

he threw up--his system was not ready. Starting autistic children out

on raw milk and milk kefir is not recommended. Their intestines are

not equipped yet. There is a terrific nutritionist named Donna Gates

at www.bodyecologydiet.com that has a high success rate with curing

autistic children that I want to recommend to you. It is WORTH it to

spend the money for an hour consultation with her. Take a look at her

website. Basically, her premise is that autism is perpetuated/caused

by leaky gut syndrome, common to almost all autistic children. Leaky

gut syndrome is where there are lacerations in the intestinal wall,

caused from a vareity of things, leaking toxins out into the body

cavity and bloodstream, thusly ccontributing to autistic problems in

the brain. The way to heal leaky gut is with introducing beneficial

bacteria into the system. Gluten and casein free diets (gf/cf) are

necessary as well, but the gf/cf diet is not enough. You must also get

the child off of sugar and carbs. And you must add is what is known as

kefir to heal the gut. I say kefir, but not dairy kefir. Donna has

invented something called coconut kefir. It is made from young green

coconuts and it will introduce dairy-loving bacteria into his gut over

time, and THEN he will be able to handle raw dairy. Depending on the

child's system, it can sometimes take up to 6 months to a year of

coconut kefir before they are ready for dairy. She has a whole section

on her website devoted to how to make it, pics and everything. I do

not have an autistic child, but we still drink coconut kefir all the

time just because we love it. It's another fun drink to add to our

regimen. I get my young green coconuts from a latino grocery store in

Nashville (not Wild Oats or Whole Foods as they charge WAY too much.)

And I use my kefir grains to make it. It's a mahvelous thing. If you

absolutely cannot find young green coconuts in your area, I recommend

www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com for some flash pasteurized coconut

packs as well as their kefir starter. Keep the juice somewhere warm

while it's...kefiring...and it will be ready a lot faster than they say

at WFN. If you need help call me at .

Personally, I use kefir grains all the time. I make raw milk kefir and

my little ones love it. We make all sorts of things with it, including

cheese, etc. Our favorite is a grape juice/kefir/cinnamon drink called

"The Butterfly." A good website to learn about kefir is

http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html . If you need it, I

can send you some free kefir grains as well.

Blessings,

D.

mvp19992002 wrote:

Hello, I am a mom of 4, who was vaccine injured. We just

introduced him to raw milk yesterday. He drank alot! He was vomiting

yesterday but did not seem to feel bad. He was still up and about

actually a little more calm than usual. Any thoughts on this being

too much too soon or detoxing? (Healing I pray!!!!)

Anyone try kefir grains?

Thank you.

Stutz

Indianapolis, IN

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[Guest guest]

Hey ,

I would be happy to send you some grains. Contact me off-list and we

can swap addresses and such. Overnight is best for the grains, and

that is pretty expensive. Not too bad, though. Depends on where you

live and it can be sent standard overnight or priority overnight. Talk

to you soon.

mvp19992002 wrote:

I am sorry , I didn't mean to scare you. We have been on many

treatments the past 2 1/2 years... GFCF, SCD, Yeast Free, many

supplements etc. No major improvements yet. is basically a

carbohydrate addict. He hardly eat anything (obsesses on Rice Milk-

not good. We have had him on a few essential supplements

(probiotics, colostrum, cod liver oil) that Donna Gates is talking

about for about a year now...but I will look into her diet further.

Thank you for your reply and advice. PS>.. he is doing really

good today..?? Could we get some of your kefir grains? That would be

wonderful.

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> > Hello, I am a mom of 4, who was vaccine injured. We

just

> > introduced him to raw milk yesterday. He drank alot! He was

vomiting

> > yesterday but did not seem to feel bad. He was still up and

about

> > actually a little more calm than usual. Any thoughts on this

being

> > too much too soon or detoxing? (Healing I pray!!!!)

> >

> > Anyone try kefir grains?

> >

> > Thank you.

> >

> > Stutz

> > Indianapolis, IN

> >

> >

> >

> > To learn more about Raw Dairy, visit our home pages at

> > http://www.midvalleyvu.com

> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Hey Jill,

The coconut kefir is only slightly sweet and also slightly bubbly.

Reminds me of champagne. AND you can scoop out the soft coconut meat

and ferment it to make pudding as well. Bonus. The trickiest part is

knowing when you have opened up one that is too old, as the water is

not yellowish, but slightly pink. The meat inside of a rotten one will

also be too slimy and soft, kind of clear. All you need to open them

up is a soft mallet hammer and a meat cleaver. You'll see what I mean

when you look at the www.bodyecologydiet.com website. And I could help

you if you need any guidance. It's always good to talk to someone

who's actually done it before.

jill1313 wrote:

, I think I may have the same problem, as though the raw

colostrum (cow) had some properties that I *knew* were great for me,

my digestive system could not handle it. Is the green coconut sweet?

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I went on the Dom's site and read some of it (it is huge) but still have a question. You say you are using kefir grains all the time, but, if I get the grains somewhere do I HAVE to use it all the time? How can I keep them alive if I want to make a break say for a month? Will the grains die?

I'm hopelessly green about this kefir making adventure

I'm a new member but I did introduce myself after joining.

Barbara

Personally, I use kefir grains all the time. I make raw milk kefir and my little ones love it. We make all sorts of things with it, including cheese, etc. Our favorite is a grape juice/kefir/cinnamon drink called "The Butterfly." A good website to learn about kefir is http://users.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html . If you need it, I can send you some free kefir grains as well.Blessings, D.