Re: Dying for Disney (DAW)

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

" And Tim, could you please explain this again "

Here goes. I'll speak from my own experience. It's possible to

withdraw awareness from the physical body and emotions, and live in

the head as a disembodied intellect! If this withdrawal is complete

enough, this actually feels very calm and peaceful. However, there

will be lots of very tense muscles, holding intense, overwhelming

emotion. To accept that pain and love it may not be easy or pleasant.

Inquiry can and is used to invalidate feeling as " just a story, can

you really know it's true? " So the mind feels peaceful, but the body

is still tense and the emotions remain outside of awareness.

It's also possible to go beyond, transcend, the normal human

experience, and become aware of oneself as a consciousness which

contains within it a body, emotions and mind, and know that one is

much more than that. Doing inquiry from that place is very different

from merely parroting the questions. Myself, I don't believe it's

necessary to verbalise the questions when in that trance-endent

space, observing the part of oneself that still believes the story of

existence with love and compassion is enough.

All parts are ultimately doing their best to find happiness the best

way they know how, even the intellect, bless it!

I haven't sat in peace with Eckhart Tolle for years, hopefully he

still helps allow that wonderful sense of stillness to give you a

taste, otherwise you can't really know what I'm referring to.

Is this any clearer? A wiser man than I wouldn't even try to

explain, cheers, Tim

[Guest guest]

Olli 26 wrote:

> Dear whoeverreadsthis,

>

> Jan, could you please go more into detail here:

> > Jan - When was in Sarasota and I spoke about using the work for

> > denial - she could not cut me off quick enough and skillfully move the

> > work in the direction she desired. I found that interesting. She did

> > the same thing in New York.

>

> Loving reflections these days,

>

was only in Sarasota to give a 3 hour talk. I started to ask

her a question about using the work to stay in denial. She took me

back to simply doing the work and did not appear to wish to directly

deal with my question about denial. In New York she went from my

confusion about the possibility of using the work to stay in untruth

as a demonstration of how tricky the mind is - without ever really

answering the question.

I think Tim has a quote for the work in this area that is extremely

good. It has something to do with if you do the work intellectually

you're not doing the work - that is REALLY paraphrased, but he has the

actual quote.

Hope this helps...or if not doesn't leave you confused...Jan

[Guest guest]

" jan " <scarlett_jt@y...> wrote:

> was only in Sarasota to give a 3 hour talk. I started to ask

> her a question about using the work to stay in denial. She took me

> back to simply doing the work and did not appear to wish to directly

> deal with my question about denial. In New York she went from my

> confusion about the possibility of using the work to stay in untruth

> as a demonstration of how tricky the mind is - without ever really

> answering the question.

>

Hi Jan,

Could it be that you didn't literally ask the question, but put it in

the form of a statement (in which your question was implicit), such

as e.g.: " I'm afraid the work can be used to stay in denial " .

Given the way hears and responds literally, it could be that

only a clear question, something like: " Do you think the work could

be used to stay in denial? " would prompt to answer the question

that might have been implicit in your previous attempts?

Love,

Eva

[Guest guest]

> >

> Hi Jan,

>

> Could it be that you didn't literally ask the question, but put it in

> the form of a statement (in which your question was implicit), such

> as e.g.: " I'm afraid the work can be used to stay in denial " .

>

> Given the way hears and responds literally, it could be that

> only a clear question, something like: " Do you think the work could

> be used to stay in denial? " would prompt to answer the question

> that might have been implicit in your previous attempts?

>

> Love,

> Eva

Could be, but my story is that she's selling a product and doesn't

wish to waste time on possible negatives. Which is fine - that quote

from Tim does sum it up nicely - it's just not used often enough...

Blessings - Jan