Re: This whole isokinator vs bullworker vs steel bow thing

[Guest guest]

Lets keep this in mind:

There is tons of research on the efficacy of isometric exercise, over

50 years of it.

There is no research that I am aware that even addresses " isomotion " ,

so if you are ascribing benefits to it, simply be aware that these

are subjective at best. It doesn't mean that this form of exercise

is not effective, it justs that we have no external data on HOW

effective it is and why.

And as clearly stated by , isomotion is NOT isokinetic, so

you can't go there.

Specific to muscle pump, there are TONS of ways to get that,

bodyweight exercises being one FREE way to do so.

Back to the Isokinator, still looks like a very expensive piece of

rubber cord to me.

BTW-One can get a hell of a pump using rubber cords.

--

- In bullworkerclub , " perpetualdreaming "

wrote:

>

> Being an owner of all 3 products, its kind of sad to see that a war

is

> brewing up. All 3 are excellent in their own right and it just

depends

> on what the user wants.

>

> I'd say an X5 is great for isometrics; the Isokintor great for

> isomotion/kinetic; and the Steel Bow is a combination of both.

Neither

> is overall better than the other objectively - it just depends on

what

> the user wants to achieve.

>

> If you want just isometrics and want to give some serious strength

> pushs with lots of variations and not bothered by size, then X5

suits.

>

> If you want muscle pump, something that can be carried in your back

> pocket, the isokinator may be your thing.

>

> If you want a bit of both with the added fun of some he-man power

> spring tension, then Steel Bow is right up your street.

>

> At this moment in time, the isokinator is flavor of the month for

me.

> Who knows, maybe next month I will go isometric again to work

through

> some plateaus or variation.

>

> So, when someone draws a comparison between the 3 it should not be

> taken too objectively because there is a lot of personal preference

> involved in the reality of all of this. Horses for courses.

>

[Guest guest]

A rubber chord where you can set the tension and maintain it

throughout the exercise? A rubber chord where you can measure the

increase in tension as you progress?

Like another poster pointed out to you, unless you have 100's of

rubber chords to carry around with you then you may have a point. But

lets try to stay in touch with reality and practicality here.

Yes, the isokinator, for me, is not exactly cheap but I am prepared to

pay the price based on the early returns I have noticed. I hold the

same view about the X5.

> >

> > Being an owner of all 3 products, its kind of sad to see that a war

> is

> > brewing up. All 3 are excellent in their own right and it just

> depends

> > on what the user wants.

> >

> > I'd say an X5 is great for isometrics; the Isokintor great for

> > isomotion/kinetic; and the Steel Bow is a combination of both.

> Neither

> > is overall better than the other objectively - it just depends on

> what

> > the user wants to achieve.

> >

> > If you want just isometrics and want to give some serious strength

> > pushs with lots of variations and not bothered by size, then X5

> suits.

> >

> > If you want muscle pump, something that can be carried in your back

> > pocket, the isokinator may be your thing.

> >

> > If you want a bit of both with the added fun of some he-man power

> > spring tension, then Steel Bow is right up your street.

> >

> > At this moment in time, the isokinator is flavor of the month for

> me.

> > Who knows, maybe next month I will go isometric again to work

> through

> > some plateaus or variation.

> >

> > So, when someone draws a comparison between the 3 it should not be

> > taken too objectively because there is a lot of personal preference

> > involved in the reality of all of this. Horses for courses.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I guess I don't understand the value of this type of " exercise. "

Tell me now this is better than simply pulling on the BW to your max

or near it and holding an isometric contraction.

If I understand the way this unit is supposed to be used, you pull it

out to wherever, they you move your limbs through a range of motion.

How is it that this does anything more than what an isometric

contraction can do?

To wit, I hold my arms straight out in front of me. I pull this

device apart to the sides. Now I am working my side delts. They I

move the device to the side, allowing the delts to move but holding

the contraction?

Help me see the point here?

> > >

> > > Being an owner of all 3 products, its kind of sad to see that a

war

> > is

> > > brewing up. All 3 are excellent in their own right and it just

> > depends

> > > on what the user wants.

> > >

> > > I'd say an X5 is great for isometrics; the Isokintor great for

> > > isomotion/kinetic; and the Steel Bow is a combination of both.

> > Neither

> > > is overall better than the other objectively - it just depends

on

> > what

> > > the user wants to achieve.

> > >

> > > If you want just isometrics and want to give some serious

strength

> > > pushs with lots of variations and not bothered by size, then X5

> > suits.

> > >

> > > If you want muscle pump, something that can be carried in your

back

> > > pocket, the isokinator may be your thing.

> > >

> > > If you want a bit of both with the added fun of some he-man

power

> > > spring tension, then Steel Bow is right up your street.

> > >

> > > At this moment in time, the isokinator is flavor of the month

for

> > me.

> > > Who knows, maybe next month I will go isometric again to work

> > through

> > > some plateaus or variation.

> > >

> > > So, when someone draws a comparison between the 3 it should not

be

> > > taken too objectively because there is a lot of personal

preference

> > > involved in the reality of all of this. Horses for courses.

> > >

> >

>