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Hi Tobi

Actually they should ask you if it is OKAY to use a student nurse. Yes of

course you can say no. You can refuse any personnel in the hospital at any

time. You can request that the anesthatist start your IV. Also if your IV

hurts it should be taken out immediately. Don't let them fiddle with it just

tell them that you know that if an IV hurts it isn't any good. You are a

customer not a prisoner when you are in a hospital.

Kaylene

>Speaking of which, Can you refuse to have a student work on you? Last

>surgery I had a student anesthesia nurse started my IV poorly. You can

>still see the damage from the IV 2 years later. I don't want to be

>rude and everybody does have to lear on somebody. Just that I don't

>like being in the OR and having the doctor say, " why isn't this IV

>dripping properly? " The catheter was against a valve in the vein.

>they made me position my arm so the IV could run which meant that I

>couldn't move that arm. I would rather not repeat that process.

>

>I hope everyone is having as pain free a day as possible.

>

>Tobi

>

>

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Tobi:

This is very true. Your vein can blow and the fluid isn't going in the vein

anymore. I think it is called infiltrate when the vein blows while you have

the IV in. Mine has done that once and so has my daughter's IV when she was

small. They had to change sides because her arm was too puffy to risk

another IV in the same arm.

Kathleen is so right when she says if it hurts it isn't any good. I'm sure

Kathleen has had enough of them to know. I know I certainly have. The only

time an IV will or should hurt is if they to a IV push of Rocefin (unsure of

the spelling. i've been out of the MT field too long). Rocefin is always

injected with a pain killer of sorts mixed with it for that very reason. It

is a very painful but beneficial antibiotic which isn't used often but in

dire causes it is used. My little one had a terrible UTI and sinus

infection when she was only about 2 years old. I went with the injection

rather than the IV with the IV push because I knew she would never sit still

for an IV. She got one shot each of the Rocefen in each hip/thigh area then

had to go back the next day for two more shots of the same medicine. She

was so pitiful at home. Her little legs were too sore to go after a toy but

we had to get her up and moving because of the medication.

Sam

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Don't let them fiddle with it just tell them that you know that if an IV

hurts it isn't any good. You are a

customer not a prisoner when you are in a hospital.

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Infiltrate is right. I was on IVs for half of my pregnancy. I had it

happen once or twice during that time. It was such fun.

They always look at me like I couldn't possibly know what I was talking

about when I complain about an IV. I was really mad that time. I'm

going to warn my ortho that I'm going to be really cranky if they goof

up my IV again. He's good about looking out for me. THe best IVs I've

had put in were when they didn't get it started before hand and the

anesthesiologist put it in himself.

Hopefully, my veins will hold still and I will get the IV started on

the first try this time. My surgery is set for the 18th and barring

anything going wrong it'll get done then. I hope it will fix my knee

for at least awhile.

Tobi

> This is very true.  Your vein can blow and the fluid isn't going in

> the vein

> anymore.  I think it is called infiltrate when the vein blows while

> you have

> the IV in. 

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Hi group,

There are many teaching hospitals across the country. When you are admitted

to these hospitals there are many papers to sign and normally

(at least it used to be this way) you sign a paper to allow the teaching

staff to see you. At that time you can refuse. There are also some of these

teaching hospitals that will not let you refuse! They claim when you enter into

their hospital you are basically signing yourself over to them! I've been in

both types of hospitals over the years. Check out your hospitals protocol

before you are admitted.

Kathleen in Calif.

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Thank you so much for verifying that. I have been out of the MT world for

so long and my memory isn't what it used to be. Lupus has really ruined

that for me. My oldest daughter had an IV infiltrate one time when she was

in the hospital. The nurse was great though and caught it early. I had put

on her records that there was a family history of bad veins on my side of

the family. After getting blood draws and IVs ran, we all look like someone

has beaten us to death on our arms. <grin> From the bruising of course.

Sam

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