Guest guest Posted May 1, 2004 Report Share Posted May 1, 2004 Dear Jan, > Dear Family, > > Me and my boyfriend have big moneyproblems right now and what I think > now, before inquiry, is that I have really tried to solve it and he > hasn´t. > > >>>So ...these questions occurred to me... > You have a boyfriend...Is it true? Yes, it´s a story that makes me feel good, I hold on to that one. > By your post, this appears to be a problem that you feel he hasn't > sufficiently addressed. So is he a boyfriend or is he a man-child > willing to prostitute his beautiful self not to face up to life? A boyfriend. Are > you willing to be an emotional pimp? No,I´m not. I don´t feel like one, so no I´m not. > > You've tried to solve the problem - is that true? Yes it´s true. But there is more I can do. Who has the money > problems again? I have. Solving the problem is simple - no money - go find > another place to live. Done! > I don´t understand this. Who should find another place to live? > So what is the real issue? I don´t know yet. I'm afraid that if I don't solve my > boyfriend's problems that he will leave and I will be alone.... No, I´m more afraid of that I am going to leave him than the opposite. I don´t feel alone now. But i didn´t feel alone when I wasn´t living with him either. No, I´m not afraid of being alone. I am not really sure of what you mean by being alone though. > > I'm afraid that if I don't solve my boyfriend's problems that no one > will ever love me again...(as if anyone ever did) My story is that a lot of people has loved me and loves me. And that I love a lot of people. It feels nice. Don´t want let that one go either=). No, I am not afraid of that. > > My boyfriend is only okay if he pays his own way - This could be true! > If it is - GO WITH IT! Feel what is true for you and love yourself > enough to go with it. Yes, I can do that I think, if I discover that that is true. It could be true, I don´t know right now. > > What is the real story you are telling yourself? I don´t know, nothing comes up right now, except that I was angry at my boyfriend for not being responsible enough about our economy. > > > > So am I God, > > can I deside what is " enough " ? No I can´t. > > (Do you have a story about what God is like? God is a pedophile, a > rapist, a soldier, God shows up in your life any way you need IT to > show up so that you can suffer enough to want out of your addictions > -looking for the Savior outside yourself - and be true to YOURSELF!) Yes I have a story about God. Pretty similar to the one you described here. > > This appears to be using the work to beat yourself up. I don´t understand this. The work for > me is about finding MY truth. If you don't wish to support you AND > him - don't! If you decide to support you AND him - quit whining. And that is of cource what I am going to do. Either I will support him or I wont. And what ever I will end up doing I will know that that is exactly what I want. What you wrote here made me realise that I don´t have to decide anything - either I will or I wont. I can see why you think of it as whining. I think so too sometimes. > > The work for me is about loving yourself so much that you do what is > kind to you. IF being kind to another means that I must abuse myself, > oops wrong turn. I realize that in the past I have lied to myself > about men and thought that if I solved THEIR problems THAT was loving. > How peaceful and loving is that? No, not loving at all. > > He is selfish. I am selfish in that I do not wish to give him my > money and I am okay with that. We are both selfish! I get that. > > In your story, it appears that God has no money - so your question is > to ask yourself what to do - and that what to do is all about loving > you - the focus is ALWAYS on you! My experiance is that it´s not working to ask myself what to do when I don´t know. God will make that decision for me. Sometimes God has no money and sometimes God does. > > Best of luck and many blessings - Jan Thank you Jan, best of luck to you too! Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Dear Jan, I am so glad that you wrote to me! So many questions come to me. I just have to look at them, they make me so curious. I have a boyfriend - is that true? What is a boyfriend? When I tried to answer it I found that it was really hard. I have a story about it. What if the story isn´t true? No, I don´t have a boyfriend, could that be as true? Yes I believe it could. None of the stories upsets me. Having a boyfriend - fine. Not having one - fine. Next story is that there is a man living in the same apartment as me. Is that true? That seems to be reality. And what does it mean to me that he is living the same apartment as me? Well, a while back ago I thought it ment: I have to take care of him. Take care of him - good. Not take care of him - good. All there is is a man living in the same apartment as me. Either I take care of him or I don´t. The rest is stories. Taking care of him or not doesn´t mean anything - UNTIL I attach a story to it. There has never been another person who loved me. Is it true? What is love? A story. It could be absolutely true that no one ever have told them self a story about loving me. Do I care about other´s stories? No, not really. All that really matters to me is the stories I tell myself. My story was that some people loved me and some people not. No one loves me - everbody loves me. The opposites it seems to be. Just two stories. And none of them truer than the other. In wich way can I get hurt believing the story that no one loves me? Not in any way. UNLESS there isn´t another story attached to the first, which could be: ...and that makes me worthless, or: ...and that means my life is terrible. As soon as I start believing those stories I feel stress. In which way could the story everybody loves me make me feel good, happy, peacefull? Not in anyway UNLESS there isn´t another story attached to the first one. That story could be: ...and that makes me a very happy person, or:...and that means life is great. Believing that story make me feel good about myself. So which story do I prefer to believe? This wasn´t a tough choise. I prefer the happy story, definetly. Everybody loves me - wonderful! There is always love in my life - wondeful! I love every moment because there is love in it. I love every moment there has been in my life because there has always been love in it. When I was raped it was a perfect, loving moment and my suffering came from the thought that something was wrong and someone could hurt me. I just didn´t know that is was my thougts, my story of the moments just passing by that was hurting me. And if I suffer from doing the work I know that is perfect. Everything is love. Everything is perfect, also the times in the past and the times in the future when I couldnt see it or may wont be able to see it, because my mind was/will be telling me lies. Back to the money problem. It is no longer a problem for me. I will have money - fine. I wont have any money - fine. I don´t care. Whatever will be will be - and it will be perfect and I will love it, because it will be just that-love. God could be suffering-good. What´s not to love about that? Jan, you wrote: " People get on this board and say - You can't do the work wrong. That's right - I can use the work to abuse myself for as long as I need the suffering to get to the truth. " I want to ask you: do you need suffering to get to the truth? Has suffering a higher meaning? Isn´t suffering just a perfect story to make you think you need to get to something? When you in fact already are in the perfect moment you should be. And then you will be in some other perfect moment which will be exactly where you want to be. Suffering and all, if that´s the story you tell your self about that moment. Jan, you wrote: " Don't know if I'm explaining this very well. " Who cares? It was a perfect explaination, the story we tell ourselves about what you wrote will be the most perfect stories for us. Thank you god for being a rapist, an abuser, Jan, me and all the other things you are. It is all love and perfect. No mistaces have been made. Thank you. Love, > > Dear Jan, > > > > > > > >>>So ...these questions occurred to me... > > > You have a boyfriend...Is it true? > > > > Yes, it´s a story that makes me feel good, I hold on to that one. > > Hi - > When something *out there* makes me feel good - I realize it's simply > an addiction and that I'm giving " control " of my happiness away. > > When everything out there makes me feel good I realize that I have no > story. > > There has never been another person who loved me. It sounds cruel to > say this, but actually, it is the kindest thing in the universe. The > turn around is also true. EVERYONE I have ever met loved/loves me - > just some of them don't realize it consciously yet because I don't get > it myself yet - so these people are here to teach me. > > Everyone is responding to my energy and giving me exactly what I want! > > In my life a friend just came to me with this problem in reverse. HE > wanted her to get her driver's license AND make money - She is in her > late twenties, appears brilliant and capable. > > He is attached to her and decided to stay with her because the pain of > being out there dating was bigger than the pain of staying. Here's a > hunk of a man not wanting to date!!!! Preferring the familiar...hmmmm > for me abuse IS familiar! > > I have noticed that most people " agree " to stay not out of love, but > out of fear. Why is having a boyfriend a happy story? It is > absolutely unequivocally no different than the happy story of NOT > having a boyfriend. All stories are happy or sad based on our " story " > of what they mean. > > I loved your work because for me I realized that the work is usually > never about what you are actually working on - for me it goes much > deeper than that. > > For me it always was - I don't love this man because he isn't who I > want him to be. I don't love this moment because it isn't exactly > what I wish it to be. > > In either case, as always, the moment is perfect - my non acceptance > of the moment is the problem. > > When I pick up a pencil and do the work on this non-acceptance of the > moment, I can lie to myself and abuse myself AGAIN or I can come to > the truth that gives me peace and take action based on that. The > confusion enters in when my addiction is so great that doing the > loving thing hurts me emotionally because I may have to give up > something I'm attached to.... > > Don't know if I'm explaining this very well. This is a deeper > understanding for me of how the work can be used to substantiate an > inner lie to ourselves BECAUSE we have a story of what this moment > SHOULD look like. Surrendering that and doing the work is very > challenging. > > People get on this board and say - You can't do the work wrong. > That's right - I can use the work to abuse myself for as long as I > need the suffering to get to the truth. > > Thanks - I learned a lot from " your " problem!!!! > > Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 " " wrote: > Dear Jan, > I want to ask you: do you need suffering to get to the truth? Has > suffering a higher meaning? Isn´t suffering just a perfect story to > make you think you need to get to something? When you in fact > already are in the perfect moment you should be. And then you will > be in some other perfect moment which will be exactly where you want > to be. Suffering and all, if that´s the story you tell your self > about that moment. I attach to unhappy stories = suffering. If I were able to drop them all, happiness. Apparently, dropping stories ain't so easy as I notice I don't meet very many story-less people around. Your whole post was one long story. What's funny is that I'm realizing how deep being away from my love is so very painful... > > Jan, you wrote: " Don't know if I'm explaining this very well. " Who > cares? It was a perfect explaination, the story we tell ourselves > about what you wrote will be the most perfect stories for us. > Thank you god for being a rapist, an abuser, Jan, me and all the > other things you are. It is all love and perfect. No mistaces have > been made. Thank you. > Love, > Don't know if I'm explaining this very well - I care. Communicating succinctly with the story telling inside me allows me the pleasure of another story dropped...perhaps. If I wasn't aware of being separate from that love - I wouldn't need inquiry... I'm okay with exactly where I am right at this moment - stories and all - Blessings - Jan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2004 Report Share Posted May 2, 2004 Dear Jan, " Don't know if I'm explaining this very well. " Who > > cares? It was a perfect explaination, the story we tell ourselves > > about what you wrote will be the most perfect stories for us. > > Thank you god for being a rapist, an abuser, Jan, me and all the > > other things you are. It is all love and perfect. No mistaces have > > been made. Thank you. > > Love, > > > > Don't know if I'm explaining this very well - I care. Communicating > succinctly with the story telling inside me allows me the pleasure of > another story dropped...perhaps. Wonderful! > > If I wasn't aware of being separate from that love - I wouldn't need > inquiry... Very true. > > I'm okay with exactly where I am right at this moment - stories and > all - Blessings - Jan I am so happy for you! And for me, I loved writing this letter to you! Stories and all! =) Love, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 4, 2004 Report Share Posted May 4, 2004 > Who > cares? It was a perfect explaination, the story we tell ourselves > about what you wrote will be the most perfect stories for us. > Thank you god for being a rapist, an abuser, Jan, me and all the > other things you are. It is all love and perfect. No mistaces have > been made. Thank you. > Love, > > , you are amazing. I'm learning so much just by watching you work through things. Thank you for working out loud! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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