Re: hope as a barrier to enlightenment ? - Steve - Tami

[Guest guest]

Dear Tami,

Thank you for your kind remarks.

You asked:

" What do you mean by that? " future which does not exist "

What I meant was that a " hopeful thought " implys something will occur

in the future. Future implies the existance of linear time. My

opinion is that linear time or future and/or past time is merely

another story or belief. We can not prove that there is such a thing

as future or past. All we can do is make up a story about the

existance of a future or past. All we can experience is NOW!

Love, Steve D.

> > >

> > > >

> > > > I see hope as a thief that steals your attention away from

how

> > > > beautiful everything already is.

> > > >

> > > > Hope presupposes that things could get better, that " The sun

> will

> > > > come out tomorrow " and that something is wrong with the here

> and

> > now.

> > > > One thing that repeats frequently is the she is

> a " Women

> > with

> > > > no future " . What does that mean?

> > > > I think it means that if she died right now then everything

is

> > > > perfect.  nothing could be added.  She walks in a state where

> > > > everything is complete and perfect.  Nothing needs to be

> changed

> > > > because nothing is wrong.  Why would you need hope if

nothing

> > needs

> > > > changing?  It can't get any better than being truely free.

> > > >

> > > > Despite you truely beautiful poetic prose in homage of hope.

> Hope

> > > > has a future orientation and negates the present. Taking one

> away

> > > > from reality and what is.  Failure is an inherent component

of

> > > > hope.  If things really needed to be changed, you would just

> > change

> > > > them.  Not indulge in fantasy or wishful thinking. 

> > > >

> > > > There is a word that is worthy of all the qualities in your

> post,

> > > > but it is not 'hope', for hope has a darker side that takes

> us

> > away

> > > > from reality.

> > > >

> > > > I hope you find what you are looking for.

> > > >

> > > > Chris

> > > >

> > > > > Here is how I see hope.

> > > > >

> > > > > On this earth we must act. (Everyone does until they

don't).

> > > > >

> > > > > I see HOPE as innocent arising within the heart.

> > > > >

> > > > > So I am subtracting any sense of fear or worry from hope.

> > > > >

> > > > > Just pure innocent hope put there by god (as I perceive

> God).

> > > > >

> > > > > So I would say:

> > > > >

> > > > > Hope is a vital, expansive part of life. Without hope, life

> > > > becomes

> > > > > dry. There is a difference, however, between hope and

> > expectation.

> > > > > Expectation thinks, nearly insists, that something must

> happen

> > and

> > > > > experiences a big let down that can lead to depression and

> > > > resentment

> > > > > when it does not happen according to plan. Expectation

> carries

> > > > > suitcases containing demands, attachments, and lots of

ego.

> > Hope

> > > > > travels light, with no baggage.

> > > > >      

> > > > > Hope is a light shining in your heart. Hope says, " Yes! I

> will

> > > > plant

> > > > > the tree! " Hope holds a vision of apples already growing

on

> the

> > > > tree.

> > > > > Then, expectation jumps in. Expectation crowds out the

> > innocent,

> > > > > expansive energy of hope. Hope can let go. Expectation can

> only

> > > > grab.

> > > > > Hope holds a vision put there by God. Expectation takes

> hold of

> > > > that

> > > > > vision and calls it " mine. "

> > > > >

> > > > > .....works for me

> > > > > xxx000

> > > > > Judy

> > > > >

> > > > >