Guest guest Posted November 9, 2006 Report Posted November 9, 2006 Jeanine Sue Etc So if CSM absorbs fat and toxins that are in fat from intestines and you take it all day or before every meal, how do you get fatty acids, since those are essential to health all day. It seems that it is still active or can be still active in your body for 4-6 hours after taking it since it recommends you wait that long until taking medicines, 1/2 hour before or 1 hour before some say for medicines or 4 hours after Dr Shoe says, so must be that CSM is still active 4 hours later, so when do you get essential fatty acids which are necessary part of your needs every day if there is CSM in your body all the time absorbing fats. Perhaps you go without these essential nutrients for a month or so to get rid of toxins and then go off of CSM for awhile at least. I know Tiedlebaum recommends only a one month course of CSM...of course his main focus is CFS and not specifically toxin illness. I guess I could take it for a month as he recommends and go off of it for a month and then on it, instead of taking it once a day as I have been. The thing I try to guard against is that one thing doctors have taught me is that they are mioptic. They treat one thing (or in their case make you feel better for one ailment), but cause two or three new problems in the wake of their treatment which could be worse than the original problem, but don't care or think about it. First thing is do no harm. If you are taking CSM for short period, your body is equipped to lack certain nutrients and have other assaults for short term usually without harm but if you are doing something for a year, a year without adequate absorption of essential fatty acids could do harm to something else. Say you don't have enough Vit D to help Calcium to be absorbed and so you lose bone mass or decalcium your teeth. If it is in spine, you could cause back trouble or hip fracture. A wife of someone at work that is only in her 50's just had to have hip surgery already...my greataunt didn't have that problem until she was 98 but she took care of herself. Quote
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 How long do you have to take the CSM. Seems like a long time. > > > > > I honestly don't understand it all but I do know that I followed Dr. > Shoemaker's > CSM Protocol exactly as he instructed (since Dec. '03) and I am doing so > much better. > > Sue > See CSM Protocol below > > Jeanine Sue Etc > So if CSM absorbs fat and toxins that are in fat > from intestines and you take it all day or before > every meal, how do you get fatty acids, since > those are essential to health all day. It seems > > > > > > CSM Protocol > 1. On an empty stomach, take one scoop of CSM (9grams), mix with water, or > juice, 4-6oz. ( I used Crystal Light, Peach Tea) > 2. Stir well and swallow. Add more liquid, repeat 1 above until done > 3. Drink an extra 4-6oz. of liquid > 4. After 30 min., you may eat or take meds (wait at least 2 hrs. before > taking > thyroxine, digitalis, theophylline, coumadin & others, ask your Dr. for > info) > 5. Take CSM 4 times a day! > 6. If you eat first, wait at least 60 minutes before taking your next CSM > 7. Reflux, constipation, bloating & bowel distress are to be expected > 8. Use acid blocking medications as needed > 9. Use sorbitol, 70% solution, 1TBSP 3-4 times a day to relieve constipation > > > > > > Jeanine Sue Etc > So if CSM absorbs fat and toxins that are in fat > from intestines and you take it all day or before > every meal, how do you get fatty acids, since > those are essential to health all day. It seems > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 > How long do you have to take the CSM. Seems like a long time. How long you stay on the CSM varies per individual. It also depends upon whether you're still being exposed. I've been told that once I move into my hopefully non-moldy house and validate that it's safe by going off CSM for two weeks, I will go on a maintenance dosage of twice a day. The reason for the maintenance dosage is that as is discussed on this list, mold is everywhere. I'm in a hotel right now for work and there's a small amount of mold in the bathroom (it is rare to find a hotel bathroom that is mold free). And, of course, airplanes are also wonderful havens for mold. Because I'm a dreaded genotype (and mold) and have been sick for quite some time, I have been on the 4 times a day dosage for almost 8 months. My kids were only on it 3 times a day for one month and are now on it twice a day. B. Quote
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 I have found that I can go days, sometimes many days without it, but one bad exposure will mean I have to take it again for days afterward.. and I feel miserable and can't function for days.. (from the mold, not the cholstyramine, which I tolerate pretty well now..) The discomfort peaks six to twelve hours after the exposure.. doesn't go away for a long time.. It also usually means that I don't sleep well.. I have clothes that will do this.. sealed up now in trash bags and plastic boxes.. Which reminds me, I meant to ask.. my wife and I have a bunch of nice fleece jackets we can't wear (name brand fleece jackets that we can't afford to throw away) that we have washed many times and still can't wear.. (I'm the one who gets sick, not her) Any pointers, anyone? Lets make this fun.. an experiment... They were our main warm jackets during our nightmare and now they are still VERY reactive despite being washed at least five times now, in detergent, with borax and bleach.. etc.. Help... Quote
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2006 Report Posted November 10, 2006 , I take a maintenance dose of 2X a day unless I feel like I've gotten a hit. Then it's back to 4X a day for a week. How long do you have to take the CSM. Seems like a long time. Quote
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2006 Report Posted November 11, 2006 Does anyone know a source for CSM such as an online pharmacy that would ship to the USA? Quote
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