Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 I think that moods come from thougths I am attached to, and sometimes I inquire, and sometimes I don't. Moods do pass, and I notice that without inquiry, they usually return, with the thoughts. And I also notice, that even with inquiry, these thoughts and moods can and do return. It is my preference to continue inquiring, since I do experience an increasing peace and expansion from meeting my thoughts with understanding. I feel like I am less attached to certain outcomes these days, and less stressed. I don't inquire unless I do -- if I don't, and I go to a movie instead, this is perfect! To me, inquiry is part of my life, not instead of my life. And I don't think of it as intellectual, since in my experience, everything that happens in my world is coming through this part of me I call mind. Things that seem physical, I experience intellectually as well. I notice this and either inquire or not. Also, I don't think of my thoughts as in levels...just those that create pain and those that don't. And, in each moment, any thought can come in depending on what is occuring. So, if I have a lot of attachment and expectation about how things should be in the moment, and they are not happening that way, then I seem to have the habit of attaching to thoughts that create pain. If things around me go " my way " meaning happen the way I think things should, then I have less pain. Inquiry for me is a way to loosen this " grip " I think I can have on what is happening around me by seeing that my thoughts about how things should be are not true. These are my thoughts about what you wrote...and I am wondering what is true for you? love, morgaine -- In Loving-what-is , " openeyes4444 " <openeyes4444@y...> wrote: > Do any of you guys just get tired of doing all this intellectual > inquiry? Sometimes I just want to let go of it all and start living > my life. For instance, I can be really upset about something, doing > a lot of inquiry and analyzing while putting my life on hold. Then I > get a call to join a friend for lunch or a movie and all my concerns > seem trivial and only relevant to the past mood. I guess I'm > beginning to see how everything is relevant to the particular mood > I'm in, and it's the mood that colors my perception of any given > person or situation--the mood seems to determine whether I'll have a > higher level thought or a lower level one. What do you guys think > about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Actually, says and my experience is the opposite. says that without first a thought, there can not be a feeling. This appears to be true for me; however, many do not agree with it. As far as getting tired of inquiring? No, I have never gotten tired of it; but I have gotten tired of doing it in written format. For me, after five years with The Work, it is not possible for me to stop the inquiring, but it is possible for me to put off doing the written portion and just go to a movie, see friends or take a nap. By the way, I personally do not consider The Work to be an " intellectual " activity. However, I do understand that it can be just that. I consider it to be an activity of the Spirit. But that is merely my opinion. My opinion is that if The Work was dependent upon my intellect, it could never have accomplished what it has in my experience. For me, The Work is about " real forgiveness " ; meaning the coming to the realization that no harm was really done. Blessings, Steve D. > Do any of you guys just get tired of doing all this intellectual > inquiry? Sometimes I just want to let go of it all and start living > my life. For instance, I can be really upset about something, doing > a lot of inquiry and analyzing while putting my life on hold. Then I > get a call to join a friend for lunch or a movie and all my concerns > seem trivial and only relevant to the past mood. I guess I'm > beginning to see how everything is relevant to the particular mood > I'm in, and it's the mood that colors my perception of any given > person or situation--the mood seems to determine whether I'll have a > higher level thought or a lower level one. What do you guys think > about this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2004 Report Share Posted January 28, 2004 Stop talking , stop thinking , and there is nothing you will not understand . SENG - TS ' SAN Literally , no irrational feeling is spontaneous but is birthed by untrue thinking . However , illnesses ( biochemistry ) naturally is fervid in both feeling and thinking . Exhortations to health through seeing " truth " for those in struggle are costly in the remorse and guilt feelings to the selfsame " those " . The conclusion of " I am wrong / bad " is the logical conclusion of the counsel " think true ! " when one is out with a bout of irrational feelings / suffering and true to its nature it persists . " Think light ! " perhaps ? Angels can fly because they take themselves lightly . Remember guffawed ad lib as when in her " right place / mind " at the point of loving what is . Lol ! On Wednesday, January 28, 2004, at 02:18 PM, SteveDaily wrote: > Actually, says and my experience is the opposite. says > that without first a thought, there can not be a feeling. This > appears to be true for me; however, many do not agree with it. > > As far as getting tired of inquiring? No, I have never gotten tired > of it; but I have gotten tired of doing it in written format. For > me, after five years with The Work, it is not possible for me to stop > the inquiring, but it is possible for me to put off doing the written > portion and just go to a movie, see friends or take a nap. > > By the way, I personally do not consider The Work to be > an " intellectual " activity. However, I do understand that it can be > just that. I consider it to be an activity of the Spirit. But that > is merely my opinion. My opinion is that if The Work was dependent > upon my intellect, it could never have accomplished what it has in my > experience. For me, The Work is about " real forgiveness " ; meaning > the coming to the realization that no harm was really done. > > Blessings, Steve D. > > >> Do any of you guys just get tired of doing all this intellectual >> inquiry? Sometimes I just want to let go of it all and start > living >> my life. For instance, I can be really upset about something, > doing >> a lot of inquiry and analyzing while putting my life on hold. Then > I >> get a call to join a friend for lunch or a movie and all my > concerns >> seem trivial and only relevant to the past mood. I guess I'm >> beginning to see how everything is relevant to the particular mood >> I'm in, and it's the mood that colors my perception of any given >> person or situation--the mood seems to determine whether I'll have > a >> higher level thought or a lower level one. What do you guys think >> about this? > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2004 Report Share Posted January 29, 2004 On Wed, Jan 28, 2004 at 07:19:09PM -0000, openeyes4444 wrote: > Do any of you guys just get tired of doing all this intellectual > inquiry? Sometimes I just want to let go of it all and start living > my life. For instance, I can be really upset about something, doing > a lot of inquiry and analyzing while putting my life on hold. Then I > get a call to join a friend for lunch or a movie and all my concerns > seem trivial and only relevant to the past mood. I guess I'm > beginning to see how everything is relevant to the particular mood > I'm in, and it's the mood that colors my perception of any given > person or situation--the mood seems to determine whether I'll have a > higher level thought or a lower level one. What do you guys think > about this? Hi, Open Eyes. In the past when I've watched horror movies, I've found them very upsetting and the images and sounds have stayed with me for days. I didn't know about inquiry then, but now I think having inquiry would've been helpful to me at those times. What happens for you when your friend who called you for lunch stands you up? Do you get upset? 's recommendation in the book is to use inquiry on the thoughts that are painful or stressful or uncomfortable in some way. My experience has been that doing this seems to be leading to a much more peaceful life for me. I inquire when I feel the need, and I don't notice myself getting tired of the peace. If I do, I know how to generate more drama for myself anytime -- just stop inquiring and dive headfirst into the story. Either is okay. Living my life with inquiry, good. Living my life without inquiry, good. If it hurts, I can inquire or not, good. Tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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