Re: Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

[Guest guest]

I hafta jump in here.

I hear your story and I think you are saying there is no such thing as empathy.

But.......you also say " humans can only feel the pain of the story they are

believing about someone elses pain. " Damn, thats' my empathy!!!

I keep thinking we are all saying the same thing but making stories about it so

we give it a twist to make it " special " to us.

Doreen

Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

>

> Empathy comes from being in touch with the sense 'we are all

> one' .... so you would feel or THINK you would feel another's pain

> then .... wouldn't you ? There are examples on tape of your Kt

> showing 'empathy' ~ only perhaps you call it something different,

> like 'sympathy' ? (I sincerely hope not, as sympathy can be

> patronising, whereas empathy never is.) Be interested to know why

> what you call your 'connection' with others ...

>

Barbara I hope you still want to play. LOL ... here we go again.

I hear that you have a story that was showing empathy, but of

course that would be impossible! can't feel anyone elses pain,

I can't feel anyone elses pain, no one can feel someone elses pain;

humans can only feel the pain of the story they are believing about

someone elses pain.

Now without any stories we are all one in love. In a state of love,

nothing else exists, no world, no pain, no bodies. World, pain,

bodies only exist because I believe a story that they are real.

Just some thoughts

Loving what is, angel, and that would be you.

Neo

[Guest guest]

I prefer to feel compassion and understanding to feeling empathy.

Compassion=a tender, open heartedness; kindness and tolerance.

Understanding= consciousness and awareness. Empathy= identification

with..., to sympathize and project. Eddie

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>Reply-To: Loving-what-is

>To: <Loving-what-is >

>Subject: Re: Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

>Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:34:33 -0800

>

>I hafta jump in here.

>

>I hear your story and I think you are saying there is no such thing as

>empathy. But.......you also say " humans can only feel the pain of the

>story they are believing about someone elses pain. " Damn, thats' my

>empathy!!!

>

>I keep thinking we are all saying the same thing but making stories about

>it so we give it a twist to make it " special " to us.

>

>Doreen

>

>

> Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

>

>

>

> >

> > Empathy comes from being in touch with the sense 'we are all

> > one' .... so you would feel or THINK you would feel another's pain

> > then .... wouldn't you ? There are examples on tape of your Kt

> > showing 'empathy' ~ only perhaps you call it something different,

> > like 'sympathy' ? (I sincerely hope not, as sympathy can be

> > patronising, whereas empathy never is.) Be interested to know why

> > what you call your 'connection' with others ...

> >

>

>

> Barbara I hope you still want to play. LOL ... here we go again.

>

> I hear that you have a story that was showing empathy, but of

> course that would be impossible! can't feel anyone elses pain,

> I can't feel anyone elses pain, no one can feel someone elses pain;

> humans can only feel the pain of the story they are believing about

> someone elses pain.

>

> Now without any stories we are all one in love. In a state of love,

> nothing else exists, no world, no pain, no bodies. World, pain,

> bodies only exist because I believe a story that they are real.

>

> Just some thoughts

>

> Loving what is, angel, and that would be you.

>

>

> Neo

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Actually your definition of compassion and understanding is what I get when I

speak of empathy. As I said, it's my story no matter what the dictionary might

say.

DOreen

Eddie Katz wrote:

I prefer to feel compassion and understanding to feeling empathy.

Compassion=a tender, open heartedness; kindness and tolerance.

Understanding= consciousness and awareness. Empathy= identification

with..., to sympathize and project. Eddie

>

>Reply-To: Loving-what-is

>To: <Loving-what-is >

>Subject: Re: Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

>Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:34:33 -0800

>

>I hafta jump in here.

>

>I hear your story and I think you are saying there is no such thing as

>empathy. But.......you also say " humans can only feel the pain of the

>story they are believing about someone elses pain. " Damn, thats' my

>empathy!!!

>

>I keep thinking we are all saying the same thing but making stories about

>it so we give it a twist to make it " special " to us.

>

>Doreen

>

>

> Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

>

>

>

> >

> > Empathy comes from being in touch with the sense 'we are all

> > one' .... so you would feel or THINK you would feel another's pain

> > then .... wouldn't you ? There are examples on tape of your Kt

> > showing 'empathy' ~ only perhaps you call it something different,

> > like 'sympathy' ? (I sincerely hope not, as sympathy can be

> > patronising, whereas empathy never is.) Be interested to know why

> > what you call your 'connection' with others ...

> >

>

>

> Barbara I hope you still want to play. LOL ... here we go again.

>

> I hear that you have a story that was showing empathy, but of

> course that would be impossible! can't feel anyone elses pain,

> I can't feel anyone elses pain, no one can feel someone elses pain;

> humans can only feel the pain of the story they are believing about

> someone elses pain.

>

> Now without any stories we are all one in love. In a state of love,

> nothing else exists, no world, no pain, no bodies. World, pain,

> bodies only exist because I believe a story that they are real.

>

> Just some thoughts

>

> Loving what is, angel, and that would be you.

>

>

> Neo

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Doreen, You can hold onto your story if you choose to. You can also open up

to a new perspective if you choose to. Eddie

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>Reply-To: Loving-what-is

>To: Loving-what-is

>Subject: Re: Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

>Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 18:15:35 -0500 (EST)

>

>Actually your definition of compassion and understanding is what I get when

>I speak of empathy. As I said, it's my story no matter what the dictionary

>might say.

>

>DOreen

>

>Eddie Katz wrote:

>I prefer to feel compassion and understanding to feeling empathy.

>Compassion=a tender, open heartedness; kindness and tolerance.

>Understanding= consciousness and awareness. Empathy= identification

>with..., to sympathize and project. Eddie

>

>

> >

> >Reply-To: Loving-what-is

> >To: <Loving-what-is >

> >Subject: Re: Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

> >Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 20:34:33 -0800

> >

> >I hafta jump in here.

> >

> >I hear your story and I think you are saying there is no such thing as

> >empathy. But.......you also say " humans can only feel the pain of the

> >story they are believing about someone elses pain. " Damn, thats' my

> >empathy!!!

> >

> >I keep thinking we are all saying the same thing but making stories about

> >it so we give it a twist to make it " special " to us.

> >

> >Doreen

> >

> >

> > Re: Righteous Anger! (Barbara .. Part 2)

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Empathy comes from being in touch with the sense 'we are all

> > > one' .... so you would feel or THINK you would feel another's pain

> > > then .... wouldn't you ? There are examples on tape of your Kt

> > > showing 'empathy' ~ only perhaps you call it something different,

> > > like 'sympathy' ? (I sincerely hope not, as sympathy can be

> > > patronising, whereas empathy never is.) Be interested to know why

> > > what you call your 'connection' with others ...

> > >

> >

> >

> > Barbara I hope you still want to play. LOL ... here we go again.

> >

> > I hear that you have a story that was showing empathy, but of

> > course that would be impossible! can't feel anyone elses pain,

> > I can't feel anyone elses pain, no one can feel someone elses pain;

> > humans can only feel the pain of the story they are believing about

> > someone elses pain.

> >

> > Now without any stories we are all one in love. In a state of love,

> > nothing else exists, no world, no pain, no bodies. World, pain,

> > bodies only exist because I believe a story that they are real.

> >

> > Just some thoughts

> >

> > Loving what is, angel, and that would be you.

> >

> >

> > Neo

> >

> >

> >

> >