new member

[Guest guest]

Welcome Kandie. I have 4 special needs boys and I also homeschool. When you

say home therapy, what do you mean? I use natural suppliments with my kids,

and am always interrested in othere parents home therapies. Welcome to our

list and feel free to post anytime, and feel free to email me privately if I

can be of help. I look forward to hearing more from you, God bless,

Sharon(moderator)

[Guest guest]

Hello . First of all, let me say welcome to our list. I am sure alot of people on this list will offer you some good advice. Is your child on an IEP? If so, it's important to put everything in this IEP. You should call a meeting with everyone who works with your son and discuss what you are doing at home and all your concerns. Then set up some kind of plan where there is consistency at school and home. Tell them all your concerns, just like you did us. As for the teacher, write out a little bit about your son, your concerns and give her a good book about aspergers. Alot of teachers don't understand aspergers and autism, and every child is different. you know your child better than anyone, and that's why it's important to communicate with the people who are working with your child. I know others here will offer some good advice. I hope all this helped, and if you need to, please feel free to email me privately. Please keep us updated. I look forward to hearing more from you. For all other new members, welcome and please introduce yourselves, if you haven't already. As for everyone else, updates please. Hope everyone is doing great, God bless, Sharon(moderator)

[Guest guest]

Fran, welcome to the list. I have a 11 yr old dx with aspergers/adhd. He has sensory problems, also. I also have a 4, 5, and 6 yr old, all with autism and sensory problems. I know exactly how you feel. I felt alone for a long time, also, until I found the internet. That's one of the main reasons I created this list, because no one really knows how it is unless they have been there. We have a very wonderful doctor, and it does make a world of difference. Thanks for the book title. I will have to check that one out. Once again, welcome. Feel free to jump in anytime and post whatever's on your mind. Feel free to email me privately anytime. Look forward to hearing more from you, God bless, Sharon(moderator)

[Guest guest]

Hey Amy, hope things are great for you also. Yes I have 4 boys, 4, 5, 6, and 11, all aspergers/autism, some behavior problems, etc. They do pretty good. We homeschool them. They do keep me busy, especially the 5 and 6 yr olds. They are both very hyper, impulsive, and sometimes aggressive. They are all beautiful boys, and look normal. So it's hard for alot of people to understand, even some family members. There are those family members who think they need discipline and we just need to be strict and spank them and they have voiced this. I just don't listen, or I say fine, since you know so much, you take them for a few weeks and show us how it's done. That usually shuts them up.We take one day at a time, laugh alot, cry some, and say many prayers. It's tough, but we do o.k. We have a real good doctor that they love. We also got lucky with a wonderful dentist that they love. So it makes trips to the dentist not so stressful. They keep me on my toes, and there's never a dull, boring moment in our house, or a quiet one for that matter. However I wouldn't have it any other way. I love talking about them and am very proud of them. Thanks for taking the time to ask. Look forward to hearing more from you, God bless, Sharon

[Guest guest]

Wow Sharon, I didn't know you had four children with Autism/autism-related

symptoms. You really have your hands ful. How are they all doing ?

Hopeflly well. I'm glad to hear that you have a great doctor. we do too,

now.

>From: SSch184188@...

>Reply-To: autism-aspergers

>To: autism-aspergers

>Subject: Re: New Member

>Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 23:11:18 EST

>

>Fran, welcome to the list. I have a 11 yr old dx with aspergers/adhd. He

>has

>sensory problems, also. I also have a 4, 5, and 6 yr old, all with autism

>and

>sensory problems. I know exactly how you feel. I felt alone for a long

>time,

>also, until I found the internet. That's one of the main reasons I created

>this list, because no one really knows how it is unless they have been

>there.

>We have a very wonderful doctor, and it does make a world of difference.

>Thanks for the book title. I will have to check that one out. Once again,

>welcome. Feel free to jump in anytime and post whatever's on your mind.

>Feel

>free to email me privately anytime. Look forward to hearing more from you,

>God bless, Sharon(moderator)

Amy, 26 yr old mother of 3 little children: sara(7), alex(5,autistic), and

nick(1). Happily married to (25) for 6 years. We live in Northeast

Ohio.

You can see my family's webpage:

http://mommyamy.homestead.com/FurlongFamily.html

You can send me an instant message to: mommyamy26

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[Guest guest]

I love how everyone is so quick to tell you what you are doing wrong. My son was in the care of a family member when I returned to work after he was born. She had 5 wonderful children. She had him from 5 - 11 months of age. She used to tell me that 'he wasn't like her kids', she didn't know how to handle him. Of course several other people 9over the years) told us that we are inconsistent with him and he doesn't know the rules. My husband and I went away for a week and my mother even implied that they had cured him since he was in their care. He is on ritalin and she was shocked that he still needed it after a week with her. Oh, I could go on, but time doesn't permit and I am sure that you have all gotten the point by now.

-Robin

[Guest guest]

My mother told me I should institutionalize mine

because he would never fit into society....she never had any patience for

things that weren't perfect....

Robin wrote:

I love how everyone is so quick to tell you what you are doing wrong.

My son was in the care of a family member when I returned to work after he

was born. She had 5 wonderful children. She had him from 5 - 11 months of

age. She used to tell me that 'he wasn't like her kids', she didn't know

how to handle him. Of course several other people 9over the years) told us

that we are inconsistent with him and he doesn't know the rules. My husband

and I went away for a week and my mother even implied that they had cured

him since he was in their care. He is on ritalin and she was shocked that

he still needed it after a week with her. Oh, I could go on, but time doesn't

permit and I am sure that you have all gotten the point by now.

-Robin

[Guest guest]

Hello Robin. First of all, if I haven't already, let me say welcome to our list. You are not alone here. I have family members who have said all my kids need is discipline. I have also had family call me to tell me they just saw a show about autism and my kids are nothing like the kids in it. My parents are wonderful. They love my kids and accept them like they are. My husbands parents don't live close by and don't often get to see the kids or what we go through and they are under the impression that a good spanking solves all problems. They are the kind of people embarassed of the kids at times. I just ignore all this and go on. You will always run across these and hear statements, but the important thing is to go on and not lose sight of what's important, your child, not what people think. So hang in there, we are all here for you. Feel free to post whatever's on your mind and feel free to email me privately if you need to. God bless, Sharon(moderator)

[Guest guest]

if my mother said that to me about my son, i don't know if i'd ever speak to

her again. that is so heartless and ignrant

Amy-26, mother of three kids: sara-7, alex-5 (autistic), and nick-16months.

Happily married to -25 for almost 6 years (march 13). We live in

Northeast Ohio.

My webpage: http://mommyamy.homestead.com/FurlongFamily.html

My Instant Chat screen name: mommyamy26

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To: autism-aspergers

Subject: Re: New Member

Date: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:50:29 -0600

My mother told me I should institutionalize mine because he would never

fit into society....she never had any patience for things that weren't

perfect....

Robin wrote:

>

>I love how everyone is so quick to tell you what you are doing wrong.

>My son was in the care of a family member when I returned to work

>after he was born. She had 5 wonderful children. She had him from 5 -

>11 months of age. She used to tell me that 'he wasn't like her kids',

>she didn't know how to handle him. Of course several other people

>9over the years) told us that we are inconsistent with him and he

>doesn't know the rules. My husband and I went away for a week and my

>mother even implied that they had cured him since he was in their

>care. He is on ritalin and she was shocked that he still needed it

>after a week with her. Oh, I could go on, but time doesn't permit and

>I am sure that you have all gotten the point by now.

>

>-Robin

>

>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I did stop talking to her....she died at the end

of January and I had to make a speed run out to california to take care of

her business and to the end she still didn't believe in my son while cleaning

up her place I found a bunch of notes and brousures about places that she

was just stockpiling...and I think its just such a loss on her end because

my son is 9 yrs old as of the 8th of this month and he is so smart and so

loving that I feel bad she lost out

Amy Furlong wrote:

if my mother said that to me about my son, i don't know if i'd ever speak to her again. that is so heartless and ignrant :(Amy-26, mother of three kids: sara-7, alex-5 (autistic), and nick-16months. Happily married to -25 for almost 6 years (march 13). We live in Northeast Ohio.My webpage: http://mommyamy.homestead.com/FurlongFamily.htmlMy Instant Chat screen name: mommyamy26----Original Message Follows----Reply-To: autism-aspergers To: autism!

-aspergers Subject: Re: New MemberDate: Thu, 01 Mar 2001 11:50:29 -0600My mother told me I should institutionalize mine because he would neverfit into society....she never had any patience for things that weren'tperfect....Robin wrote:

I love how everyone is so quick to tell you what you are doing wrong.My son was in the care of a family member when I returned to workafter he was born. She had 5 wonderful children. She had him from 5 -11 months of age. She used to tell me that 'he wasn't like her kids',she didn't know how to handle him. Of course several other people9over the years) told us that we are inconsistent with him and hedoesn't know the rules. My husband and I went away for a week and mymother even implied that they had cured him since he was in theircare. He is on ritalin and she was shocked that he still needed itafter a week with her. Oh, I could go on, but time doesn't permit andI am sure that you have all gotten the point by now.-Robin------------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

Welcome Laurie

(have to look back, sorry if I misspelled your name!)

I have some

questions regarding Risperdal too, how does one discern between tardive

dyskinesia and regular involuntary movements associated with an aut disorder?

has been on Risperdal for 4 years now (he is almost 7) and the only

thing doc checks for is a tremor in his hands when she asks him to hold them

out in front of him. I guess I am not too very bothered because his father does

some of the same movements but with much less regularity and severity of the movements.

They even make the same face when theior hands are behind their heads <G>

Anyway we have “enjoyed” the benefits of not being so terribly impulsive.

I know none of that helps but maybe wwill start a conversation that will.

Rhonda

[Guest guest]

Hello Debi,

Welcome to the group. My name is Claudette and I have a son Josh who was dx

with AS this past February. This is an excellent group. I've learn so much

these past few month. They answer any question that you have. Good luck and

God Bless.

Claudette

Mom to Josh 8 AS and Jessie 4

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Claudette. I am excited to learn more about AS as it is all so new to me.

What kind of class is your son in at school? That seems to be 's biggest issue, adapting to school. Here at home we have made his environment very comfortable and safe. Also, after reading " The Explosive Child, " I have really been able to cut down on his meltdowns and try to teach him how to handle problems effectively. But that all seems to go out the window when he is at school. The school has moved him to a special day class with only 9 kids which has helped tremendously. But I worry about the pace of that class as most of the kids are learning disabled where has a pretty high IQ. What have all of you found to be a good placement at school? just can't seem to handle the stimuli of a large class of regular kindergartners, yet I do not want him to fall behind academically.

Thanks!

Debi

- 5 DSI and AS

Kymmie -9

Re: New memberHello Debi,Welcome to the group. My name is Claudette and I have a son Josh who was dx with AS this past February. This is an excellent group. I've learn so much these past few month. They answer any question that you have. Good luck and God Bless.Claudette Mom to Josh 8 AS and Jessie 4

[Guest guest]

Welcome

What do you mean by weird foods???

CHRIS

and Parents of:Sully 10-94 (AS)Chenoa 6-96 (NT Mild Speech Delay)Trevayne 3-98 (PDDNOS, Significant Speech Delay)andset 12-99 (Significant Speech Delay)

New Member

Hello, I am AS and 22 1/2 years old. I live in Midwest where there area little help for me. Can I have some help from some of you cause Ieat weird foods. Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Welcome Sharon!

Leah

[Guest guest]

Hi

I’m the mother of three my two boys aged 6 yrs and

-jay 4 yrs are both high functioning autistics hope to talk to you

soon.

Regards

H

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Message-----

From: rburridgehedgeend

Sent: 13 January 2002 15:35

To: autism-aspergers

Subject: NEW

MEMBER

Hello

My name is Sharon and I am mother to

(11). He is

autistic. I look forward to

being involved with this group.

Regards

[Guest guest]

Dee,

It seems as though Luke definitely falls on the Autism Spectrum,

but that's just another mother's opinion. I would seek professional

advice from people who are knowledgeable about autism and the

different forms of it. Our son has Asperger's Syndrome, although he

is very verbal and that tends to be one of the definers of Asperger's

on the autism spectrum. Since Luke is not verbal, he may not have

Asperger's. (Of course hemay as well) There are forms of autism in

which previously acquired skills are lost. There's a link for a test

that will give you indications of autism, but it's not definitive.

Here's the online link for the Autism Spectrum Quotient. It

will give you a good idea of whether or not your child is on the

autism spectrum, but won't tell you exactly where they fall on the

spectrum. This test also may show only strong autistic traits

and not neccessarily diagnosable autism.

http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/9.12/aqtest.html

Hope this link is helpful! To give you an idea, our ASPERGER'S SON

SCORED A 46, WHILE THE REST OF THE FAMILY SCORED 5, 5 AND 6. (oops,

caps lock) If you'd like Asperger's links, I can forward them, but

check out the link below and see where you think Luke may fall:

These are the five autism spectrum disorders:

DSM-IV

299.0 Autistic Disorder

299.80 Rett's Disorder

299.10 Childhood Disintegrative Disorder

299.80 Asperger's Disorder

299.80 Pervasive Developmental Disorder Not Otherwise Specified

This link describes each in detail according to the DSM-IV:

http://www.thelaughtongroup.com/pddsupport/dsm-iv.htm

Also, our pediatrician recognized signs of autism at age 2. 2 is not

too soon. Our son was diagnosed at age 3, though, and by age 3 we

were able to see things that were concerning that were not concerning

at age 2. Our son wasn't talking much at two- simple two word

sentences and by three longer sentences and by three and a half huge

paragraphs, if he chooses to talk to you. Luke (our son)

also is completely fascinated and entranced with the Tank.

Ask him anything and he's your database! Ask anything else

and he could care less.

Go with your heart. You're his mama and you know him best!

Best blessings to you.

Kelli Klein

> Hi,

> My name is Dee I am a new member and I have reason to

believe

> my son Luke may be autistic. Here is our story:

>

> I have some concerns, very strong concerns about Luke being

> Autistic. I have brought my concerns to my doctor in the past, but

> he felt it was nothing to be concerned about. I still however have

a

> strong feeling that he may be. Today after his speech therapy I

was

> talking with his speech therapist and I voiced my concerns on the

> matter. She didn't seem to think the possibility was so far

fetched

> and while she was not saying he is, she too felt he showed some

> qualities of possible being autistic.

> I know there are different degrees of autism and I realize

> Luke is pretty young (he just turned 2 on March 14) for anyone to

> even make a diagnoses. But let me tell you some the things he does

> and maybe someone can tell me if my concerns are at least

warranted.

> This may get lengthy so I apologize in advance!

> Luke has always been a very laid back kid. We would joke

and

> say that sometimes you could forget he was even around. We found

> since a young age that he is very comfortable in his own

> surroundings. Yet, when we go somewhere he is like a different

kid.

> Like he is all out of sorts. Always trying to leave. Heads for

the

> door and tries to put his shoes on. He goes off a lot by himself.

> He gets very fixed on things for hours at a time. My other boys

are

> totally into the tank engine and Luke can sit for ever with

a

> train playing. He will lay on the floor and put his face as close

as

> he can to the track. He will then take the train and just go back

> and forth with it. We also have a battery operated one and he will

> lay there as close as he can and let the train go by just grazing

his

> chin, nose, and forehead. Over and over and over.

> His speech is of course a problem. He does not say

anything.

> Has never said mama or dada or baba. He used to say a few things

> like bye bye and night night, but anything he has said in the past

he

> no longer says. He does say " no " right now. But that is it for

> vocabulary.

> He spins a lot. We always thought it was cute. He would

put

> down an object, like his cup, on the floor and then just run

circles

> around it. Or, he just spins and spins and spins.

> He is very comfortable with us. He does show emotion to us,

> but no one else. He will not have personal contact with my parents

> or my MIL At the sitters house he is good with the boys, but keeps

> pretty much to himself and is constantly heading for the door. He

> does a lot of hand fluttering. Not sure if this is related to his

> lack of speech or not. Also does the same with his feet!

> So, I am being overly worried? I know it hard for you to

say,

> but I just keep seeing qualities in him that lead me to believe it

is

> possible. Anyhow, I would really value your honest opinions here.

> Any information you can give would be greatly appreciated!! Thanks

> so much for listening!

>

> Dee

[Guest guest]

Hi Dee,

I'm also pretty new to the group, and I'm in a similar situation to

yours. My son will be 2.5 in May and is still not talking. He has

different problems from your son, but also has some markers of autism.

But things like hand flapping and spinning can be signs of neurological

immaturity, rather than autism. I suggest first of all that you get a

copy of Stanley Greenspan's book, " The Child with Special Needs. " It may

not be possible to determine anytime soon whether your son is really

autistic or not. He's obviously borderline if he is at all and this is

an area that is not well understood. (Many scientists don't even believe

there is such a thing as PDD-NOS). We've been through evaluations and

the doctors think they can rule out autism, but no one is sure. In the

meantime, Greenspan will give you lots of good strategies for helping

your son become more interactive and emotional in a way that's

comfortable and fun for you.

Also, check out two other yahoo groups: latetalkkids and

naturallatetalkers. Dr. Camerata participates in latetalkkids

and he is an expert on late talking children. Above all, don't come to

any conclusions yet about your son. It's hard to resist the desire for

clear answers (I Know!), but he's so young, there may be many changes in

the next few years. Feel free to write to my email if you want.

Best wishes,

Rosemary

[Guest guest]

Dee-

i'm not an expert- but i would definately have him tested. You can do it

thru early intervention or the school system- and not have to pay for it.

My son is 2.5 and we just got him tested 2 weeks ago (still waiting for the

eval) All the things you talked about- my son has about 80% of those

characteristics. I would bet my life that the eval will say his is

autistic. I used to work with autistic kids years ago, and knew a lot of

the signs, but I just didn't know for a while, if it was real or just his

personality. When they are 1 1/2- it doesn't look so weird. When they are

2 1/2 and they don't pay attention to other kids or strangers- and you have

to start making excuses- like " Well, he's not talking yet " or " He doesn't

have the language yet " then you know SOMETHING is wrong.

My son will be 3 in August and he has never called me " mommy " -

but i've heard him say " cookie " and " blues clues " . Even so, he is way

behind and i honestly feel with ABA his will improve his skills greatly.

I'm also checking into diet/allergies and heavy metal poisoning.....

i've just begun.

Where you live in the world really makes a difference of what choices you

will have. I would love to give you more advise- but i'm just figuring this

out myself. Good luck with Luke and keep us informed!

- in NY

[Guest guest]

Hi and Dee,

Yes, it sounds like we're all at about the same point. I first began

to notice something different about Ned soon after he was born (major,

major colic) and then when he was a year old and he wouldn't ever look

at me when I called his name. Then speech came and went--a word here

and there that was never repeated. Many strange, repetitive

obsessions. We've been getting early intervention for about 2

months--speech therapy and occupational therapy. They've helped

tremendously in a number of ways: Ned is getting so much more

interactive and energetic, making lots of eye contact and being more

playful. Even verbalizing more, though we still don't have any words.

I definitely recommend early intervention.

At the same time I've heard lots of horror stories about early

intervention. It all depends on the provider. I would recommend to

anyone that they get a couple different medical opinions before they

accept any dx and not just go with therapists who may not actually be

qualified to dx autism. Of course, it all comes down to your gut

feelings as a mother. You know what is best. But after we saw an SLP

who told us she thought Ned had ASD I felt so depressed and everything

he did seemed to confirm the dx. But then when we saw a developmental

pediatrician who said he thought it was a communication disorder only,

we felt much more hopeful. Again, I don't think these developmental

problems are very well understood by anyone. And I can't recommend

Stanley Greenspan's book, " The child with special needs, " highly

enough. It's a real life saver because you don't need any dx to use

his methods. They work for all kinds of kids.

Best wishes for both of you,

Rosemary

> Dee-

> i'm not an expert- but i would definately have him tested. You can

do it

> thru early intervention or the school system- and not have to pay

for it.

> My son is 2.5 and we just got him tested 2 weeks ago (still waiting

for the

> eval) All the things you talked about- my son has about 80% of

those

> characteristics. I would bet my life that the eval will say his is

> autistic. I used to work with autistic kids years ago, and knew a

lot of

> the signs, but I just didn't know for a while, if it was real or

just his

> personality. When they are 1 1/2- it doesn't look so weird. When

they are

> 2 1/2 and they don't pay attention to other kids or strangers- and

you have

> to start making excuses- like " Well, he's not talking yet " or " He

doesn't

> have the language yet " then you know SOMETHING is wrong.

> My son will be 3 in August and he has never called me " mommy " -

> but i've heard him say " cookie " and " blues clues " . Even so, he is

way

> behind and i honestly feel with ABA his will improve his skills

greatly.

> I'm also checking into diet/allergies and heavy metal poisoning.....

> i've just begun.

> Where you live in the world really makes a difference of what

choices you

> will have. I would love to give you more advise- but i'm just

figuring this

> out myself. Good luck with Luke and keep us informed!

> - in NY

[Guest guest]

I feel like you've just described my oldest son, 10. Although he doesn't bully in school, he's always at his sister, 7. He also has bipolar and adhd. This month I am going to have my 2 yr old tested. She really seems to fit the criteria for aspergers and hyperlexia. I am going to ask the doc about my son as well. Have you had him tested or mentioned it to your family doc? i know when I mentioned it to my family doc he thought it was just typical sibling rivalry. I would look into having him tested, it couldn't hurt. i'll let you know what they say about mine. if you'd like feel free to email me directly.

angie

new member

Hi to all,I live in the north-east of England and have 3 children. My eldest son is 9 and i am convinced he has AS. He is due to see the consultant psych on thurs and i am wondering what will happen.My son finds it very difficult to make friends and he is now at an age where he knows that people don't want to play with him and this upsets him. His teachers say he has virtually know concentration span and is disruptive in the class. He constantly picks on and bullies his little brother (5) and does not seem to care about anyone else's feelings. He has obsessions such as play station Bond and gameboy. During a conversation he does not take turns and if someone walks off through bordom, he carries on talking and does not stop until he's finished what he needed to day even if you tell him to tell you later he just carries on and on in a monotonous tone!!I grew up with an older AS brother and i know how hard it is to put up with and i am wooried about my younger son too as he takes a hell of a lot of abuse and bullying from the elder.I can't remember my son ever telling me that he loves me or in fact wanting a kiss or a cuddle whereas my other children are very very loving to each other and everyone else!I would really appreiciate any feedback and opinions from you with more experience and look forward to hearing from someone soon. Sue

[Guest guest]

Hi Angie,

Thanks for your reply i appreciate having someone to talk/type to about this as my family is not convinced of my suspicions about my son. He too does not bully at school but i read in a book recently that some AS kids who are well behaved at school have usually used up all of thier patience and concentration and energy at being calm and well behaved at school that when they get into thier 'safe zone' i.e. home, they need to let it all out so to speak and the defenceless ones, unfortunatly for them ,get it.

My son is being seen next week by a child psychiatrist who hopefully knows alot about AS.

I am the youngest of 3 and my brother often bullied my sister and she says now that she went through hell with him and i just want to know and understand how to help both of my sons.

We are at the first rung of the very long ladder but i am hopefull that someone will help me because i am finding it very hard to cope with my eldest at the moment and he takes all of my energy and patience!

Hope to hear from you soon

Sue

new member

Hi to all,I live in the north-east of England and have 3 children. My eldest son is 9 and i am convinced he has AS. He is due to see the consultant psych on thurs and i am wondering what will happen.My son finds it very difficult to make friends and he is now at an age where he knows that people don't want to play with him and this upsets him. His teachers say he has virtually know concentration span and is disruptive in the class. He constantly picks on and bullies his little brother (5) and does not seem to care about anyone else's feelings. He has obsessions such as play station Bond and gameboy. During a conversation he does not take turns and if someone walks off through bordom, he carries on talking and does not stop until he's finished what he needed to day even if you tell him to tell you later he just carries on and on in a monotonous tone!!I grew up with an older AS brother and i know how hard it is to put up with and i am wooried about my younger son too as he takes a hell of a lot of abuse and bullying from the elder.I can't remember my son ever telling me that he loves me or in fact wanting a kiss or a cuddle whereas my other children are very very loving to each other and everyone else!I would really appreiciate any feedback and opinions from you with more experience and look forward to hearing from someone soon. Sue

[Guest guest]

I know how that feels! My sister is great but my mom is not so convinced something is not "typical"about my dtr. They live 3 hours from me and she doesn't see the day to day difficulties she has. Do you have anyone in your family to lean on? A friend? If you do lean on that person instead! It really helps to have someone to talk to. Even finding a local support group is a good way to find someone in your area to call up and talk to after a rough day. I've found the best thing to do before an appt is to make a list before you go to the doc, that way you don't walk out and remember 10 symptoms or questions you forgot to tell them. Hang in there! Let me know how it all goes.

new member

Hi to all,I live in the north-east of England and have 3 children. My eldest son is 9 and i am convinced he has AS. He is due to see the consultant psych on thurs and i am wondering what will happen.My son finds it very difficult to make friends and he is now at an age where he knows that people don't want to play with him and this upsets him. His teachers say he has virtually know concentration span and is disruptive in the class. He constantly picks on and bullies his little brother (5) and does not seem to care about anyone else's feelings. He has obsessions such as play station Bond and gameboy. During a conversation he does not take turns and if someone walks off through bordom, he carries on talking and does not stop until he's finished what he needed to day even if you tell him to tell you later he just carries on and on in a monotonous tone!!I grew up with an older AS brother and i know how hard it is to put up with and i am wooried about my younger son too as he takes a hell of a lot of abuse and bullying from the elder.I can't remember my son ever telling me that he loves me or in fact wanting a kiss or a cuddle whereas my other children are very very loving to each other and everyone else!I would really appreiciate any feedback and opinions from you with more experience and look forward to hearing from someone soon. Sue

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Sue,

Welcome to the group. I'm pulling for your son. We have a 7 year old daughter with probable AS. She has her obsessions. Loses interest in board games. She's good with her sisters though, interaction with "friends"/playmates is mostly one-sided. She has occasional meltdowns, but in general she's a happy kid.

Theresa

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003 12:42:02 -0000 "sue_adam2003 writes:

Hi to all,I live in the north-east of England and have 3 children. My eldest son is 9 and i am convinced he has AS. He is due to see the consultant psych on thurs and i am wondering what will happen.My son finds it very difficult to make friends and he is now at an age where he knows that people don't want to play with him and this upsets him. His teachers say he has virtually know concentration span and is disruptive in the class. He constantly picks on and bullies his little brother (5) and does not seem to care about anyone else's feelings. He has obsessions such as play station Bond and gameboy. During a conversation he does not take turns and if someone walks off through bordom, he carries on talking and does not stop until he's finished what he needed to day even if you tell him to tell you later he just carries on and on in a monotonous tone!!I grew up with an older AS brother and i know how hard it is to put up with and i am wooried about my younger son too as he takes a hell of a lot of abuse and bullying from the elder.I can't remember my son ever telling me that he loves me or in fact wanting a kiss or a cuddle whereas my other children are very very loving to each other and everyone else!I would really appreiciate any feedback and opinions from you with more experience and look forward to hearing from someone soon. Sue

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JD:

Welcome aboard JD, I have a very good friend in NYC named JD, who is

a famous Jazz musician!

1970! Wow! There really are quite a few long time Bullworker owners

out there.

The Bullworker Model I,II, & III are slightly different than the X5,

inasmuch as the X5 has the bouble strap which allows for some

more " extended " exercises.

Apparently the spring action on the X5 is smoother but doesn't

provide quite as much resistance as there is on some of the older

model Bullworkers, however that doesn't seem to stop or hinder most

X5 owners.

I have heard that some Bullworker owners say they prefer the greater

resistance of the older Bullworkers.

I guess it really is a question of personal preference.

Knowing what I know now, I'd go first go shopping for a Bullworker X5

on eBay, Pennysaver, Garage and lawn sales, pawn shops, etc... and

fix it up.

The main caveat to buying any second-hand Bullworker is to really

thoroughly check the springs and the cables to make sure that the

springs and cables are still good, and that the " action " is still

good.

Then, if I didn't find a Bullworker in perfect " mint " condition, I'd

then go and buy a new one. I actuall bought a new X5 and I'm quite

satisfied with it, but 20-20 hindsight - I suspect that I would have

been just as happy if I had found a " mint " used Bullworker X5.

The socalled " new " Bullworker X5 has been around for almost 20+ years

and really hasn't changed all that much and there are plenty of them

out there.

Why don't you download the X5 manual from our files section and see

which exercises will work on your older model...

I confess to a certain curiosity and interest to actually try out an

older Bullworker and compare which works best, as I've heard

different opinions on the subject from other Bullworker owners.

I really think it's a question of personal taste and requirements.

Please let us know how it works out for you.

All the best,

Tony

> Hi

> I live in California and am 58 years old. I use the Bullworker to

> supplement strength training for my main sport: competitive rowing.

>

> I bought my unit when it was called a " Tensolator " in 1970 from a

now

> defunct storefront in Queens.

>

> I'm looking forward to expanding the efficiency of the unit.

>

> Thanks

> JD