Guest guest Report post Posted March 18, 2001 , My ASD nine year old did not get HepB at birth (in fact he has never had a HepB). My NT five year old with asthma and severe allergies got a HepB at one week. I continued to vaccinate him until 9 months. He is toxic for mercury, but he never got an MMR or varicella vaccine. My NT 12 year old got one Hep B at 7 years old. He had only one MMR and he has a high titer to measles. One scenario that has crossed my mind is that mercury depresses the immune system and then the MMR or another virus or viral vaccine ( HepB, EBV, CMV, HHV6, varicella) that occurs during the immuno-suppression might cause the immune system to go into overdrive in an effort to suppress that virus and sometime it gets stuck there. It might be important to look at the vaccine schedule to see when HepB, varicella, or MMR vaccine started to be administered along with or closely following a mercury containing vaccine. In the Midwest as late as 1991, they were not giving Hep B or varicella and the MMR was given at 15 months with no vaccines being given between 6 and 15 months. Perhaps a certain number of kids are extraordinarily susceptible to mercury and this alone might cause them to develop autism and maybe an additional group of kids have immune systems that cannot handle the simultaneous administration of M, M, and R, but perhaps a much, much larger number of children cannot handle the combination of the two--mercury and MMR (or another viral vaccine or viral infection). It was the 5th DPT given too close to HHV6 that caused Evan's regression, but his 3rd DPT and exposure to his brother's chicken pox the next week brought on the severe allergies and chronic ear infections. Evan also finished a round of antibiotics the just before his 4th DPT at 18 months (for the ear infection that followed the MMR which was given at 17 months because Evan was sick at 15 months). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 30, 2002 They're trying to catch all the one's who didn't get contaminated at birth or else their admitting that it didn't make sense to give it then because it has worn off by now... S On Wed, 30 January 2002, Kenney wrote: > > <html><body> > > > <tt> > I too am confused about their rationale with the Hep B regarding older<BR> > children. & nbsp; The school sent a note last year that all 7th graders are to have<BR> > it or not be able to go to school. & nbsp; My son (who was 11 at the time) is in an<BR> > all moderately autistic class. & nbsp; Now if the children in his class remain as<BR> > they are, they WILL NOT be having sex. & nbsp; So that excuse about sexually active<BR> > teens is a bunch of crap especially when you're talking about special ed<BR> > students with major problems!<BR> > <BR> > on 1/29/02 11:13 PM, C. W. at cwgeorge2@... wrote:<BR> > <BR> > & gt; The idiots in their collective money grubbing greed believe that these little<BR> > & gt; angels will be sexually active teens and so must be poisoned now so they will<BR> > & gt; not get Hep B. That's like saying all Arabic speaking people are terrorist. At<BR> > & gt; least that's one explanation rational for this action.<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; When dealing with anything of this nature there is wisdom of experience known<BR> > & gt; as objective findings that as parents you know as fact and there is the<BR> > & gt; subjective I think you need this to protect this child which is to say I think<BR> > & gt; but I don't know, but the pharmaceutical detail people ($ales people) assured<BR> > & gt; me this is the way to go and these $hots are needed because they $aid $o.<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; C. W. <BR> > & gt; RE: [ ] vaccinating siblings<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; & gt; -----Original Message-----<BR> > & gt; & gt; From: Valeri Dugan [mailto:valeri@...]<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; & gt; shots like Hep B, what's that about? & nbsp; It's for a form of hepatitis that is<BR> > & gt; & gt; only transmitted by homosexual sex or IV drug use.<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; Homosexual sex is not the only way it is sexually transmitted, heterosexual<BR> > & gt; sex will transmit it, too. But, since sex is not on the minds of most<BR> > & gt; infants still trying to figure out why they suddenly weigh so much in this<BR> > & gt; world of air...<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; Tana<BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; <BR> > & gt; Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 17, 2003 In a message dated 4/14/03 1:39:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, lberr17319@... writes: > > I had to chime in on this one, my son was given the Hep B at about two days > old, then a nurse came to me and said they weren't sure if they had given > him the shot and what did I want them to do. I told her not to give him > another one don't you have to sign something when they give the shot? angela Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 18, 2003 Supposed to, but they often slip it in when you're filling in all the admission paperwork or while you're in the throes of labor or exhausted from the birth. Someone this list posted that they were requested to sign AFTER the fact. S <tt> In a message dated 4/14/03 1:39:34 PM Pacific Daylight Time, <BR> lberr17319@... writes:<BR> <BR> > <BR> > I had to chime in on this one, my son was given the Hep B at about two days <BR> > old, then a nurse came to me and said they weren't sure if they had given <BR> > him the shot and what did I want them to do. I told her not to give him <BR> > another one <BR> don't you have to sign something when they give the shot?<BR> angela<BR> <BR> <BR> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 10, 2010 wow ! Thanks Bill! We've always suspected that Hep B might have 'compromised' 's immune system. He recd it the day after he was born ... :-( doris land Posted by: " Bill klimas " klimas_bill@... <mailto:klimas_bill@...?Subject=%20Re%3ANew%20study%20on%20Hep%20vaccine> klimas_bill <klimas_bill> Tue Nov 9, 2010 9:14 am (PST) This just came out http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170 <http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21058170> Connor falls into this group. Bill Abstract Universal hepatitis B vaccination was recommended for U.S. newborns in 1991; however, safety findings are mixed. The association between hepatitis B vaccination of male neonates and parental report of autism diagnosis was determined. This cross-sectional study used weighted probability samples obtained from National Health Interview Survey 1997-2002 data sets. Vaccination status was determined from the vaccination record. Logistic regression was used to estimate the odds for autism diagnosis associated with neonatal hepatitis B vaccination among boys age 3-17 years, born before 1999, adjusted for race, maternal education, and two-parent household. Boys vaccinated as neonates had threefold greater odds for autism diagnosis compared to boys never vaccinated or vaccinated after the first month of life. Non-Hispanic white boys were 64% less likely to have autism diagnosis relative to nonwhite boys. Findings suggest that U.S. male neonates vaccinated with the hepatitis B vaccine prior to 1999 (from vaccination record) had a threefold higher risk for parental report of autism diagnosis compared to boys not vaccinated as neonates during that same time period. Nonwhite boys bore a greater risk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
