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Hi Debra:

Although your message is to , I was interested in what you were saying

about your doctor's treatment of you regarding pain. You also seem very

knowledgeable about pain issues so I wondered if I could ask a question. I am a

chronic pain patient and my illnesses are panhypopituitarism (endocrine system

failure), fibromyalgia, heart valve disease, osteoporosis, GERD and IBS. I've

had to take pain meds for several years and for the earlier years I was taking

Ultram and it worked fairly well for quite awhile. About 3-4 years ago, the

Ultram no longer worked and my pain also increased a great deal. So my doctor

reluctantly had me take hydrocodone instead. I started out taking 3 tablets per

day in the beginning and as time passed and pain increased, the dosage was

raised. Three months ago, I was prescribed hydrocodone (10mg.), 8 times per

day. This means I have to set the clock to be sure to wake up every three hours

to take the meds although I actually wake up FROM the pain before the alarm

sounds. I also take a muscle relaxant (Zanaflex) to help with pain also because

the hydrocodone is barely taking away anything. The Zanaflex makes me nearly

comatose with sleepiness so I had to say goodbye to going out anywhere because I

fall asleep no matter where I am. I haven't been able to drive for a couple of

years and I had to leave my job (financial manager) and go on disability two

years ago. I'm trying to be optimistic about the pain because I'm hoping that

some day someone will invent something that will help over the long term.

I really feel some despair today because yesterday a friend of mine went to the

pharmacy to pick up my month's supply of pain pills and when I got them there

was only enough for 20 days instead of 30 like I usually receive. Later my

friend went by the pharmacy and asked about the discrepancy and the pharmacist

said that he thought the doctor was trying to keep me from becoming an addict.

I had no idea that the doctor was thinking I was addicted to anything and he

didn't say a word about it when I saw him a month ago. I'm thinking that I'd be

better off stopping the medication like you said that you had done. How long

does it take to stop this medication? I have so much to cope with right now

that I'd rather be in terrible pain than have someone believe that I'm addicted

to pills. I've read on the Internet that the DEA is going to start tracking the

meds of all pain patients very soon and that is another motivation to be rid of

this medication. I've been really sick from my failed pituitary gland and will

be going to a specialist in Boston next month because my endocrine hormones are

totally out of kilter. I'm also in the middle of a marital crisis (his

infidelity) and we go to counseling twice a week which has been very painful and

scary. So if I get rid of the turmoil of the pain meds, I'll have one less

problem to cope with. I just need to know what to expect upon stopping them. I

have such great insurance and nearly 100% coverage for meds but I can't see what

good that is doing me.

Thanks for any help you can give me on this. Take care.

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Hi Debra:

Although your message is to , I was interested in what you were saying

about your doctor's treatment of you regarding pain. You also seem very

knowledgeable about pain issues so I wondered if I could ask a question. I am a

chronic pain patient and my illnesses are panhypopituitarism (endocrine system

failure), fibromyalgia, heart valve disease, osteoporosis, GERD and IBS. I've

had to take pain meds for several years and for the earlier years I was taking

Ultram and it worked fairly well for quite awhile. About 3-4 years ago, the

Ultram no longer worked and my pain also increased a great deal. So my doctor

reluctantly had me take hydrocodone instead. I started out taking 3 tablets per

day in the beginning and as time passed and pain increased, the dosage was

raised. Three months ago, I was prescribed hydrocodone (10mg.), 8 times per

day. This means I have to set the clock to be sure to wake up every three hours

to take the meds although I actually wake up FROM the pain before the alarm

sounds. I also take a muscle relaxant (Zanaflex) to help with pain also because

the hydrocodone is barely taking away anything. The Zanaflex makes me nearly

comatose with sleepiness so I had to say goodbye to going out anywhere because I

fall asleep no matter where I am. I haven't been able to drive for a couple of

years and I had to leave my job (financial manager) and go on disability two

years ago. I'm trying to be optimistic about the pain because I'm hoping that

some day someone will invent something that will help over the long term.

I really feel some despair today because yesterday a friend of mine went to the

pharmacy to pick up my month's supply of pain pills and when I got them there

was only enough for 20 days instead of 30 like I usually receive. Later my

friend went by the pharmacy and asked about the discrepancy and the pharmacist

said that he thought the doctor was trying to keep me from becoming an addict.

I had no idea that the doctor was thinking I was addicted to anything and he

didn't say a word about it when I saw him a month ago. I'm thinking that I'd be

better off stopping the medication like you said that you had done. How long

does it take to stop this medication? I have so much to cope with right now

that I'd rather be in terrible pain than have someone believe that I'm addicted

to pills. I've read on the Internet that the DEA is going to start tracking the

meds of all pain patients very soon and that is another motivation to be rid of

this medication. I've been really sick from my failed pituitary gland and will

be going to a specialist in Boston next month because my endocrine hormones are

totally out of kilter. I'm also in the middle of a marital crisis (his

infidelity) and we go to counseling twice a week which has been very painful and

scary. So if I get rid of the turmoil of the pain meds, I'll have one less

problem to cope with. I just need to know what to expect upon stopping them. I

have such great insurance and nearly 100% coverage for meds but I can't see what

good that is doing me.

Thanks for any help you can give me on this. Take care.

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Hi Debra:

Although your message is to , I was interested in what you were saying

about your doctor's treatment of you regarding pain. You also seem very

knowledgeable about pain issues so I wondered if I could ask a question. I am a

chronic pain patient and my illnesses are panhypopituitarism (endocrine system

failure), fibromyalgia, heart valve disease, osteoporosis, GERD and IBS. I've

had to take pain meds for several years and for the earlier years I was taking

Ultram and it worked fairly well for quite awhile. About 3-4 years ago, the

Ultram no longer worked and my pain also increased a great deal. So my doctor

reluctantly had me take hydrocodone instead. I started out taking 3 tablets per

day in the beginning and as time passed and pain increased, the dosage was

raised. Three months ago, I was prescribed hydrocodone (10mg.), 8 times per

day. This means I have to set the clock to be sure to wake up every three hours

to take the meds although I actually wake up FROM the pain before the alarm

sounds. I also take a muscle relaxant (Zanaflex) to help with pain also because

the hydrocodone is barely taking away anything. The Zanaflex makes me nearly

comatose with sleepiness so I had to say goodbye to going out anywhere because I

fall asleep no matter where I am. I haven't been able to drive for a couple of

years and I had to leave my job (financial manager) and go on disability two

years ago. I'm trying to be optimistic about the pain because I'm hoping that

some day someone will invent something that will help over the long term.

I really feel some despair today because yesterday a friend of mine went to the

pharmacy to pick up my month's supply of pain pills and when I got them there

was only enough for 20 days instead of 30 like I usually receive. Later my

friend went by the pharmacy and asked about the discrepancy and the pharmacist

said that he thought the doctor was trying to keep me from becoming an addict.

I had no idea that the doctor was thinking I was addicted to anything and he

didn't say a word about it when I saw him a month ago. I'm thinking that I'd be

better off stopping the medication like you said that you had done. How long

does it take to stop this medication? I have so much to cope with right now

that I'd rather be in terrible pain than have someone believe that I'm addicted

to pills. I've read on the Internet that the DEA is going to start tracking the

meds of all pain patients very soon and that is another motivation to be rid of

this medication. I've been really sick from my failed pituitary gland and will

be going to a specialist in Boston next month because my endocrine hormones are

totally out of kilter. I'm also in the middle of a marital crisis (his

infidelity) and we go to counseling twice a week which has been very painful and

scary. So if I get rid of the turmoil of the pain meds, I'll have one less

problem to cope with. I just need to know what to expect upon stopping them. I

have such great insurance and nearly 100% coverage for meds but I can't see what

good that is doing me.

Thanks for any help you can give me on this. Take care.

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Kathy wrote: >>...the pharmacist said that he thought the

doctor was trying to keep me from becoming an addict. I had no idea

that the doctor was thinking I was addicted to anything and he didn't

say a word about it when I saw him a month ago. I'm thinking that

I'd be better off stopping the medication like you said that you had

done. <<

Hi ,

Don't go off your meds without talking to your doctor!

Don't fret about your doctor thinking your are an addict until he

tells you that's what he's thinking. The pharmacist had no idea why

your doctor wrote your prescription for only 20 pills because doctors

don't write explanations like this on prescriptions. He was hazarding

a guess off the top of his head. Maybe this particular pharmacist

doesn't know you and the chronic nature of your condition. He may

have thought you were taking it for a sprained wrist, or who knows

what.

Perhaps your doctor made a " typo " on the prescription. I used to be a

pharmacist and I saw this all the time; you would not believe the

mistakes I saw on prescriptions, from quantities and dosages all the

way up to getting the patient's name wrong.

I think going completely off your meds is something that you MUST do

under the supervision of a doctor, like Maxine is doing. You could

get yourself into real trouble if you do it on your own. Please don't!

Take care and be careful,

Di

in Vancouver, B.C., Canada

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