Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I've been reading on this forum, and I have been thinking that my son may have viral problems (regressed after MMR). I asked my DAN if he could do a test to see what viruses my son has and he sent me to a holistic person that did this hokey thing with a computer that stated he has no viruses except HIV. This would be really bad news for us, but she kept saying this isn't diagnoistic. Basically I don't think it worked. I was thinking an actual medical test that would show me if my son has viruses and which ones. Could anyone give me some information on that?>Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! Learn More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 I can't believe she actually told you that and then said it's not diagnostic! Then what's the point?!?!?!? Yes, there are tests. You want to pull viral titers. Pull HHV1-6 and any vaccine titers you want to pull. Your reg. ped can order the test if willing, otherwise, I would ask your DAN to order the blood work and make sure you are clear that you want it done and not to see this same person again that told you your son has HIV but then says it's not diagnostic. Obviously you want something diagnostic!CherylI've been reading on this forum, and I have been thinking that my son may have viral problems (regressed after MMR). I asked my DAN if he could do a test to see what viruses my son has and he sent me to a holistic person that did this hokey thing with a computer that stated he has no viruses except HIV. This would be really bad news for us, but she kept saying this isn't diagnoistic. Basically I don't think it worked. I was thinking an actual medical test that would show me if my son has viruses and which ones. Could anyone give me some information on that?>Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! Learn More Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 Thanks, My DAN asked why I'd want to know about viruses. Thats when I realized I have probably researched too much:) Thanks I'll ask him to do that next time. Are virastop, valtrex catch all type things for all viruses? Or do you do specific things depending on which viruses you find? Thanks To: mb12 valtrex From: c.lowrance@...Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:58:32 -0700Subject: Re: Test for viruses I can't believe she actually told you that and then said it's not diagnostic! Then what's the point?!?!?!? Yes, there are tests. You want to pull viral titers. Pull HHV1-6 and any vaccine titers you want to pull. Your reg. ped can order the test if willing, otherwise, I would ask your DAN to order the blood work and make sure you are clear that you want it done and not to see this same person again that told you your son has HIV but then says it's not diagnostic. Obviously you want something diagnostic! Cheryl I've been reading on this forum, and I have been thinking that my son may have viral problems (regressed after MMR). I asked my DAN if he could do a test to see what viruses my son has and he sent me to a holistic person that did this hokey thing with a computer that stated he has no viruses except HIV. This would be really bad news for us, but she kept saying this isn't diagnoistic. Basically I don't think it worked. I was thinking an actual medical test that would show me if my son has viruses and which ones. Could anyone give me some information on that?> Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! Learn More Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! Try it Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2008 Report Share Posted June 25, 2008 If your DAN doesn't know about viruses, it's not that you research too much, you simply need a new DAN.Valtrex really only works on the HHV viruses and I'm not sure about Virastop. There are different things for different viruses. High dose Vit. A for measles, etc.CherylThanks,My DAN asked why I'd want to know about viruses. Thats when I realized I have probably researched too much:)Thanks I'll ask him to do that next time. Are virastop, valtrex catch all type things for all viruses? Or do you do specific things depending on which viruses you find? ThanksTo: mb12 valtrex From: c.lowranceca (DOT) rr.comDate: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 16:58:32 -0700Subject: Re: Test for virusesI can't believe she actually told you that and then said it's not diagnostic! Then what's the point?!?!?!? Yes, there are tests. You want to pull viral titers. Pull HHV1-6 and any vaccine titers you want to pull. Your reg. ped can order the test if willing, otherwise, I would ask your DAN to order the blood work and make sure you are clear that you want it done and not to see this same person again that told you your son has HIV but then says it's not diagnostic. Obviously you want something diagnostic!CherylI've been reading on this forum, and I have been thinking that my son may have viral problems (regressed after MMR). I asked my DAN if he could do a test to see what viruses my son has and he sent me to a holistic person that did this hokey thing with a computer that stated he has no viruses except HIV. This would be really bad news for us, but she kept saying this isn't diagnoistic. Basically I don't think it worked. I was thinking an actual medical test that would show me if my son has viruses and which ones. Could anyone give me some information on that?>Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! Learn MoreIntroducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! Try it Now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Interesting - we are doing just the opposite seeing if we can avoid chelation all together by doing antivirals to bring the immune system under control so the antifungals will work and then the metals dump neturally without chelation and its potential side effects...Di > > I only feel comfortable starting one thing at a time. Our DAN! suggested starting chelation first and then adding in the Valtrex at a later date.once we feel " comfortable " with the chelation and see what kind of effect it is having on our daughter. I know we will do the anti- virals at some point in the near future. I guess my real question is if I should be more alarmed about her high rubella IGG than my doctor seems to be. > > Thanks for your responses. > > -Susie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Interesting - we are doing just the opposite seeing if we can avoid chelation all together by doing antivirals to bring the immune system under control so the antifungals will work and then the metals dump neturally without chelation and its potential side effects...Di > > I only feel comfortable starting one thing at a time. Our DAN! suggested starting chelation first and then adding in the Valtrex at a later date.once we feel " comfortable " with the chelation and see what kind of effect it is having on our daughter. I know we will do the anti- virals at some point in the near future. I guess my real question is if I should be more alarmed about her high rubella IGG than my doctor seems to be. > > Thanks for your responses. > > -Susie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Susie I just saw this...I think an elevated titer like that definately indicates an issue - the titers should not be elevated, per G. And he looks at other immune issues too. The probelm with chelation if there is a viral issue, per him, is that the body is not dumping metals BC of the viral issues...so even if you stress and traumatize the body with chelation, and dump metals, if there is a viral reaon your kiddo is sick...they will simply creep back in and up again...and then you have gone through all that - or rather your child has - for what? It is like giving a masectomy, but not addressing any tumors or the CANCER in the body that nec the breast being removed...the problem is going to manifest somehwere else in the body bc the cancer reamins there to make the person sick...Di--- In mb12 valtrex , " joans_java " wrote: > > I have friends who have chelated for years and still are not > finished! Why can't you chelate and do the anti-viral protocol? Also, > have you had testosterone checked? If testosterone is elevated then > (according to another study) mercury will be bound to the > testosterone. You might want to have that checked too. > From what I am reading, our kids immune systems are compromised and > it seems like it is a domino effect. This one thing makes that one > thing not work and that one thing is knocking the functioning out of > all the rest! > But I have met people who only chelate and do nothing else. Their > kids are not fully recovered and it tells me that there is something > else holding onto the heavy metals. It could be viral related? > Try another doctor if you don't get your answers. Go with your > MOMA/Poppa GUT. > > > > > > HI everyone, > > > > > > > > I posted this question on another group, but didn't get much of a > response. You all seem quite knowledgeable about viruses. So, I > thought I would try here. > > > > > > > > > > My daughter is 4 years old. We have been working with various DAN! > doctors for the past year or so. Back in Sept. '07 we put her on a > strict yeast free diet. She got very sick from the die off and ended > up with bronchitis which led to a round of zythromiacin per the > recommendation of our pediatrician. On her 3 rd day of the > zythromiacin, she had an allergic reaction...hives. We took her to > the pediatrician who also noticed spots that were round and looked > like a virus. When we treated her w/ benadryl, the hives disappeared, > but the viral spots stayed for a bit. I didn't think anything of it > until the past few months as I've been doing more reading on viruses. > Now I'm wondering if she has some viral issues that we are not aware > of. We have never done any anti-virals with her. She does seem to > always be battling a bacteria issue. We had her titers drawn a few > months ago. Her rubella IGG came back at 150iuml. The reference range > is that 10 iu/ml is high. Our DAN! doctor didn't bat an eye over this > result. When I mentioned the above story he said he recommends a > Valtrex trial fpr 6 weeks. We plan to chelate as well using the AC > protocol. So, he suggested we start that first and introduce the > Valtrex later. Any ideas or thoghts? This is all very confusing! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Susie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2008 Report Share Posted June 29, 2008 Susie I just saw this...I think an elevated titer like that definately indicates an issue - the titers should not be elevated, per G. And he looks at other immune issues too. The probelm with chelation if there is a viral issue, per him, is that the body is not dumping metals BC of the viral issues...so even if you stress and traumatize the body with chelation, and dump metals, if there is a viral reaon your kiddo is sick...they will simply creep back in and up again...and then you have gone through all that - or rather your child has - for what? It is like giving a masectomy, but not addressing any tumors or the CANCER in the body that nec the breast being removed...the problem is going to manifest somehwere else in the body bc the cancer reamins there to make the person sick...Di--- In mb12 valtrex , " joans_java " wrote: > > I have friends who have chelated for years and still are not > finished! Why can't you chelate and do the anti-viral protocol? Also, > have you had testosterone checked? If testosterone is elevated then > (according to another study) mercury will be bound to the > testosterone. You might want to have that checked too. > From what I am reading, our kids immune systems are compromised and > it seems like it is a domino effect. This one thing makes that one > thing not work and that one thing is knocking the functioning out of > all the rest! > But I have met people who only chelate and do nothing else. Their > kids are not fully recovered and it tells me that there is something > else holding onto the heavy metals. It could be viral related? > Try another doctor if you don't get your answers. Go with your > MOMA/Poppa GUT. > > > > > > HI everyone, > > > > > > > > I posted this question on another group, but didn't get much of a > response. You all seem quite knowledgeable about viruses. So, I > thought I would try here. > > > > > > > > > > My daughter is 4 years old. We have been working with various DAN! > doctors for the past year or so. Back in Sept. '07 we put her on a > strict yeast free diet. She got very sick from the die off and ended > up with bronchitis which led to a round of zythromiacin per the > recommendation of our pediatrician. On her 3 rd day of the > zythromiacin, she had an allergic reaction...hives. We took her to > the pediatrician who also noticed spots that were round and looked > like a virus. When we treated her w/ benadryl, the hives disappeared, > but the viral spots stayed for a bit. I didn't think anything of it > until the past few months as I've been doing more reading on viruses. > Now I'm wondering if she has some viral issues that we are not aware > of. We have never done any anti-virals with her. She does seem to > always be battling a bacteria issue. We had her titers drawn a few > months ago. Her rubella IGG came back at 150iuml. The reference range > is that 10 iu/ml is high. Our DAN! doctor didn't bat an eye over this > result. When I mentioned the above story he said he recommends a > Valtrex trial fpr 6 weeks. We plan to chelate as well using the AC > protocol. So, he suggested we start that first and introduce the > Valtrex later. Any ideas or thoghts? This is all very confusing! > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Susie > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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