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I think I mentioned this in a private message along this way but not open on

the list. Hubby and I have tried numerous positions. I have to admit that

neither he nor I were saints when we first got together.

I think for me it is mostly because I have so many joints that are messed up

that no matter what I try, is painful especially if I have forgotten my meds

as I have done recently. His conquering attitude has gotten much better

after a long arguement we had a short time back. I told him I was no prize

to be won over and I wasn't a @#$@! either. I told him he had a choice,

either be patient, or find someone else. It must have sunk in because he

has been much better about it since then. I was really hurting though when

I let him hold it.

He has been much better lately. I still hope his doctor will start him on

an anti-depressant at his next appointment.

I do have good news about my friend who tried to take her life a few days

after my aunt passed away. I spoke with her again yesterday and she sounded

terrific! She said that she was feeling better. Her sugar levels were

better. Her husband stopped by earlier that morning and picked up three

bills he was going to pay, gave her grocery money, and brought her

breakfast. He also told her he was on a new medication that was an

anti-depressant and that he was being honest with his doctor about his

physical abuse. He didn't push the " do you love me " or " can I come back

home " crap either. He was very sincere and seemed to be truly committed to

his therapy right now. She seems to be the same way. I am hoping they can

work it out because when he is not being abusive or hateful, he can be a

good man. His biggest problem was that he was blaming his parents for his

adult-life. My friend flat told him that I, talking about me, grew up in

much worse circumstances than he would ever imagine and that I didn't treat

my family as he had treated them. This seemed to really hit him hard. He

went to his therapist and sure enough, the therapist told him that this

behavior had to be stopped at some point during a generation or it would

continue on. I swore it would stop with me and thank the Gods, Deities, and

Supreme Beings that it has stopped with me. Even my brother is a calm and

gentle man when both of us could have grown up to be alcoholic, abusive to

our children and to our spouses, and lost everything we ever dreamed up and

everything we have built so far in our lives. I am so proud of my friend.

I wish I could get her to get some time to come over for a while so we could

talk but with her schedule with the kids, I know it is hard. We both also

have to work between her chronic pain and my chronic pain so that makes

things even harder.

Sex is also a big issue with her husband as well. Part of it is his

domineering ways and I think also part of it is his age which goes back to

the mid-life crisis and/or mid-life male menopause we have all been talking

about.

A big problem in my life is that I cannot sleep on our mattress on our bed.

I have tried every bed in the house and there are three of them. All three

have too hard or uncomfortable mattresses. I sleep on the couch and have

done so for the past 7 to 8 years. It is really soft. I have thought about

talking with my doctor and the home medical supply company about something

softer that would be better for my back and joints but haven't got that far

yet. I know they don't carry the temperpedic and right now we can't afford

it. It is sad that we have a high-dollar mattress and I can't sleep on it.

After about 30 minutes to an hour I have to get up, sometimes sooner than

that because it just causes my bones to ache terribly. It is like the bed

has no give in it, if that makes sense.

I hope everyone else is having a better go than we are. At least we are

somewhat talking and he is somewhat listening.

BB,

Sam

The trouble with making plans for the future, even when you can see the

future, is that fate has a way of intervening and upsetting the best laid

plans of mice and men.

- Burns 1785

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Hi there,

When I first had my first spinal surgery (at the turn of the century) my

roomate got a book about sex and back injuries/surgeries. I sure wish I knew

what

the title was. That type of relationship has all but gone out the window for

us. Between a hystorectomy 10 years ago and the chronic pain it's not a

priority in my life. My husband is always making comments about this. I think

men take it personally, more so than women. It's not about him and I keep

telling him that.

I'm really angry that this is not something they tell you about when you have

a hystorectomy. I feel robbed.

My little vent.

Kathleen in Calif.

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Yes, we have found some positions that are less painful for me, but they

aren't as enjoyable in other ways. <VEG>

Maxine

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Maxine, Have you and your hubby tried other sexual positions?

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Yes, we have found some positions that are less painful for me, but they

aren't as enjoyable in other ways. <VEG>

Maxine

wrote:

Maxine, Have you and your hubby tried other sexual positions?

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