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I met with Dr. Astrid Gutsmann today and I absolutely loved her.

She looked at my previous thyroid labs:

TSH less than 0.006 (.450-4.5)

FT3 4.1 (2.0-4.4)

FT4 1.67 (0.82-1.77)

While these were when I was on synthroid and not Armour.. she said they are

fine.. she said that most docs wouldn't like the TSH.. but she liked where my

FT3 and FT4 were in the ranges. They took blood today to test my TSH and FT3/FT4

again and will call me later this week with results. She is using a compounding

pharmacy for thryoid meds currently.

She also reviewed my prior test results for hormones. She gave me a saliva

testing kit - I am to take it next week on Day 21 and mail it in. She said she

gets results in 10-14 days and will call me when they come in.

She gave me a prescription for testosterone based on the labs I currently have -

asked me to take it after my saliva collection next week.

She also gave me a sublingual DHEA - as I mentioned that I think the BioSom DHEA

is giving me headaches.

I'll keep ya'll up to date!

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I haven't seen my labs for Thyroid yet.. but I have been put on 180 compounded

natural dessicated thyroid.

I have been alternating between 240 and 180.. the 240 gave me heart palps - so I

really knew it was too much. Glad she kept me up there with the 180.

I'm very excited to start the compounded natural dessicated thryoid.

I am also going to do my saliva testing on Monday. Should have results 10-14

days after that.

So far so good............

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I hope she works out. Please keep us posted.

Kim

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I haven't seen my labs for Thyroid yet.. but I have

been put on 180 compounded natural dessicated thyroid.

I have been alternating between 240 and 180.. the 240 gave me heart palps - so

I really knew it was too much. Glad she kept me up there with the 180.

I'm very excited to start the compounded natural dessicated thryoid.

I am also going to do my saliva testing on Monday. Should have results 10-14

days after that.

So far so good............

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That sounds great!

I had acupuncture years ago in Southern California. I was very skeptical at first. But

got great results so became a believer.

Kim

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Thank you Kim!!

I also started acupuncture this week! That was a WONDERFUL experience! I can't

wait to go next week!

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Was this your first visit with this doctor?? If so, did she take the time to

sit and talk with you??

I'm new to this group and joined specifically to research doctors in my area . .

.. I live in ville. I did a search on Dr. Gutsmann and she's in ,

right?

I may give her office a call to see if she's accepting new patients. I don't

have insurance and pay for all of my appointments, so hopefully she's not too

expensive!

Glad to hear you had such a great experience!!

Ginny

>

> I met with Dr. Astrid Gutsmann today and I absolutely loved her.

>

> She looked at my previous thyroid labs:

> TSH less than 0.006 (.450-4.5)

> FT3 4.1 (2.0-4.4)

> FT4 1.67 (0.82-1.77)

>

> While these were when I was on synthroid and not Armour.. she said they are

fine.. she said that most docs wouldn't like the TSH.. but she liked where my

FT3 and FT4 were in the ranges. They took blood today to test my TSH and FT3/FT4

again and will call me later this week with results. She is using a compounding

pharmacy for thryoid meds currently.

>

> She also reviewed my prior test results for hormones. She gave me a saliva

testing kit - I am to take it next week on Day 21 and mail it in. She said she

gets results in 10-14 days and will call me when they come in.

>

> She gave me a prescription for testosterone based on the labs I currently have

- asked me to take it after my saliva collection next week.

>

> She also gave me a sublingual DHEA - as I mentioned that I think the BioSom

DHEA is giving me headaches.

>

> I'll keep ya'll up to date!

>

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I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva

test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor hasn't

reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an appointment

to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for

over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce

my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and

that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no

side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse

pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more

energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva

test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor hasn't

reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an appointment

to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for

over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce

my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and

that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no

side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse

pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more

energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva

test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor hasn't

reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an appointment

to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for

over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce

my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and

that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no

side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse

pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more

energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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Cost -

I haven't seen any claims yet - so I can't tell you what she costs.

The saliva test was $160 - which I did pay and have the paperwork to run through

insurance if I want.

I'm sure sure if she takes private pay or not, you would need to ask.

Also - my disclaimer - is that I haven't seen my labs yet - since she changed my

thyroid med, or my hormone lab results. I should be viewing those in the next

few days..

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Cost -

I haven't seen any claims yet - so I can't tell you what she costs.

The saliva test was $160 - which I did pay and have the paperwork to run through

insurance if I want.

I'm sure sure if she takes private pay or not, you would need to ask.

Also - my disclaimer - is that I haven't seen my labs yet - since she changed my

thyroid med, or my hormone lab results. I should be viewing those in the next

few days..

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That's great that you are losing weight! I hope I get to that stage soon!Sent from my iPhone

I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an appointment to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr. Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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That's great that you are losing weight! I hope I get to that stage soon!Sent from my iPhone

I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an appointment to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr. Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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That sounds nice . . . an entire hour! I have my labs since last April, so I

could bring those to talk about how I've felt and the roadblock that I've met

with my current doctor.

Keep us posted on followups please! I have one other doctor I'd like to ask

about in this area, but I'll start a new thread so that it doesn't get buried.

Oh - Is this the doctor in ? I'm assuming it is because I didn't come up

with anything else on my search and I didn't find her in our doctor database.

Thanks again!

Ginny

>

> I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

>

> I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva

test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

>

> I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor

hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an

appointment to go over the results.

>

> I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for

over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce

my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

>

> I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me -

and that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill -

no side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

>

> I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse

pill from Solaray.

>

> I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more

energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

>

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That sounds nice . . . an entire hour! I have my labs since last April, so I

could bring those to talk about how I've felt and the roadblock that I've met

with my current doctor.

Keep us posted on followups please! I have one other doctor I'd like to ask

about in this area, but I'll start a new thread so that it doesn't get buried.

Oh - Is this the doctor in ? I'm assuming it is because I didn't come up

with anything else on my search and I didn't find her in our doctor database.

Thanks again!

Ginny

>

> I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

>

> I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva

test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

>

> I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor

hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an

appointment to go over the results.

>

> I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for

over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce

my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

>

> I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me -

and that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill -

no side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

>

> I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse

pill from Solaray.

>

> I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more

energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

>

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Fantastic news! Good for you.

Kim

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Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010

9:18 AM

To:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

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Re: Loved Her!!!

I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour

appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva

test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor

hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an

appointment to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for

over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce

my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and

that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no

side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse

pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more

energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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Fantastic news! Good for you.

Kim

From:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

[mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On

Behalf Of headhunter9561

Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2010

9:18 AM

To:

Texas_Thyroid_Groups

Subject:

Re: Loved Her!!!

I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour

appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva

test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor

hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an

appointment to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for

over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce

my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and

that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no

side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse

pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more

energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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Thank you for your detailed post Grace!!

I'm glad to hear you had a nice experience too. I think I'm going to call her

office to see if she accepts patients without insurance . . . hopefully she

does!

Ginny

>

> > I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

> >

> > I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a

saliva test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday -

1/18/10.

> >

> > I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor

hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an

appointment to go over the results.

> >

> > I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on

for over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did

reduce my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated

Armour.

> >

> > I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me -

and that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no

side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr.

Owens.

> >

> > I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast

Cleanse pill from Solaray.

> >

> > I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS..

more energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

> >

> >

>

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I got the Yeast Cleanse recommendation from Dr. MOM.. LOL..

I keep getting this seborrheic dermatitis.. and by its very definition it's

yeast based.. " Seborrhea is a chronic inflammatory skin disorder that affects

the areas of the head and trunk that have sebaceous glands. A type of yeast that

has an affinity for these glands called Pityrosporum ovale may be the cause, but

this has not been proven yet. "

So I thought.. what the heck.. I'll try it..

I used Oil of Oregano as a topical.. and took Yeast Cleanse.. It's all gone..

all of it.. No more spots, no more itching..

So I honestly cannot say what is making me feel better.. because of course, I

changed everything at once.

I've had 3 acupuncture treatments now, I started compounded Armour and I started

the Yeast Cleanse..

I'm not sure what/who to thank.. but hey.. it's working!

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Grace - I forgot.. I'm glad that you liked her too..

Sometimes I don't even want to mention a doctor on here for fear that everyone

will pounce on me!

I was hesistant to put her name on here - but I felt that if she could help

others then I would be selfish to keep her all to myself!

Glad to hear that so far her views align with yours. Did she say why she

decreased your progesterone?

She told me that the progsterone Dr. Owens had me on was too low - it was 1%

cream - at least thats too low for trying to have babies..

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The main reason for the creation of the state groups was to be able to share information about doctors and other local resources.

If you think some information is too sensitive to post, please send it to a moderator by private email. There is also the Database, where you can evaluate the docs you have seen for thyroid: The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. . . .We only ask that you wait until you have seen them several times before you make a positive recommendation.

>> Grace - I forgot.. I'm glad that you liked her too..> > Sometimes I don't even want to mention a doctor on here for fear that everyone will pounce on me! > > I was hesistant to put her name on here - but I felt that if she could help others then I would be selfish to keep her all to myself!> > Glad to hear that so far her views align with yours. Did she say why she decreased your progesterone? > > She told me that the progsterone Dr. Owens had me on was too low - it was 1% cream - at least thats too low for trying to have babies..>

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Not too sensitive to report.. simply that my idea of a good doctor and others'

might be different..

The meds I feel good on might not help someone else. That's all.

So I am hesistant to put my name on someone.. for fear that another person would

have a different experience than I have.

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What is the doctors firstname?Sent from my iPhone

I also went to see Dr. Gutsmann. I met with her on Tuesday for about an hour - maybe more. I also loved her! My favorite thing about her is how healthy she appears! She is thin and energetic and her skin is smooth and glowing and her hair is thick and natural. I was very impressed. She was also very excited to hear I knew about bio-identical hormones and saliva testing. She said most of her patients don't know anything about them so she spends time explaining. In my case I had recent thyroid labs from December just prior to switching to ERFA. She wanted to wait a few more weeks to get a stable read on how I'm doing on ERFA and will then look at treating thyroid. We did go over my old test results, both saliva and blood, for sex hormones. I had very recent progesterone and estrogen results (from 5 days prior to that appointment) and she felt comfortable

using that to prescribe a very low dose progesterone cream based on my prior history and experience using such from Dr. Owens. She gave me a lower dose than Dr. O and sent me to the Family Drug pharmacy to pick it up. I have only used it once because I was at day 26 in my cycle when I saw her, but I liked the progesterone cream. It didn't stink like some I've used and it rubbed in easily. I was also impressed that she took the time to explain I needed to rotate the place on my body where I apply the cream so that the progesterone doesn't build up in the fatty cells. I had read about that and was planning to ask her, but she addressed it first.She is also testing Testosterone and DHEA (blood) based on my prior results. I did not have recent tests for those. I don't have results from those yet. In fact, I didn't end up getting my blood drawn that day because her nurses were

unable to do it. That was the only really disappointing part of the visit. I think they tried to go in too slowly and then they couldn't get it. I just about passed out. I have easy veins and was surprised they had trouble. That had never happened before. Other than that, it was great!I am going to send my husband to see her, too! I will continue to let you know how it goes. She seems very competent and caring and I couldn't be happier to feel I finally have a good local dr. for my hormones! (She found it interesting that I heard of her through a yahoo group where we help each other find good doctors.)Kim, did she suggest the Yeast Cleanse pill? I have a spot that flares up on my inner elbow and have a topical cream for it, but I wonder if I should ask her about another approach.Thanks so much for posting about her

and your experience there!! I'm excited that you are feeling so well!Grace

I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an appointment to go over the results.

I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated Armour.

I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr. Owens.

I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse pill from Solaray.

I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

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You're welcome, Ginny. I can relate to Kim's comment about being nervous to post details, but not because they are too sensitive. More that I don't want to attract the wrong type of attention to a good doctor. HOWEVER, if Kim had not posted, I would not have known about her. I think it is so important that we help each other find good, reasonable doctors we can trust. I'm glad we have this forum in which to do that.I hope you also are able to see her and have a good experience!Grace

Thank you for your detailed post Grace!!

I'm glad to hear you had a nice experience too. I think I'm going to call her office to see if she accepts patients without insurance . . . hopefully she does!

Ginny

>

> > I met with her for 1 hour.. She sets an hour appointment.

> >

> > I happened to have some old labs - so we reviewed those. She gave me a saliva test kit - I took the test on day 21 - which was just last Monday - 1/18/10.

> >

> > I've been told by her office that my results are back in - but the doctor hasn't reviewed them yet. They will phone me when she has and schedule an appointment to go over the results.

> >

> > I really really like her. I've been on the compounded Armour she put me on for over a week now and I feel GREAT. I was a little worried because we did reduce my dose, but I now realize how horrible I was feeling on the reformulated Armour.

> >

> > I have also been taking the Testosterone cream that she prescribed for me - and that has helped out a lot also. She also gave me a sublingual DHEA pill - no side effects - I was getting headaches from the DHEA that I received from Dr. Owens.

> >

> > I was suffering from a yeast skin thingie, so I started taking a Yeast Cleanse pill from Solaray.

> >

> > I don't know what is causing it, but I feel better than I have in YEARS.. more energy.. and I have lost about 5 pounds in the past 2 weeks!

> >

> >

>

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