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In a message dated 4/20/2004 2:51:45 PM Central Standard Time,

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Dr. K started her on Calcium IV's and she is taking 4000 mg. of oral

calcium a day. Her labs values came up and they stopped the

IV's....but at the labs just before the last meeting her calcium

levels had crashed again. This struggle will go on for awhile.

When we become deficient it takes time to rebuild and stabilize.

She now has osteoporosis. She States she can't even begin to

describe how much pain she is in constantly with muscle and joint

aching. She is taking Vicodin in the evenings but just suffers

through it during the day because she can't work with the

drug " onboard " .

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Jo,

Makes me wonder if my Fibro is actually fibro, or just the damage from

the low calcium over the years from the RNY? Did she say the damage is permament

or will it get better ...or has she got to live with it every day from here

on?

I can surely comiserate with her. I am paying horribly for riding 3 rides

at the carnival Saturday. I'm walking hunched and look like an old woman

until the muscles relax enough to allow me to stand straight.

When I had mY RNY, I never was given ANY labs....Told to take one Multi

vit a day and nothing else. It's a miracle I don't have more problems than I

do....Even after a spinal compression fracture and bone spurs noone has ever

done a dexa scan....I need to ask about that.

in Bama

VBG 1982 (lost from 433lbs to 270's)

VBG -RNY1996 revision(Lost from 343 to 299)

RNY-DS revision Dec 2002 -down 135 lbs (377.7 to 242.2 and still going)

Homepage address- http://hometown.aol.com/mdl1031/myhomepage/profile.html

Many thanks to Dr. K willing to take on a 3rd timer....LOL

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> Of course, being in Texas, I was not at the support group meeting,

is

> anyone at liberty to share with me Dee's issue with calcium

> malabsorption?

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What Dee shared at the support meeting about her SEVERE calcium

deficiency:

She was diligent taking Calcium the first couple years...her labs

were great, she felt great. She then started to get haphazard about

taking it...her labs started to slip....she had calcium surrounding

her everywhere...on her desk, in the car, in her purse, by her

bed...she thought about taking calcium all the time but just didn't

quite get around to it.

Her foot started to hurt, she thought perhaps it was fractured.

They x-rayed it and it was fine...a couple weeks passed and pain

moved into her knees. She thought...gosh I'm getting old and

arthritis is really setting in. There was an emergency call for her

blood type...so she went and gave blood. By the time she got to the

office she was saying she wished they would give her back her blood

because she thought she need it....she really felt bad, weak, achy.

The next morning she couldn't get out of bed.

She was sent for lab work. When they put the band around her arm to

get the veins to pop, her arm and hand curled into a claw. When she

went back to the office she asked Dr. K what would cause that to

happen. He pushed on her arm muscles and her hand clawed up...he

tapped on her face and watched it twitch. He said she had classic

signs of severe calcium deficiency. The labs came back confirming

this.

Dr. K started her on Calcium IV's and she is taking 4000 mg. of oral

calcium a day. Her labs values came up and they stopped the

IV's....but at the labs just before the last meeting her calcium

levels had crashed again. This struggle will go on for awhile.

When we become deficient it takes time to rebuild and stabilize.

She now has osteoporosis. She States she can't even begin to

describe how much pain she is in constantly with muscle and joint

aching. She is taking Vicodin in the evenings but just suffers

through it during the day because she can't work with the

drug " onboard " .

Dee said she was sharing her story with us because she loved us too

much and didn't want any of us to suffer her same fate. She said it

was her own fault, and it is so easy to prevent...just be diligent

with taking your calcium....everyday....for life. Lesson....just

because you feel good and get a good lab returned it does not mean

you can skimp on taking your required supplements.

This was the jist of what Dee said...It really is too bad every

single one of us couldn't be there to hear her story...it made quite

an impact.

Dee said...if you are suffering from bone/muscle/joint pain that you

feel could be connected to calcium def. or you have any questions

about it...please let her know and she will send you a lab slip to

get your levels checked.

Hugs

Jo

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> Jo,

> Makes me wonder if my Fibro is actually fibro, or just the

damage from

> the low calcium over the years from the RNY? Did she say the

damage is permament

> or will it get better ...or has she got to live with it every day

from here

> on?

>

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Mel

She didn't say if it was permanent. She did say her symptoms

started in Dec. and by Feb. she Crashed. She also said Thank God

that she had Dr. K to turn to because her primary care told her " I

don't know what to do for you " Her levels were so low she could

have had heart failure....also, the Calcium Iv's could have caused

heart failure.

You bring up a good point about the Fibro....It will be interesting

to see what Dee's long term effects are...praying there are none,

but I have a feeling that there will be some. If I was you I

would " insist " on having a bone scan to establish a baseline to be

monitored.

Hope your feeling better soon. How long do your episodes usually

last? It has gotta suck.

Jo

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Jo...thanks for posting the information on Dee. I have been

concerned about her since the meeting in March when I first heard of

her having the IV calcium treatments.

Please, please, please everyone take your supplements, even when you

think its not necessary, or your busy, or you ran out. etc, etc.

etc......I am living proof of the dangers of low lab counts, and I am

living proof that when they get down it is such a STRUGGLE to get

your lab values back up to near normal...

Love and Hugs to all.....a

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