Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 We are on OLE for a week and I see great improvement from my son included behaviro wise, physcially healthier, speech improves a lot. Now, We switch to grapefruit seed extract ( same function like OLE), seems he reacts to grapefruit seed extract better ( less hyperactitivtiy) than OLE. But, Both OLE and grapefruit seed extract contains high phenol, make sure your little one does not have phenol intolerant or phenol sensitivity reaction. If your little one gets more hyper, develop dark circle under eyes, trouble with sleeping at night, and that show he is phenol intolerant, and you may need to cut down OLE and add phenol assist ( from Kirkman Labs) after his three meals. That is the experiecne so far. My son weighs about 70lbs, we give him 500mg OLE in the morning, another 500mg OLE at night, usually you want to start slowly and after a week gradually add more. Reidana pope wrote: I am excited to start antivirals in June. I planned to start with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and then add virastop. Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? Thanks,Sincerely, Rei Founder/Senior Loan Officer TX State Mortgage Broker License #75036 TX State Loan Officer License #65838 Miles Funding LLC Rethink Vaccines. Reverse Autism. 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: www.gomilesfunding.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Thanks, Rei. I will order No Phenol from Houstons. Both my boys weigh about 36 pounds and do have phenol sensitivities. Dana and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 yearsCeliac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder I am excited to start antivirals in June. I planned to start with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and then add virastop. Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? Thanks, Sincerely, Rei Founder/Senior Loan Officer TX State Mortgage Broker License #75036 TX State Loan Officer License #65838 Miles Funding LLC Rethink Vaccines. Reverse Autism. 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: www.gomilesfunding. com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I would start with OLE. I've never tried Virastop with my son. I was planning to, but we saw such phenomenal results with natural antivirals that I never saw any reason to. We started with OLE, then added grapefruit seed extract and then Sambucol. We're currently doing all of these and Valtrex and lysine and seeing some awesome gains. Good Luck! > > > > I am excited to start antivirals in June. & nbsp; I planned to start with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and then add virastop. > & nbsp; > Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? > & nbsp; > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 What is Sambucol? What do you do with it - what brand? What dosage for small children -36 pounds? Thanks,Dana and Garrett, just turned 4, SCD 2 yearsCeliac, ASD, Speech and Motor Apraxia, sensory processing disorder Subject: Re: Should we start with Virastop or OLE to begin antiviral protocol?To: mb12 valtrex Date: Saturday, May 31, 2008, 2:01 AM I would start with OLE. I've never tried Virastop with my son. I was planning to, but we saw such phenomenal results with natural antivirals that I never saw any reason to. We started with OLE, then added grapefruit seed extract and then Sambucol. We're currently doing all of these and Valtrex and lysine and seeing some awesome gains. Good Luck!>> > > I am excited to start antivirals in June. & nbsp; I planned to start with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and then add virastop.> & nbsp;> Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc?> & nbsp;> Thanks,> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 How much lysine are you giving daily??jabuaisha0929 wrote: I would start with OLE. I've never tried Virastop with my son. I was planning to, but we saw such phenomenal results with natural antivirals that I never saw any reason to. We started with OLE, then added grapefruit seed extract and then Sambucol. We're currently doing all of these and Valtrex and lysine and seeing some awesome gains. Good Luck!>> > > I am excited to start antivirals in June. & nbsp; I planned to start with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and then add virastop.> & nbsp;> Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc?> & nbsp;> Thanks,> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 I am just wondering...do people see better results and less side effects if they use OLE as oppose to Valtrex? We have our son on Valtrex and it has been a really tough week. He has really good moments and REALLY BAD moments. What is everyone opinion...do you prefer OLE or Valtrex? Thanks, Ann > > > > I am excited to start antivirals in June. & nbsp; I planned to start with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and then add virastop. > & nbsp; > Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? > & nbsp; > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 We are doing both, so I'm really not sure. If you've already started with the Valtrex I would stick with that. After he stabilizes you could consider adding in other natural antivirals. If he's having good and bad moments that means the Valtrex is working. We started with OLE first, and had a healing regression just as intense as what I've heard about with Valtrex and then when we added Valtrex to the mix we had another one (not as long as the first, maybe because he'd already had the BIG ONE, but essentially the same in every other way). Every time we add a new antiviral or up a dosage we see some kind of a reaction that comes with some kind of regression accompanied by gains. > > > > > > > > I am excited to start antivirals in June. & nbsp; I planned to start > with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great > things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and > then add virastop. > > & nbsp; > > Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? > > & nbsp; > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 > > > > > > > > I am excited to start antivirals in June. & nbsp; I planned to start > with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great > things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and > then add virastop. > > & nbsp; > > Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? > > & nbsp; > > Thanks, > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 Sambucol is a formulation of elderberry extract and echinacia that is kind of like a cough syrup. My son actually loves it and asks for his purple medicine. I give it to him twice a day. I started giving it to him after I found an article on pubmed about a woman in the 1980's who had HIV and drastically lowered her very, very high viral titers by taking OLE and sambucol. It has worked very well for us. The recommended dosage for intensive use for children age 1-6 is 1-2 tsps twice a day. We take 2 tsps twice a day. Here's a link to the kind we buy from Vitamin Shoppe- it's a childrens formulation. http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=JB-1010 > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; > & gt; I am excited to start antivirals in June. & amp;nbsp; I planned to start > with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great > things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and > then add virastop. > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? > & gt; & amp;nbsp; > & gt; Thanks, > & gt; > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2008 Report Share Posted May 31, 2008 What does Lysine do?jabuaisha0929 wrote: > >> > > > > > I am excited to start antivirals in June. & nbsp; I planned to start > with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great > things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and > then add virastop.> > & nbsp;> > Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc?> > & nbsp;> > Thanks,> >>Sincerely, Rei Founder/Senior Loan Officer TX State Mortgage Broker License #75036 TX State Loan Officer License #65838 Miles Funding LLC Rethink Vaccines. Reverse Autism. 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: www.gomilesfunding.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2008 Report Share Posted June 1, 2008 What are the different functions between these two? And what is the proper doesage of GSE you may recommend? My son is 10 years old, weighs about 70 lbs. So far, I give him 125mg GSE per day. ReiChristel King wrote: OLE and GSE have very different functions Recovering from Autism is a marathonNOT a sprint, but FULLY possible!Read more about it on my BLOGs athttp://www.myspace.com/christelkinghttp://foggyrock.com/MyPage/recoveringwishes Re: Should we start with Virastop or OLE to begin antiviral protocol? We are on OLE for a week and I see great improvement from my son included behaviro wise, physcially healthier, speech improves a lot. Now, We switch to grapefruit seed extract ( same function like OLE), seems he reacts to grapefruit seed extract better ( less hyperactitivtiy) than OLE. But, Both OLE and grapefruit seed extract contains high phenol, make sure your little one does not have phenol intolerant or phenol sensitivity reaction. If your little one gets more hyper, develop dark circle under eyes, trouble with sleeping at night, and that show he is phenol intolerant, and you may need to cut down OLE and add phenol assist ( from Kirkman Labs) after his three meals. That is the experiecne so far. My son weighs about 70lbs, we give him 500mg OLE in the morning, another 500mg OLE at night, usually you want to start slowly and after a week gradually add more. Reidana pope <danamichellepope> wrote: I am excited to start antivirals in June. I planned to start with virastop and then later add OLE, but I am reading such great things about OLE and wondering if I should start with that first and then add virastop. Any advice or suggestions on dosing for 36 pounders, schedule, etc? Thanks, Sincerely, Rei Founder/Senior Loan Officer TX State Mortgage Broker License #75036 TX State Loan Officer License #65838 Miles Funding LLC Rethink Vaccines. Reverse Autism. 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: www.gomilesfunding.com No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1476 - Release Date: 5/31/2008 12:25 PM Sincerely, Rei Founder/Senior Loan Officer TX State Mortgage Broker License #75036 TX State Loan Officer License #65838 Miles Funding LLC Rethink Vaccines. Reverse Autism. 6070 Gateway East, Suite 509 El Paso, TX 79905 Phone: Fax: Cell: www.gomilesfunding.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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