Re: 'above and beyond what anyone (guilt) Deb

March 25, 2004

Hey Deb<g>

I meant that when they were " talking about " you, and it read as if it was ugly

vehement talk (slapping you verbally) it was most likely coming form their

guilt. No, not you or yours. I think that in most cases, when someone is cutting

someone so deeply, like in name calling, etc in thier 'free time', it's

releasing their guilt.

Example. When someone borrows money (or uses someong in the same kind of way)

and doesn't pay back, a very common phenomenon is they make the " loaner " less in

their minds. If they tear down the person that loaned the money, (that they

didn't pay back), they keep their guilt at bay. Instead of owning their guilt. I

hope this explains what I mean, and how I perceived it was meant. I know the

money favor thing is true, I've seen it from many people.

Thanks for telling me you were scared when you had to cross that 4 lane. I was

sent " downtown " when I was 7 and I WAS crying by the time I got there. Shaking,

also like you said. I had been very " isolated " when that happened. Hadn't gone

more than 5 blocks on my own, no girlfriends, etc. This was for me to be

downtown to be in the parade for brownies. I still think that nada did this so I

would not get attention from Dad. They showed up when the parade was over. Dad

was not in the room when she tole me to go on " they would come later " .

Hugs, Trompalina

> >

> > I know the intense injustice one can feel. I gave up so much. I am still

processing specifics of how nada coerced me to do her bidding. My only excuse

was I was in the fog. I remember her making me take the water bill, etc., after

school to pay them. This would make me have to walk out of my way about 2 miles

~either for her to get rid of me or to save the stamp(s). Could be either. She

is that cheap. Nuts cheap. I also remember how she would go to a large city 40

miles away and buy high ticket brand names marked down and make me take them to

the local store and get the money back (where they were not marked down.) I was

confronted by a clerk and the manager finally. I was 12 years old and so

humiliated. I did not know then what was going on. She is sadistic and cheap

sick. A hoarder. A big time hoarder.

> >

> > *** Trompalina,

>

March 25, 2004

Trompalina,

Thanks for explaining that to me. I thought that was what you meant, but had to

ask to be sure.

I don't blame you for crying when you were made to walk downtown by yourself. It

may be possible that they missed the parade because your Dad was P.O about what

she did. If he didn't give her hell, then he should have. Sometimes when I see

people doing crap like that, (like leaving babies locked in cars on hot days,

while they go in to grocery shop) it just makes me want to slap the hell out of

them. I drive through areas & I see 3 & 4 year olds playing in the road that has

high traffic. It makes me want to get the child & take him/her to their house &

give their mother a lecture on caring for their child. Actually I feel more

vicious about it than that. It just goes all over me because of my childhood.

Debbie

Re: 'above and beyond what anyone (guilt) Deb

Hey Deb<g>

I meant that when they were " talking about " you, and it read as if it was ugly

vehement talk (slapping you verbally) it was most likely coming form their

guilt. No, not you or yours. I think that in most cases, when someone is cutting

someone so deeply, like in name calling, etc in thier 'free time', it's

releasing their guilt.

Example. When someone borrows money (or uses someong in the same kind of way)

and doesn't pay back, a very common phenomenon is they make the " loaner " less in

their minds. If they tear down the person that loaned the money, (that they

didn't pay back), they keep their guilt at bay. Instead of owning their guilt. I

hope this explains what I mean, and how I perceived it was meant. I know the

money favor thing is true, I've seen it from many people.

Thanks for telling me you were scared when you had to cross that 4 lane. I was

sent " downtown " when I was 7 and I WAS crying by the time I got there. Shaking,

also like you said. I had been very " isolated " when that happened. Hadn't gone

more than 5 blocks on my own, no girlfriends, etc. This was for me to be

downtown to be in the parade for brownies. I still think that nada did this so I

would not get attention from Dad. They showed up when the parade was over. Dad

was not in the room when she tole me to go on " they would come later " .

Hugs, Trompalina

> >

> > I know the intense injustice one can feel. I gave up so much. I am

still processing specifics of how nada coerced me to do her bidding. My only

excuse was I was in the fog. I remember her making me take the water bill, etc.,

after school to pay them. This would make me have to walk out of my way about 2

miles ~either for her to get rid of me or to save the stamp(s). Could be either.

She is that cheap. Nuts cheap. I also remember how she would go to a large city

40 miles away and buy high ticket brand names marked down and make me take them

to the local store and get the money back (where they were not marked down.) I

was confronted by a clerk and the manager finally. I was 12 years old and so

humiliated. I did not know then what was going on. She is sadistic and cheap

sick. A hoarder. A big time hoarder.

> >

> > *** Trompalina,

>

March 25, 2004