Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 In a message dated 3/8/04 1:09:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, foundmy@... writes: The psychologist just thought " Why frustrate the child and make him feel more like a failure with forcing him to do something that he would never be able to accomplish. " Send that psychologist an invitation to your son's college graduation...and many thank you notes in the mean time. Phonics works very well for the average child, makes no sense at all to 10% of people (mostly boys) in the western world, no child should made to feel inferior because he is not average. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 >>The psychologist suggested that I not teach to spell or read as it wasn't that important to getting by in life. << HUH? Yeah, thats what we said too. You will notice that we didn't listen to that part. The psychologist meant well, I suppose. There are people like ny who never do learn to read or spell. The psychologist just thought " Why frustrate the child and make him feel more like a failure with forcing him to do something that he would never be able to accomplish. " If ny hadn't fallen in love with Frost's poetry, He probably wouldn't have ever been able to read or spell. He went from not picking up any books to read at age 12 to picking up 300 - 500 page books now. He had to really pore over the words to get the poetry just write. He came to us all the time getting us to listen to his poetry. We had to help him make sure the beat was just right. When he got that right I would circle or put a small mark on the words that were spelled wrong. He carried a pocket dictionary with him all the time just to use for spelling. While he was doing that I kept telling him that the more he read the more his spelling would improve. Basically it all boiled down to the fact that he wanted to learn to do it so bad that it helped his determination to become stronger. Plus, with his Adhd the school environment was too distracting. At home he could go into his own room and turn his radio on to drown out the outer distractions. I never gave him formal spelling, but I did require him to correct all of his spelling on his work. Debbie You're a Good mom. Your son's like the phoenix rising from the ashes... sending rays of sunlight your way Send questions and/or concerns to ModOasis-owner " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs, can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL () and for the table of contents, go to: http://www.BPDCentral.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 Quick thought -- I betcha " people like ny who never do learn to spell or read " would be able to learn sign language. The story of a " throw away " child (not by you, by the standards of what he allegedly could or couldn't do, according to that psychologist) being inspired by a poet and learning to read...it's heart warming. :=) sunsh > > > >>The psychologist suggested that I not teach to spell or read as > it wasn't that important to getting by in life. << > > HUH? > > Yeah, thats what we said too. You will notice that we didn't listen to that part. The psychologist meant well, I suppose. There are people like ny who never do learn to read or spell. The psychologist just thought " Why frustrate the child and make him feel more like a failure with forcing him to do something that he would never be able to accomplish. " If ny hadn't fallen in love with Frost's poetry, He probably wouldn't have ever been able to read or spell. > He went from not picking up any books to read at age 12 to picking up 300 - 500 page books now. He had to really pore over the words to get the poetry just write. He came to us all the time getting us to listen to his poetry. We had to help him make sure the beat was just right. When he got that right I would circle or put a small mark on the words that were spelled wrong. He carried a pocket dictionary with him all the time just to use for spelling. While he was doing that I kept telling him that the more he read the more his spelling would improve. > Basically it all boiled down to the fact that he wanted to learn to do it so bad that it helped his determination to become stronger. Plus, with his Adhd the school environment was too distracting. At home he could go into his own room and turn his radio on to drown out the outer distractions. I never gave him formal spelling, but I did require him to correct all of his spelling on his work. > Debbie > > You're a Good mom. Your son's like the phoenix rising from the ashes... > > sending rays of sunlight your way > > > > > > Send questions and/or concerns to ModOasis-owner > " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs, can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL () and for the table of contents, go to: > http://www.BPDCentral.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 ny could do the letters of sign language without missing a single one. Debbie Re: huh? (debbie) Quick thought -- I betcha " people like ny who never do learn to spell or read " would be able to learn sign language. The story of a " throw away " child (not by you, by the standards of what he allegedly could or couldn't do, according to that psychologist) being inspired by a poet and learning to read...it's heart warming. :=) sunsh > > > >>The psychologist suggested that I not teach to spell or read as > it wasn't that important to getting by in life. << > > HUH? > > Yeah, thats what we said too. You will notice that we didn't listen to that part. The psychologist meant well, I suppose. There are people like ny who never do learn to read or spell. The psychologist just thought " Why frustrate the child and make him feel more like a failure with forcing him to do something that he would never be able to accomplish. " If ny hadn't fallen in love with Frost's poetry, He probably wouldn't have ever been able to read or spell. > He went from not picking up any books to read at age 12 to picking up 300 - 500 page books now. He had to really pore over the words to get the poetry just write. He came to us all the time getting us to listen to his poetry. We had to help him make sure the beat was just right. When he got that right I would circle or put a small mark on the words that were spelled wrong. He carried a pocket dictionary with him all the time just to use for spelling. While he was doing that I kept telling him that the more he read the more his spelling would improve. > Basically it all boiled down to the fact that he wanted to learn to do it so bad that it helped his determination to become stronger. Plus, with his Adhd the school environment was too distracting. At home he could go into his own room and turn his radio on to drown out the outer distractions. I never gave him formal spelling, but I did require him to correct all of his spelling on his work. > Debbie > > You're a Good mom. Your son's like the phoenix rising from the ashes... > > sending rays of sunlight your way > > > > > > Send questions and/or concerns to ModOasis-owner > " Stop Walking on Eggshells, " a primer for non-BPs, can be ordered via 1-888-35-SHELL () and for the table of contents, go to: > http://www.BPDCentral.com > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2004 Report Share Posted March 8, 2004 The reason I am not angry with the psychologist is because he was the one who told ny that he had a very high IQ. The school system had allowed ny to think that he was stupid and a loser. I tried to counter act that, but what can you do in the face of complete failing grades on a report card? Once ny found out about his IQ (around 160) it gave him hope. Then bringing him home to school made all the difference in the world. If I had known about homeschool sooner, He would never have gone to public school. But now, at age 20, he is a very different young man than he was 8 years ago. Debbie Re: huh? (debbie) In a message dated 3/8/04 1:09:04 PM Eastern Standard Time, foundmy@... writes: The psychologist just thought " Why frustrate the child and make him feel more like a failure with forcing him to do something that he would never be able to accomplish. " Send that psychologist an invitation to your son's college graduation...and many thank you notes in the mean time. Phonics works very well for the average child, makes no sense at all to 10% of people (mostly boys) in the western world, no child should made to feel inferior because he is not average. Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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