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Hi, I too am new here.

Thanks for the post that says that Walking On Eggshells is intended for those

dealing with a high functioning BP. Which my NADA is not.

I am the only child of an NPD, undiagnosed, who divorced my father when I was

4, and then proceeded to pretty much ignore me for the rest of my childhood,

at least when she wasn't busy sucking up all the oxygen in the room, and

trying to completely destroy any chance I might have at a normal adulthood. She

remarried a man who was abusive and alcoholic when I was 10. I have, throughout

my adulthood, struggled to put distance between us, but because I still

wanted mothering, I frequently fell for her carrot and stick routine. Nice one

moment, vicious the next.

Nearly 2 years ago, NADA and stepfather came for visit, and NADA became ill

and needed to be hospitalized here. While she was in the hospital, stepfather,

who was 82 at the time, drank continuously and he is also very deaf. When

she got out of the hospital, she insisted on continuing on her journey to her

condo, up rather dangerous roads. My husband and I both felt that she would be

better resting a few days as she wasn't completely cured of a systemic staph

infection. NADA and I finally agreed that we would leave the following

afternoon, and I would take the children in my van. I made it perfectly clear

that

the kids were to drive with me because a) she was sick, B) stepfather is an

elderly, deaf, drunk, and c) the roads are treacherous.

The next morning, I awoke at 6:30 to find that she had packed 2 of my

children into the back of her car and was getting ready to leave with them. One

of

these children is an adoptive son, who struggles with moderate Reactive

Attachment Disorder. In my groggy state, I told her she was not going to take

the

kids, and told the kids to get out of her car. She proceeded to tell the RAD

kid how I was a terrible mommy who would not allow him to have any fun. She did

this several times, " your mommy is so mean, " and " wouldn't you rather come

with us? " as she wandered through the house gathering up the last of her things.

Unfortunately, my husband had already left for work.

This was, of course, not the end of it, however, I did not speak to her from

that point until about 2 weeks ago, when she started to phone again. I simply

cannot continue to have contact with her, and, after reading some the posts

on this list yesterday, struggled to describe the utter terror I feel of her.

I think it is similar to how a rape victim would feel about seeing her

perpetrator in court. The phone called caused such serious PTSD issues, that it

has

taken me nearly 2 weeks to return to my life.

The only other relative I have is her sister, who would like me to remain in

contact with NADA just by sending a note once a month. I don't see how this

can work. Give the NADA an inch, and she'll be bulldozing your life in a

moment. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? At this point, I'm thinking

that I

will just remove both of them from my life.

Marla

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> The only other relative I have is her sister, who would like me to remain in

> contact with NADA just by sending a note once a month. I don't see how this

> can work. Give the NADA an inch, and she'll be bulldozing your life in a

> moment. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? At this point, I'm thinking

that I

> will just remove both of them from my life.

Hi Marla,

Welcome to our list. My nada was a BPD/NPD combo. My thought is,

the sooner you cut that umbilical cord with both your nada and

your nada's sister, the better your life will be.

- Edith

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Marla,

welcome! i so know the carrot you speak of- just fell down in that

rabbit hole again. so glad that you woke b4 nada took your kids- see

you do have good mommy instincts ....unlike a nada.

in so far as fog is concerned, i've plernty of family members who

wish i'd just drop a note once in a while too. ugh! that's like

telling a battered wife to just hang out w/herhusband whose beat her

on several occassions.

Kerrie

> Hi, I too am new here.

>

> Thanks for the post that says that Walking On Eggshells is

intended for those

> dealing with a high functioning BP. Which my NADA is not.

>

> I am the only child of an NPD, undiagnosed, who divorced my father

when I was

> 4, and then proceeded to pretty much ignore me for the rest of my

childhood,

> at least when she wasn't busy sucking up all the oxygen in the

room, and

> trying to completely destroy any chance I might have at a normal

adulthood. She

> remarried a man who was abusive and alcoholic when I was 10. I

have, throughout

> my adulthood, struggled to put distance between us, but because I

still

> wanted mothering, I frequently fell for her carrot and stick

routine. Nice one

> moment, vicious the next.

>

> Nearly 2 years ago, NADA and stepfather came for visit, and NADA

became ill

> and needed to be hospitalized here. While she was in the

hospital, stepfather,

> who was 82 at the time, drank continuously and he is also very

deaf. When

> she got out of the hospital, she insisted on continuing on her

journey to her

> condo, up rather dangerous roads. My husband and I both felt that

she would be

> better resting a few days as she wasn't completely cured of a

systemic staph

> infection. NADA and I finally agreed that we would leave the

following

> afternoon, and I would take the children in my van. I made it

perfectly clear that

> the kids were to drive with me because a) she was sick, B)

stepfather is an

> elderly, deaf, drunk, and c) the roads are treacherous.

>

> The next morning, I awoke at 6:30 to find that she had packed 2 of

my

> children into the back of her car and was getting ready to leave

with them. One of

> these children is an adoptive son, who struggles with moderate

Reactive

> Attachment Disorder. In my groggy state, I told her she was not

going to take the

> kids, and told the kids to get out of her car. She proceeded to

tell the RAD

> kid how I was a terrible mommy who would not allow him to have any

fun. She did

> this several times, " your mommy is so mean, " and " wouldn't you

rather come

> with us? " as she wandered through the house gathering up the last

of her things.

> Unfortunately, my husband had already left for work.

>

> This was, of course, not the end of it, however, I did not speak

to her from

> that point until about 2 weeks ago, when she started to phone

again. I simply

> cannot continue to have contact with her, and, after reading some

the posts

> on this list yesterday, struggled to describe the utter terror I

feel of her.

> I think it is similar to how a rape victim would feel about seeing

her

> perpetrator in court. The phone called caused such serious PTSD

issues, that it has

> taken me nearly 2 weeks to return to my life.

>

> The only other relative I have is her sister, who would like me to

remain in

> contact with NADA just by sending a note once a month. I don't

see how this

> can work. Give the NADA an inch, and she'll be bulldozing your

life in a

> moment. Does anyone have any thoughts on this? At this point,

I'm thinking that I

> will just remove both of them from my life.

>

> Marla

>

>

>

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