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well you are are a member now so it should be up and running I will check you account status on the group, welcome!

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I want to join and receive mail.

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So glad to hear you set your date. Sometimes just knowing you are going to take them out will put your mind at ease, therefore easing your symptoms, does that make sense?

take care

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Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:23 PM

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HI EVERYONE,

WELL I FINALLY GOT MY EXPLANT DATE ITS SEPT. 6TH . I CAN HARDLY WAIT, FUNNY THING IS NOW THAT I HAVE MY DATE SET IM NOT REALLY SICK MUCH ANYMORE... BUT STILL GOING AHEAD WITH IT.

IVE BEEN REAL BUSY WITH WORK AROUND MY NEW HOME , THOSES OF U THAT HAVE WRITTEN ME I WILL WRITE BACK JUST GIVE ME SOME TIME, BEEN BUSY GETTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE READY FOR A PARTY.

TAKE CARE AND I WISH EVERYONE WELL

LANI

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TY

LISA MARIE

LANI

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Hi Lani:Best wishes to you on your explant.Take care.-Marie

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HI CARI,

I KNOW WHAT U MEAN, BUT LIKE I TOLD U BEFORE MY SYMPTOMS WENT AWAY WHEN I GOT PREGRANT, AND THE ONLY THING I HAVE NOW IS THE RASH, AND THAT TOO IS GOING AWAY WITH A CREAM I ORDERED THRU THE MAIL. SO THEREFORE I AM NOT SICK ANYMORE, BUT I PLAN ON HAVING THEM TAKEN OUT ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE A GUT INSTINT THAT SOMETHING IS JUST NOT RIGHT WITH THEM NOT TO MENTION WHAT I DID GO THRU AT ONE TIME.

TAKE CARE

LANI

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Date: Monday, June 24, 2002 11:24:53 PM

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So glad to hear you set your date. Sometimes just knowing you are going to take them out will put your mind at ease, therefore easing your symptoms, does that make sense?

take care

Hugs

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From: Lani

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:23 PM

Subject: HI

HI EVERYONE,

WELL I FINALLY GOT MY EXPLANT DATE ITS SEPT. 6TH . I CAN HARDLY WAIT, FUNNY THING IS NOW THAT I HAVE MY DATE SET IM NOT REALLY SICK MUCH ANYMORE... BUT STILL GOING AHEAD WITH IT.

IVE BEEN REAL BUSY WITH WORK AROUND MY NEW HOME , THOSES OF U THAT HAVE WRITTEN ME I WILL WRITE BACK JUST GIVE ME SOME TIME, BEEN BUSY GETTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE READY FOR A PARTY.

TAKE CARE AND I WISH EVERYONE WELL

LANI

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Lani I am glad that your symptoms are going away or gone, that is great, and that is also smart that your still going to get them out. Did your ana get back to normal too?

Well keep us posted and good luck girl.

hugs

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From: Lani

Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 4:58 AM

Subject: Re: HI

HI CARI,

I KNOW WHAT U MEAN, BUT LIKE I TOLD U BEFORE MY SYMPTOMS WENT AWAY WHEN I GOT PREGRANT, AND THE ONLY THING I HAVE NOW IS THE RASH, AND THAT TOO IS GOING AWAY WITH A CREAM I ORDERED THRU THE MAIL. SO THEREFORE I AM NOT SICK ANYMORE, BUT I PLAN ON HAVING THEM TAKEN OUT ONLY BECAUSE I HAVE A GUT INSTINT THAT SOMETHING IS JUST NOT RIGHT WITH THEM NOT TO MENTION WHAT I DID GO THRU AT ONE TIME.

TAKE CARE

LANI

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Date: Monday, June 24, 2002 11:24:53 PM

Subject: Re: HI

So glad to hear you set your date. Sometimes just knowing you are going to take them out will put your mind at ease, therefore easing your symptoms, does that make sense?

take care

Hugs

----- Original Message -----

From: Lani

Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 8:23 PM

Subject: HI

HI EVERYONE,

WELL I FINALLY GOT MY EXPLANT DATE ITS SEPT. 6TH . I CAN HARDLY WAIT, FUNNY THING IS NOW THAT I HAVE MY DATE SET IM NOT REALLY SICK MUCH ANYMORE... BUT STILL GOING AHEAD WITH IT.

IVE BEEN REAL BUSY WITH WORK AROUND MY NEW HOME , THOSES OF U THAT HAVE WRITTEN ME I WILL WRITE BACK JUST GIVE ME SOME TIME, BEEN BUSY GETTING THE OUTSIDE OF THE HOUSE READY FOR A PARTY.

TAKE CARE AND I WISH EVERYONE WELL

LANI

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> NEEDING SOME ASSISTANTS, AS I CAN'T SIGN IN TO THE GROUP HOME ALL

OF A SUDDEN? I DON'T WANT TO CHANGE MY NAME.....

> Jody

I'M HERE.........

PROBABLY HIT WRONG KEY, SORRY BOUT THAT.............

2 NIGHT'S AGO, I LOST MY BALANCE, AS I WAS ENTERING THE BATHROOM/ TO

MAKE A LONG STORY SHORT.......I FELL ON THE TUB/SIDEWAY'S

AND HURT MY RIB'S.........TOOK THE WIND RIGHT OUT OF ME....LUCKLY I

HAD MY " CELL PHONE " ON MY ME...........I WALK THROUGH HOUSE,IF I

HAPPEN TO GET IN THE SITUATION I WAS IN, I HAD THAT PHONE RIGHT

THERE.

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--- Leah,

I'm curious - are the symptoms of liver stones the same as gallstones?

Ronna

In gallstones , " Leah Behrens " <leah.behrens@s...>

wrote:

> After the last blood test with the extreme elevation of enzymes I

was

> sent for a CT scan but nothing was found. A few weeks before the

> blood test I had a recurrance of the back pain, but only for a few

> hours. During the course of this problem over the past four years

> none of the pain had been extreme or required hospital or doctor

> visits. I'm a bit confused now as to what may be my problem with the

> enzymes.

>

>

>

> Hi --

>

> I had my gallbladder out three years ago, and have been having

problems from

> stones in the liver ever since. But it hasn't been until NOW that

I've known

> that, because CT scans, untrasounds and blood tests don't always

pick up the

> problem. I actually thought I was going crazy and making it all up

in my

> head or something. The last attack I had was a week and a half ago

and it

> landed me in the hospital for 3 days. The good thing, I suppose, is

that

> this time THEY ACTUALLY FOUND SOMETHING. Stones in my liver. They

got one

> out by ercp while I was there, and I am scheduled to go in a week

and a half

> to get the others out (by ercp as well). The doctor and nurses told

me there

> was nothing I could do to prevent this from happening again. I am

31, thin,

> and I work out and eat 'pretty well' (I could probably come up a

few notches

> here, but I steer clear away from grease and places like McD's et

al). It

> blew me away to think that I would be sentenced to a life of this

crap, so I

> hopped on the net and found that I was not alone! Joy!

>

> So here I am, with the " gallstones " group, finding much

support and

> encouragement.

>

> Welcome to the group!

>

> Leah

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Exactly the same. I thought that I had grown my gallbladder back!!

Leah

> --- Leah,

> I'm curious - are the symptoms of liver stones the same as gallstones?

> Ronna

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> Wow -

> I wish you and other group members continued success! The more I

> read, I am convinced Xolair will give me back my life!

> G.M.

Welcome to the group :) I am the founder and have been on Xolair

just over a year. It took me 6 months to see any effect. I used to be

on 40 mg or more of pred every day. Now, I am off and only have to

take it for a two or three days when my asthma gets really bad.

Remember, each of us are individuals and react differently to this

medication. Trust your doctors judgement :)

Again, welcome :)

Doug

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hi, twotrees2! I have fibro & osteo &

rhematoid...to me it makes no difference, I hurt.

the treatment is the same: anti-inflamatories

DMARDS and I inject enbrel x2 weekly. I don't

use hydrocodone, don't like that surreal feeling.

I do take amitriptylene to sleep, but that's it.

what helps me best is water - hot water - shower

or tub before bedtime.gentle hugs, Marcia

--- twotrees2 <twotrees2@...> wrote:

>

> does anyone else have fibromyalgia? i think the

> doc was wrong who

> said i dont have arthritis cause my joints do

> swell at times just

> weent that day - anyhow - wondered because i

> dont think it could

> cause so much pain as i have to be on

> narcotics. sigh and i need em

> to stay going. i tak 2 hydrocodone in am and

> beefore bed and propox

> on occassion during day otherwise i just eat

> ibuprofen - i also take

> amitryptyline and alprazolome - problem is i

> also haev abad heart

> and maybe thatmakes it worse - i dontknow. does

> fibromyalgia hurt

> this bad??

>

> what makes mme angriest is my reg doc thought

> arthritis due to

> increases in labs but the rhuematologist poked

> me in few spots - did

> no labwork or xrays and says i dont have

> arthritis - how the heck

> can they tell without tests?

>

>

>

>

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Some rheumatologists ignore the tests unless certain symptoms are present., Some other rheumatologists ignore the symptoms if the tests are not positive, I have never heard of a sure-fire test tor RA. Some tests are indicative but not conclusive. Likewise physical examination can be difficult to interpret and this often means a long time before a diagnosis is firm. Most inflammatory arthritis is hard to diagnose unless someone fits a classic pattern. I think a good rheumatologist considers all available information, including patient history and both tests and examinations. If you don't think your rheumatologist gave you adequate consideration or explanation, look for a second opinion. God bless.

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Sent: Saturday, October 23, 2004 11:58 PM

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does anyone else have fibromyalgia? i think the doc was wrong whosaid i dont have arthritis cause my joints do swell at times justweent that day - anyhow - wondered because i dont think it couldcause so much pain as i have to be on narcotics. sigh and i need emto stay going. i tak 2 hydrocodone in am and beefore bed and propoxon occassion during day otherwise i just eat ibuprofen - i also takeamitryptyline and alprazolome - problem is i also haev abad heartand maybe thatmakes it worse - i dontknow. does fibromyalgia hurtthis bad??what makes mme angriest is my reg doc thought arthritis due to increases in labs but the rhuematologist poked me in few spots - did no labwork or xrays and says i dont have arthritis - how the heck can they tell without tests?

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Welcome to the site. Usually it takes quite a while to get a diagnosis and find the right combination and dosages of medicines to help you but most people get pretty good relief eventually. The first year or two are often the hardest. You already have the diagnosis and some people take a year or more to get that far.

You should be seeing a rheumatologist who takes you seriously and treats you aggressively. This usually means being on a DMARD (Disease-Modifying Anti-Rheumatic Drug). You can go to ArthritisInsight.com to find a list of commonly-used arthritis drugs and a brief description of each. If you let us know what medicines you are on we might be able to suggest other things to ask your doctor about. God bless.

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Sent: Friday, November 05, 2004 9:50 AM

Subject: hi

Hi everyone...I am new on the site and was recently diagnosed withrheumatoid arthritis and lupus...I am f/48 and not dealing well withthis at all, so any advice that anyone has, feel free to send it tome...Thank you for having this support group...Patti

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I'm 45 in New Jersey. I am not surprised by my diagnosis but I have to admit

it's been a mind blower. I have Sjorgens so it depresses me that I cannot even cry about it. I feel very overwlemed. I miseed my appt with rheumy on friday cuz I was so sick

I could barely move; one thing after another. It's a constant assault and helluva lotta pain.

God Bless

> > Hi everyone...I am new on the site and was> recently diagnosed with> rheumatoid arthritis and lupus...I am f/48 and> not dealing well with> this at all,You can never step into the same river; for new waters are always flowing on to you. — Heraclitus__________________________________________________

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Dear Patti,

I am 42 and although I have had Hashimoto's thyroiditis for 14

years, I finally got them to consider the possibility that I also

have Rheumatoid arthritis. Now they are telling me they believe I

also have lupus (in addition to the RA). I am not dealing well with

this either. I am selling our house and getting something more

manageable, and this is helping me deal with it personally a little

better. I am also really cognizant of my mortality at the moment. (I

actually told my husband that I would like to structure everything so

that he could handle everything if something happened to me.....as we

have 4 kids) These plans are probably good ideas for everyone

though. Everyone should ponder their finances and a personal affairs

portfolio so that loved ones would at least know where everything is.

The reality is though......that according to my rheumatologist

and my internist who sent me there.....there has never been a better

time to have both of these illnesses, if indeed we must. If they are

caught early, we have a fair shot at slowing their progress. Many

people live many years with little more than exaustion and stiff

joints.

I don't mean to downplay the devastation..........I truly get

it, but it isn't 1950 or even 1970. You and I will do far better

than those souls who were our age with these diagnoses in even 1970.

Watch you and I eat well, manage our stress, drink lots of

water, and outlive all of our relatives !

Welcome, and good to have you here.

Jane

-- In Rheumatoid Arthritis , peak317@y... wrote:

>

>

> Hi everyone...I am new on the site and was recently diagnosed with

> rheumatoid arthritis and lupus...I am f/48 and not dealing well with

> this at all, so any advice that anyone has, feel free to send it to

> me...Thank you for having this support group...Patti

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hI PATTI MY NAME IS SHERRIE I HAVE HAD RA FOR 13 YEARS WHEN I

diagnosed with it i just thou it would go away but it didn't you

learn how to live with it mine is so bak that it puts me in bed some

days good luck hope you have a good doctor that males a lot of

differnts to sherrie

>

>

> Hi everyone...I am new on the site and was recently diagnosed with

> rheumatoid arthritis and lupus...I am f/48 and not dealing well

with

> this at all, so any advice that anyone has, feel free to send it to

> me...Thank you for having this support group...Patti

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but it isn't 1950 or even 1970. You and I will do far better

> than those souls who were our age with these diagnoses in even 1970.

I remember when I was a teenager in the 60's, a friend of my mother had RA. All

they had to treat it then was steroids. She was bedridden, and the steroids had

made her swell until she could hardly see out of her bloated face. You are

right. As bad as it is it is much better than it was when I was a child.

Sharon

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Actually I wasnt,but I will now.Thanks for that.Going to central

market this morning to see what seeds I can find.Broke out last

night and felt horrible,even with just a short time raw,my body told

me what it thought of cooked heavy food.Back feeling positive this

morning.After a couple weeks might do a juice fast.

-- In health , Suzanne

<suziesgoats@y...> wrote:

> ok, are you sprouting/soaking your nuts and seeds to release the

enzyme inhibitors? if not do... there is info in the HOW TO files

on sprouting also www..com is a good site...

> How about carrots, spinach, celery, cabbage, cucumbers... all good

for you.. make sure you're getting your greens and veggies.

> Don't eat your fruits and veggies together though.. different

times or meals... (Food combining)

>

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wrote:

>

>

> I have joined this group only recently and would like to introduce

> myself. I am a mum of 4 sons,wife and art student and live in

> Adelaide (South Australia). Been interested in natural healing for a

> while now but has taken me until now to apply it to my life.I was an

> enrolled nurse for 16 years and have seen enough to convince me that

> orthodox medicine was not for me.I have been diagnosed with Type 2

> diabetes and hypothroidism.Strange that after nursing so many sick

> people that I neglected to look after myself.I am very

> overweight,all that shiftwork and burning the candle at both ends

> contributed to hurried take away meals and high sugar and high fat

> snacks. I have just begun a raw food diet, had an awful time for the

> first couple of days but now feel that I have turned a corner. Also

> taking milk thistle tabs and silica along with my thyroxin. Have

> learnt alot just in the past week or so from this group and look

> forward to being part of it.

>

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Hi ,

Welcome to the group and glad your here. Do make yourself at home and

enjoy the files and archives.

You need something to help jump start and detoxify your pancreas. There

is a formula in the files for this. You also can make a tea to drink

three times per day for your underactive thyroid. Here is the recipe:

2 parts Bladderwrack (Fucus vesiculosus)

1 part of Damiana (a diffusa var aphrodiaca) or Kola (Cola nitida)

1 part of Nettles (Urtica dioica)

1 part of Oats (Avena sativa)

1 part of Wormwood (Artemisia absinthium)

Pour boiling distilled or very nicely filtered water over and allow to

steep for 15 minutes. This will be very good for your underactive thyroid.

Other than that changing to an all raw diet of fresh organic (if

possible) fruits and green leafy vegetables will do wonders for your

diabetes and thyroid. You might also consider adding in some ginseng,

ginger, aswaganda and maybe some licorice to help boost your adrenals.

Drinking a tea made from parsley or better yet, juicing fresh parsley

will help your adrenals as well. The adrenals and thyroid are

inextricably tied to one another. Your weight will naturally come down

by itself as you become more raw. The body finds its own preferred

weight and will go down to that all by itself. All you need to do is

give it what it needs and remove what it doesn't need and it sounds to

me like you are beginning to do just that.

Yes, going raw can be a bit of a challenge but anytime we have to change

our paradigms or points of view it can be a bit of a challenge. However,

you are on the right path and with a little assistance you will achieve

your own good health back in short order. We are here to help you do

that and support you on your journey.

Peace be with you .

--

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Don " Quai " Eitner

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Welcome a! Don't ever be afraid to ask a question... tell us what your diet consists of..this will help us to help you. Eat, drink, etc.. .

Suzifrankalgoodson@... wrote:

Well, I have been here a long time and have never posted...not that I didn't have anything to ask or post I was just afraid. Everyone seems really friendly here though so I thought maybe I would ask a question. I have been on one form of birth control or another since after the birth of my first child 8 years ago, while on birth control I gained 2 children and 100 pounds...the children were a welcome although surprising addition but the weight is not. Due to my knee problem my husband decided to seek another method so that I could get off the Bc and lose the weight. My last form of BC was the Depo shot...last taken 5 months ago, I have been trying desperately to lose weight since then...trying many things Ive read here as well only Im not losing but maintaining the same weight. I went to my doctor last week and she told me not to stress about it to much that until the depo shot was out of my system I would not be able to lose weight, she feels that with my history it will come

off fairly easily after that. She also said that it can take anywhere from 6 months to 2 years (2 years in some women) for it to be out and you start to cycle again. Is there anything I can do to speed this process up and get my body back to normal? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you,

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Hmmm, well lets see, I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables...love them in fact. The extent of my dairy eating is yogurt and some cheeses here and there. I cant drink milk as it breaks me out in hives so that is a no no. I am not a big meat eater, occasionally some chicken but that's about it. I drink a lot of water now, occasionally a cup of coffee or tea. I like oatmeal with fruit cut up in it...not real sure if that is what you wanted to know, but that is my diet.

Thanks

a

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Thanks for the welcome , Ive been here a couple of months just watching and getting a feeling of the atmosphere, I was on another list before this one and someone asked about a problem they had and I was very interested in the answers because I have the same problem but instead of helping with the problem they started bashing him. There were some very nasty things said that made me feel uncomfortable so I left the group. I have seen that some of the people feel the same way about the problem here BUT they are nice when talking about it. That makes a big difference. Anyway, didn't mean to babble on so, thanks for the welcome and I hope you have a nice day!

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We drink water from the tap, its good and doesn't leave your mouth feeling dry like bottled water does, I will have to get some lemons and try the juice in it. I have never tried a fast or cleansing before, I wouldn't know how to do it. I know it would be drink all juice and no food or anything, but just clear juices or would orange and grapefruit juice work too. I have seen cleansing products at the health food store but never tried one of them before.

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I take a green tea supplement and 2 OTC meds, Zyrtec and Effexor XR. I have also just started taking joint juice as well.

a

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Well, diet looks pretty good... Try adding lemon juice (the real thing) to your water (is your water RO or distilled?).. Have you ever considered fasting or cleansing? A juice or water fast?

Suzifrankalgoodson@... wrote:

Hmmm, well lets see, I eat a lot of fruits and vegetables...love them in fact. The extent of my dairy eating is yogurt and some cheeses here and there. I cant drink milk as it breaks me out in hives so that is a no no. I am not a big meat eater, occasionally some chicken but that's about it. I drink a lot of water now, occasionally a cup of coffee or tea. I like oatmeal with fruit cut up in it...not real sure if that is what you wanted to know, but that is my diet.

Thanks

a

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