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Hmmmm Sales....

Yes. I have experience in sales...

You put them in a van....put a bell on the top....play some loud

music...and children will run out in the street to buy them..

So if they test their mother and she is a nada - can they trade her

in for a new one?

Would the BPs results always flat-line though? Wouldn't a BP's

ability to " tap into " and mirror other people be a TYPE of empathy -

though not aultrustic?

Or would they have a tendency to either show NO feelings or BOTH the

sensory and cognitive aspects - which I guess wouldn't be empathy

because they would be taking it beyond the empathy - to actually

taking on the person's feelings and making it about them..

Free (lightening up for the evening - I hope)

>

> Edith here...

>

> Hmmmm, if I'm understanding this research correctly, this could

> turn out to be a way of testing for DSM-IV Axis II Personality

> Disorders ... like BPD.

>

> My nada, for example, was selfish and didn't have an ounce of

> altruism in her body. And she enjoyed inflicting pain on us

> kids. It is a known that BPDs lack empathy so when the results

> flat line, ta da.

>

> Maybe we ought to start up our own company and make these

> empathy machines. Dan could be the chief engineer, Sunsh could

> be the CEO, and Free could be in charge of Sales. OK, everyone

> with special talent and/or skills line up. We've got lots of

> vacancies to fill. And, we need a name for our company -- like

> Nadalyzer (ie, Nada Analyzer).

>

>

> And, in response to Sylvia's post, learning about BPD and its

> effects on us KOs *is* a lifetime process. I think most of the

> major changes in the adult KOs we see on these Oasis lists occur

> during their first two years here.

>

> And, it happens in spurts, like Nicky's and Sunsh's insights

> this week. <thumbs up>

>

> - Edith

> WTO List Manager & Gal Friday

>

> And I keep some of my 'gems' here:

> http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/GalFriday

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LoL! What a brilliant concept :)

How did I get elected CEO? Is it my typing skills? (cracking up

laughing). ;-)

liquid sunshine

> Public release date: 19-Feb-2004

>> > " Our human capacity to 'tune in' to others when exposed to their

> > feelings may explain why we do not always behave selfishly in

> > human interactions but instead engage in altruistic, helping

> > behaviour, suggests Dr Tania Singer.

>

>

> Edith here...

>

> Hmmmm, if I'm understanding this research correctly, this could

> turn out to be a way of testing for DSM-IV Axis II Personality

> Disorders ... like BPD.

>

> My nada, for example, was selfish and didn't have an ounce of

> altruism in her body. And she enjoyed inflicting pain on us

> kids. It is a known that BPDs lack empathy so when the results

> flat line, ta da.

>

> Maybe we ought to start up our own company and make these

> empathy machines. Dan could be the chief engineer, Sunsh could

> be the CEO, and Free could be in charge of Sales. OK, everyone

> with special talent and/or skills line up. We've got lots of

> vacancies to fill. And, we need a name for our company -- like

> Nadalyzer (ie, Nada Analyzer).

>

>

> And, in response to Sylvia's post, learning about BPD and its

> effects on us KOs *is* a lifetime process. I think most of the

> major changes in the adult KOs we see on these Oasis lists occur

> during their first two years here.

>

> And, it happens in spurts, like Nicky's and Sunsh's insights

> this week. <thumbs up>

>

> - Edith

> WTO List Manager & Gal Friday

>

> And I keep some of my 'gems' here:

> http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/GalFriday

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liquidsunsh wrote:

> LoL! What a brilliant concept :)

>

> How did I get elected CEO? Is it my typing skills? (cracking up

> laughing). ;-)

Uhhhh, not really. You really ain't a bad typer. But, on 2/9 you

wrote, " ...after I was a " bad kid " I did all this " good stuff "

i.e. Columbia University, Wall Street and etc... "

Hey, I figured anyone who survived Columbia U and Wall Street

oughta know something about CEOing. *wink*

- Edith

______________

>

>

>>Public release date: 19-Feb-2004

>>

>>>> " Our human capacity to 'tune in' to others when exposed to their

>>>

>>>feelings may explain why we do not always behave selfishly in

>>>human interactions but instead engage in altruistic, helping

>>>behaviour, suggests Dr Tania Singer.

>>

>>

>>Edith here...

>>

>>Hmmmm, if I'm understanding this research correctly, this could

>>turn out to be a way of testing for DSM-IV Axis II Personality

>>Disorders ... like BPD.

>>

>>My nada, for example, was selfish and didn't have an ounce of

>>altruism in her body. And she enjoyed inflicting pain on us

>>kids. It is a known that BPDs lack empathy so when the results

>>flat line, ta da.

>>

>>Maybe we ought to start up our own company and make these

>>empathy machines. Dan could be the chief engineer, Sunsh could

>>be the CEO, and Free could be in charge of Sales. OK, everyone

>>with special talent and/or skills line up. We've got lots of

>>vacancies to fill. And, we need a name for our company -- like

>>Nadalyzer (ie, Nada Analyzer).

>>

>>

>>And, in response to Sylvia's post, learning about BPD and its

>>effects on us KOs *is* a lifetime process. I think most of the

>>major changes in the adult KOs we see on these Oasis lists occur

>>during their first two years here.

>>

>>And, it happens in spurts, like Nicky's and Sunsh's insights

>>this week. <thumbs up>

>>

>>- Edith

>>WTO List Manager & Gal Friday

>>

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I guess most of this about the empathy machine is joking around, but

I have given it a little thought and it might not be too difficult a

project. Instead of brain scanning (very expensive), we would use a

simple polygraph connected to a computer (very cheap). It might just

do the trick.

Never suggest a cockamamie idea to an engineer, he gets all wrapped

up in it. Someone once handed me a card that had printed on it " How

do you keep an engineer amused for hours " ? I turned it over and it

had the same thing printed on the back.

- Dan

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Dan wrote:

> I guess most of this about the empathy machine is joking around, but

Hi Dan,

Yes, its a bunch of us very bright KOs *playing* -- which is

something lots of us weren't allowed to do as kids.

> I have given it a little thought and it might not be too difficult a

> project. Instead of brain scanning (very expensive), we would use a

> simple polygraph connected to a computer (very cheap). It might just

> do the trick.

Uh huh, good idea. Cheaper is better - and especially knowing

that BPDs autonomic nervous systems don't react like 'normals'

do. See:

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/GalFriday/message/11

And Dan wrote:

> Never suggest a cockamamie idea to an engineer, he gets all wrapped

> up in it. Someone once handed me a card that had printed on it " How

> do you keep an engineer amused for hours " ? I turned it over and it

> had the same thing printed on the back.

Yes, that's a good one. I've known engineers that would do that.

LOL

- Edith

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