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I have been sprouting for over 2 years and I have NEVER spent a couple of

hundred dollars on sprouting seeds. Maybe in a total of two years, but I started

with the one pound of broccoli seeds and one pound of alfalfa from

handypantry.com

Then every 4 months or so I would replenish. Then I figured out it's cheaper to

buy the 5 lb cannister of broccoli and the 2.5 pound package of radish, alfalfa

and fenugreek and that lasts me for a LONG LONG TIME.

Don't go buying non-organic seeds to sprout. You never know what is inside these

things.

Melody

>

> As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should see

> the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial reality

> for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started sprouting

> with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> look!

> In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans. I

> have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even a

> walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more supplements

> than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can expect

> anything fit for human consumption...

> Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

>

>

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Well ok, I'm exaggerating a bit. But not much considering one of my main

goals is to sprout/dehydrate nuts and seeds for healthy live/raw snacks

for my family. We'd likely go through stuff that like pretty quickly,

so it would only make sense to get a LOT at one time.

But I'll have to put that aside for now since I A) Don't have the $$, B)

Don't have the freezer storage space, and c) Don't have a prayer of

finding sproutable nuts locally... at least not almonds and cashews. But

what about pecans & walnuts? I have pecans on hand already and raw

walnuts are available even at my grocery store. Can shelled nuts

" sprout " ? They're almost impossible to remove from the shell with the

kernel intact... halves are usually the best you can do. Will they

become " live " the way almonds do when soaked if they are in pieces?

Anyone happen to do this? Sprout nuts/seeds/grains/legumes and then dry

them into crunchy snack mix? I'd love to know if there are some less

traditional " trail mix " type of ingredients that might work in a mix.

I'm thinking of trying oats and lentils like this already.

Organic, huh? Yeah, something tells me I'm not finding THAT at the local

feed store... dang, I figured I could surely find crop seed like alfalfa

at a feed store. But you never know, I'll probably still look. Is there

a reason I should be more concerned about conventional (non-organic)

seeds for sprouting than I am produce? (I can't afford to buy organic

produce...)

Thanks for the reply, Melody. I've got a lot to learn about all

this!~

> >

> > As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> > dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should

see

> > the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial

reality

> > for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started

sprouting

> > with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> > look!

> > In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> > only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans.

I

> > have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even

a

> > walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more

supplements

> > than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> > Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can

expect

> > anything fit for human consumption...

> > Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

> >

> >

> >

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What I have learned from reading the various posts on this forum is that when

you sprout, one should ONLY SPROUT ORGANIC. And you only want to sprout NON GMO

which means it's Not Genetically Modified. It hasn't been modified, it's the

original seed.

Most of the soy produced now is GMO, so you have to look on the package.

And you want to buy alfalfa at a feed store. No, don't do it. It was not raised

organically for sprouting.

Regular stuff you buy at a regular store has been sprayed with pesticides or

chemicals to give them a certain look.

Look at the bean sprouts that you see in big batches in the asian stores. See

how white they are. They have been chemically grown so they look that way. We

don't want that stuff in our bodies.

We want to eat WHOLE foods, not chemically affected, non gmo and ORGANIC as much

as possible.

So go online and start with one pound of ANYTHING organic. Don't start buying

non-organic seeds because they are NOT good for one's body.

I found out that because I wanted to sprout the fenugreek that I bought in

little packages in the Arabic Store. They are called Methi Seeds and a nice size

package cost about $2.00.

Since I sprout Fenugreek, I thought, well, Fenugreek that I get from

handypantry, is the same as the Fenugreek (they are called Methi Seeds) that I

will find in the local Arab Store.

I came to this forum, asked the question and I was told by EW, that " do not

sprout that seed, it is not grown for sprouting "

So in my honest opinion (and maybe others will chime in). DON'T SPROUT NON

-ORGANIC ANYTHING. Maybe I'm wrong about the Lentils by Goya, but just make

sure.

Someone else will chime in and do a better job than I did in explaining all this

to you.

Take care

Melody

Because

> > >

> > > As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> > > dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should

> see

> > > the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial

> reality

> > > for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started

> sprouting

> > > with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> > > look!

> > > In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> > > only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans.

> I

> > > have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even

> a

> > > walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more

> supplements

> > > than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> > > Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can

> expect

> > > anything fit for human consumption...

> > > Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did try to sprout

something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor germination. So you end

up not saving any money in the end.

My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good, organic food as

opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

:)

as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with Melody-better tostay away

from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat organic, human grade

food-same alfalfa we eat.

I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises, just buy a

pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every month sprout house has

some kind of sale that typically involves a discount or a free pound of seed,

:) marion

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

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> :

>

> What I have learned from reading the various posts on this forum is that when

you sprout, one should ONLY SPROUT ORGANIC. And you only want to sprout NON GMO

which means it's Not Genetically Modified. It hasn't been modified, it's the

original seed.

>

> Most of the soy produced now is GMO, so you have to look on the package.

>

> And you want to buy alfalfa at a feed store. No, don't do it. It was not

raised organically for sprouting.

>

> Regular stuff you buy at a regular store has been sprayed with pesticides or

chemicals to give them a certain look.

>

> Look at the bean sprouts that you see in big batches in the asian stores. See

how white they are. They have been chemically grown so they look that way. We

don't want that stuff in our bodies.

>

> We want to eat WHOLE foods, not chemically affected, non gmo and ORGANIC as

much as possible.

>

> So go online and start with one pound of ANYTHING organic. Don't start buying

non-organic seeds because they are NOT good for one's body.

>

> I found out that because I wanted to sprout the fenugreek that I bought in

little packages in the Arabic Store. They are called Methi Seeds and a nice size

package cost about $2.00.

>

> Since I sprout Fenugreek, I thought, well, Fenugreek that I get from

handypantry, is the same as the Fenugreek (they are called Methi Seeds) that I

will find in the local Arab Store.

>

> I came to this forum, asked the question and I was told by EW, that " do not

sprout that seed, it is not grown for sprouting "

>

> So in my honest opinion (and maybe others will chime in). DON'T SPROUT NON

-ORGANIC ANYTHING. Maybe I'm wrong about the Lentils by Goya, but just make

sure.

>

> Someone else will chime in and do a better job than I did in explaining all

this to you.

>

> Take care

>

> Melody

>

> Because

>

> > > >

> > > > As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> > > > dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should

> > see

> > > > the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial

> > reality

> > > > for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started

> > sprouting

> > > > with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> > > > look!

> > > > In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> > > > only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans.

> > I

> > > > have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even

> > a

> > > > walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more

> > supplements

> > > > than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> > > > Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can

> > expect

> > > > anything fit for human consumption...

> > > > Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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I agree with what both Melody and n are saying.

First of all, seeds not specifically for sprouting probably won't because I

think they've been " zapped " with at least some heat or something that basically

" kills " them as a candidate for germination. So at minimum, you will probably

not get very many - if any - to sprout.

Secondly, as Melody says, seeds sold for growing crops - like what you find at

the feed store - have most likely been treated with something that's not a good

idea to be eating on a sprout from it. If you've ever seen seed corn, lots of

it is " pink " because it's been treated with something. Growing up as a kid on

the farm, I always used to think it was funny that my dad planted pink corn.

;-)

Raising treated seeds into grain crops is quite different than sprouting and

eating that seed just like it is. The result of the grain that the treated seed

produces is far removed from the treatment ON the seed. And even if seeds are

not visibly different ( " pink " ) that doesn't mean that they haven't been treated

with something. Think about it this way, you wouldn't sprinkle a pest poison

on your food like salt, right? Well, that's sort of what they've done with

seeds from the grain store - treated that seed (how nice of them!) for the

farmers to guard against pest and fungus issues when they are planted out in the

field for grain crops.

Then there is always the GMO concern. As Melody pointed out, it's a fact that

90% of the soybeans raised in this country are now GMO so your chances of

getting " clean " seed from a seed store are very, VERY low.

You'd be surprised how much a few organic sprouting seeds can produce. Take

sunflower seeds for shoots for example. I had NO idea when I sprouted and then

planted 1 1/2 cups of sunnies HOW much I was going to get! I had a huge bag of

shoots that it took me a week to use up (I know, if I'd have juiced them, they

would have all been gone in one fell swoop... ;-)

I know it's rough to see the prices. I still have a hard time paying the higher

prices for organic produce. Although I've found that when I go to a Farmer's

Market and MEET the person who grew the actual items, it's WAY easier to hand

the money over to them.

Ease into it slowly until it's a life-style change and you can't imagine living

and eating any other way. It's amazing how we can find the time and money for

things we once thought " too expensive " .

Good luck! It's a fantastic thing to watch food grow in your own house. And

if you have kids to help with it, it's the BEST - actually, it's PRICELESS.

Peace,

(proud new owner of a brand new Vitamix - something I would have told you a

couple of months ago I would NEVER have spent the money on!)

>

> I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did try to

sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor germination. So

you end up not saving any money in the end.

> My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good, organic food

as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> :)

>

> as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with Melody-better tostay

away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat organic, human grade

food-same alfalfa we eat.

> I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises, just buy a

pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every month sprout house has

some kind of sale that typically involves a discount or a free pound of seed,

> :) marion

>

>

> Dr. Rollings

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Hi ,

 

I've been sprouting Wild Amazonian Rainforest Jungle Peanuts and LOVING them!! I

just bought 4# from Sunfood.com for $39.95. They are easily sprouted in about a

day and a half. I soak them overnight or about 8-12 hours, then sprout for one+

days, until I see little sprouts emerging (ever so slightly). I harvest

(refrigerate) before the tails reach longer than 1/8 " . They are so delicious!!

These peanuts are the only peanut that does not contain the aflatoxin that is

present in all others and is likely responsible for many of the " peanut

allergies " some people experience.

 

You can get an 8 oz bag for $7.95 to try, but trust me - they'll be gone in a

flash!

 

Google " jungle peanuts " and you're sure to find many places where they can be

purchased.

 

BTW, they are 100% raw and organic!

 

HTH,

Peggy

 

ps...I love nuts of all kinds, except I really don't care for peanuts - except

these!!

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So it's not even a good idea to try and sprout something like Bob's Red

Mill or NOW whole grains? This is turning out more difficult than I was

expecting! >_<

What about raw pumpkin and sunflower seeds? I'm talking about turning

them into " soaks " , not actually growing full sprouts or greens. Just

" waking " them from their dormant state into live raw food. What about

Chia seed? I've seen that in the natural food stores, surely THAT'S easy

to grow! Otherwise, what was the point of a chia pet? lol!

Ironically, Dr. Rollins, our medicine and doctor visits are free

(medicaid). Not that I'm saying I'd willingly make us sick to save

money! I do the best I can with what I have. I'm not in a position where

I'm having trouble " reconciling " the amount of money I spend on food. I

flat out don't have it! After bills, we have about $500 cash available

to buy everything besides food per month for my family of 4. Our food

budget is decent, thanks to food stamps, but we're also limited to

grocery stores that accept them... and that doesn't include health food

stores or farmer's markets. Not that we have much of a FM around here

anyway...

There's not a whole lot of organic produce at stores here anyway, but

what they do have is sometimes TWICE the price of conventional produce.

That means I can only buy half as much! I still think eating more fruits

and veggies is more important than eating organic. At least that's what

all the research I'm hearing about points to...

I know the tone of this post sounds very negative, please don't think

that means I don't appreciate the input. I do! I'm just a little

disappointed to realize this is not going to be as easy to get started

as I thought it would. :^/

Thanks so much! (Hopefully this post won't squish all the words together

again!)~(totally hearing you about the Vitamix, ! I managed to

convince my mom to combo my x-mas and b-day 2 years ago and get me the

Blendtec... good thing they both fall in Dec!)

> >

> > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did

try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor

germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > :)

> >

> > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with Melody-better

tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every month

sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a discount or

a free pound of seed,

> > :) marion

> >

> >

> > Dr. Rollings

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Hi again, ,

 

After reading this post, I realize that my suggestion of raw, organic Jungle

Peanuts (sprouted) is probably out of the question for you at this time. I

didn't intend to appear insensitive to your situation.

 

I hope things get better for you soon, and when your finances improve, keep in

mind the Jungle Peanuts. They don't, however, increase in bulk from being

soaked, the way sprout seeds do. I love them anyway. I always feel I'm getting

so much for my money when I harvest several cups of sprouts from a couple

tablespoonsful of seed!

 

Good luck in your quest for better nutrition at reasonable cost. A worthy goal,

for sure!

 

Peggy

 

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 12:15 PM

Subject: Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

 

So it's not even a good idea to try and sprout something like Bob's Red

Mill or NOW whole grains? This is turning out more difficult than I was

expecting! >_<

What about raw pumpkin and sunflower seeds? I'm talking about turning

them into " soaks " , not actually growing full sprouts or greens. Just

" waking " them from their dormant state into live raw food. What about

Chia seed? I've seen that in the natural food stores, surely THAT'S easy

to grow! Otherwise, what was the point of a chia pet? lol!

Ironically, Dr. Rollins, our medicine and doctor visits are free

(medicaid). Not that I'm saying I'd willingly make us sick to save

money! I do the best I can with what I have. I'm not in a position where

I'm having trouble " reconciling " the amount of money I spend on food. I

flat out don't have it! After bills, we have about $500 cash available

to buy everything besides food per month for my family of 4. Our food

budget is decent, thanks to food stamps, but we're also limited to

grocery stores that accept them... and that doesn't include health food

stores or farmer's markets. Not that we have much of a FM around here

anyway...

There's not a whole lot of organic produce at stores here anyway, but

what they do have is sometimes TWICE the price of conventional produce.

That means I can only buy half as much! I still think eating more fruits

and veggies is more important than eating organic. At least that's what

all the research I'm hearing about points to...

I know the tone of this post sounds very negative, please don't think

that means I don't appreciate the input. I do! I'm just a little

disappointed to realize this is not going to be as easy to get started

as I thought it would. :^/

Thanks so much! (Hopefully this post won't squish all the words together

again!)~(totally hearing you about the Vitamix, ! I managed to

convince my mom to combo my x-mas and b-day 2 years ago and get me the

Blendtec... good thing they both fall in Dec!)

> >

> > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did

try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor

germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > :)

> >

> > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with Melody-better

tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every month

sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a discount or

a free pound of seed,

> > :) marion

> >

> >

> > Dr. Rollings

>

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Please call me n :) o am very glad to hear you have free health care. I

wish good eating habits were

I understand about the budget-but was wondering if you will be able to grow any

veggies yourself this Summer?

Making the most of what we have is the way to go.

:) n

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

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> So it's not even a good idea to try and sprout something like Bob's Red

> Mill or NOW whole grains? This is turning out more difficult than I was

> expecting! >_<

> What about raw pumpkin and sunflower seeds? I'm talking about turning

> them into " soaks " , not actually growing full sprouts or greens. Just

> " waking " them from their dormant state into live raw food. What about

> Chia seed? I've seen that in the natural food stores, surely THAT'S easy

> to grow! Otherwise, what was the point of a chia pet? lol!

> Ironically, Dr. Rollins, our medicine and doctor visits are free

> (medicaid). Not that I'm saying I'd willingly make us sick to save

> money! I do the best I can with what I have. I'm not in a position where

> I'm having trouble " reconciling " the amount of money I spend on food. I

> flat out don't have it! After bills, we have about $500 cash available

> to buy everything besides food per month for my family of 4. Our food

> budget is decent, thanks to food stamps, but we're also limited to

> grocery stores that accept them... and that doesn't include health food

> stores or farmer's markets. Not that we have much of a FM around here

> anyway...

> There's not a whole lot of organic produce at stores here anyway, but

> what they do have is sometimes TWICE the price of conventional produce.

> That means I can only buy half as much! I still think eating more fruits

> and veggies is more important than eating organic. At least that's what

> all the research I'm hearing about points to...

> I know the tone of this post sounds very negative, please don't think

> that means I don't appreciate the input. I do! I'm just a little

> disappointed to realize this is not going to be as easy to get started

> as I thought it would. :^/

> Thanks so much! (Hopefully this post won't squish all the words together

> again!)~(totally hearing you about the Vitamix, ! I managed to

> convince my mom to combo my x-mas and b-day 2 years ago and get me the

> Blendtec... good thing they both fall in Dec!)

>

> > >

> > > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did

> try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor

> germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

> organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > > :)

> > >

> > > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with Melody-better

> tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

> organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

> just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every month

> sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a discount or

> a free pound of seed,

> > > :) marion

> > >

> > >

> > > Dr. Rollings

> >

>

>

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Is there a food pantry near where you live? They will gladly help you out. That

could supplement you for the week.

But do consider going to handypantry.com and buying one pound of alfalfa, one

pound of broccoli. Start with that. Or get these from any organic place online

like Sproutpeople. Shop around. Try Ebay. They sell organic seeds also.

When they arrive, just take a mason jar and put two tablespoons of each of these

into the mason jar. Fill with water, Soak overnight.

Do you have any trays? I use the Sproutgarden round green trays.

Just spread the seeds evenly and rinse 2 times a day for 4 days.

If you have a family of four, it's important NOW to start them on the healthy

road. If they are young, even better. You will be growing your own salad. You

can even make sprout patties out of these. They will feed your whole family.

You have no idea how ECONOMICAL this will turn out to be if you just invest in

one pound each. If you really are committed to starting a healthy lifestyle,

don't buy anything that is grown and harvested unless YOU GROW IT YOURSELF.

There are people out there who spray ROUND UP on everything. That will destroy

all the goodness and nutrition that is in any crop.

It's a horrible pesticide and it's dangerous.

, we need to feed our bodies GOOD QUALITY FOOD.

Whole foods, whole everything. Nothing out of a package, nothing processed.

Look this up. You don't have to go and buy organic apples and fruit and veggies

if you can't afford it. Just start with sprouting and buy lean cuts of

everything else.

You CAN do this.

I live on Social Security. If I can do it ANYONE can do it.

Melody

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I would check the packaging on things like Bob's to see what the ingredients are

(if anything extra has been added). Also, if you see the word " pasteurized " ,

then any chance of sprouting has probably been killed by heat.

I would buy things that you knew you could use even if you can't sprout them.

Try a small bit to see if something germinates and how good the germination rate

seems to be if they do. That way, if they won't germinate, you can still use

what you bought in another way.

I didn't realize that I could sprout the chia seeds that I got from Nutiva until

I tried them. Worked great! I would think that NOW whole grains would be one

of the better choices to try - let us know how it works! Try a little bit to

see. ;-)

We just don't want you or your family getting sick from trying to do the right

thing. There are very few " wrong " ways to sprout, but you need to start with

seed that you know is OK to eat in the seed form. If it's rated to eat as a

seed, then it should be OK to sprout - thing is, it might not be able to grow

because " they " might have killed it.

Whatever you find that will work will be a GREAT addition for your food budget

because it will increase the amount of food you have and be fresh to boot!

Best of both worlds, right?

Take care and I didn't mean to come across as preachy or insensitive to your

financial situation. I know that you are trying to do the very best for your

family that you can - and you are WAY ahead of most people in that respect!

Peace,

> > >

> > > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did

> try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor

> germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

> organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > > :)

> > >

> > > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with Melody-better

> tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

> organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

> just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every month

> sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a discount or

> a free pound of seed,

> > > :) marion

> > >

> > >

> > > Dr. Rollings

> >

>

>

>

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Amazon has some organic sprouting seeds, and some of them qualify for free

shipping with a $25 purchase.

Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

> :

>

> Is there a food pantry near where you live? They will gladly help you out.

> That could supplement you for the week.

>

> But do consider going to handypantry.com and buying one pound of alfalfa,

> one pound of broccoli. Start with that. Or get these from any organic

> place online like Sproutpeople. Shop around. Try Ebay. They sell organic

> seeds also.

>

> When they arrive, just take a mason jar and put two tablespoons of each of

> these into the mason jar. Fill with water, Soak overnight.

>

> Do you have any trays? I use the Sproutgarden round green trays.

>

> Just spread the seeds evenly and rinse 2 times a day for 4 days.

>

> If you have a family of four, it's important NOW to start them on the

> healthy road. If they are young, even better. You will be growing your own

> salad. You can even make sprout patties out of these. They will feed your

> whole family.

>

> You have no idea how ECONOMICAL this will turn out to be if you just

> invest in one pound each. If you really are committed to starting a

> healthy lifestyle, don't buy anything that is grown and harvested unless

> YOU GROW IT YOURSELF.

>

> There are people out there who spray ROUND UP on everything. That will

> destroy all the goodness and nutrition that is in any crop.

>

> It's a horrible pesticide and it's dangerous.

>

> , we need to feed our bodies GOOD QUALITY FOOD.

>

> Whole foods, whole everything. Nothing out of a package, nothing

> processed.

>

> Look this up. You don't have to go and buy organic apples and fruit and

> veggies if you can't afford it. Just start with sprouting and buy lean

> cuts of everything else.

>

> You CAN do this.

>

> I live on Social Security. If I can do it ANYONE can do it.

>

> Melody

>

>

> _

>

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

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,

I second everything you said! Well done.

Definitely do not want to seem insensitive-I just have seen what a waste it can

be to try to sprout things that are either not intended for sprouting or ate not

organic.

:) peace to you,

n

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPad

> I would check the packaging on things like Bob's to see what the ingredients

are (if anything extra has been added). Also, if you see the word " pasteurized " ,

then any chance of sprouting has probably been killed by heat.

>

> I would buy things that you knew you could use even if you can't sprout them.

Try a small bit to see if something germinates and how good the germination rate

seems to be if they do. That way, if they won't germinate, you can still use

what you bought in another way.

>

> I didn't realize that I could sprout the chia seeds that I got from Nutiva

until I tried them. Worked great! I would think that NOW whole grains would be

one of the better choices to try - let us know how it works! Try a little bit to

see. ;-)

>

> We just don't want you or your family getting sick from trying to do the right

thing. There are very few " wrong " ways to sprout, but you need to start with

seed that you know is OK to eat in the seed form. If it's rated to eat as a

seed, then it should be OK to sprout - thing is, it might not be able to grow

because " they " might have killed it.

>

> Whatever you find that will work will be a GREAT addition for your food budget

because it will increase the amount of food you have and be fresh to boot! Best

of both worlds, right?

>

> Take care and I didn't mean to come across as preachy or insensitive to your

financial situation. I know that you are trying to do the very best for your

family that you can - and you are WAY ahead of most people in that respect!

>

> Peace,

>

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did

> > try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor

> > germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > > > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

> > organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > > > :)

> > > >

> > > > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with Melody-better

> > tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

> > organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > > > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

> > just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every month

> > sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a discount or

> > a free pound of seed,

> > > > :) marion

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Rollings

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I wish I knew. I am in the same boat.

Ann

> As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should see

> the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial reality

> for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started sprouting

> with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> look!

> In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans. I

> have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even a

> walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more supplements

> than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can expect

> anything fit for human consumption...

> Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

>

>

>

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I just ordered a 25 lb bag of sunflower seeds from my local health food store. 

They don't stock the sunflower seeds in the bulk bins so I had to take the 25 lb

bag.  My main reason for ordering was cost and shipping cost and my question is

    Will I be able to sprout these?

They are described as " Organic Raw With Shell "     

I have not sprouted sunflower seeds before so am hoping these will sprout. 

How does one know whether seeds are sproutable?  Many Thanks   Kate 

________________________________

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 11:53:52 PM

Subject: Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

 

I wish I knew. I am in the same boat.

Ann

> As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should see

> the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial reality

> for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started sprouting

> with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> look!

> In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans. I

> have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even a

> walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more supplements

> than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can expect

> anything fit for human consumption...

> Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

>

>

>

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Kate

Are they black or striped sunflower seeds?

The sprout supply companies sell black for sprouting and growing

I ear the striped ones raw or roasted for snacks,

On a side note, we got these huge Israeli striped sunflower seeds (from

nutsonline), that are amazing. But I stick to black for sprouting

Maybe EW or someone can speak to why black are favored for sprouting.

n

In finally sunny NJ

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPhone

> I just ordered a 25 lb bag of sunflower seeds from my local health food store.

> They don't stock the sunflower seeds in the bulk bins so I had to take the 25

lb

> bag. My main reason for ordering was cost and shipping cost and my question

is

>

> Will I be able to sprout these?

> They are described as " Organic Raw With Shell "

> I have not sprouted sunflower seeds before so am hoping these will sprout.

> How does one know whether seeds are sproutable? Many Thanks Kate

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 11:53:52 PM

> Subject: Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

>

>

> I wish I knew. I am in the same boat.

> Ann

>

> > As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> > dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should see

> > the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial reality

> > for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started sprouting

> > with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> > look!

> > In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> > only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans. I

> > have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even a

> > walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more supplements

> > than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> > Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can expect

> > anything fit for human consumption...

> > Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

> >

> >

> >

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Kate,

The striped sunflowers grow well for me in trays with about an inch of organic

potting soil. I soak them overnight in a large bowl with a plate holding the

seeds under water, then sprinkle them on the surface and place an empty tray

upside down atop it checking occasionally and misting as needed. After three

days, the lid is removed and we watch those babies grow another 5 days or so

before grazing.

Sproutingly,

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To: sproutpeople

Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 7:05:42 AM

Subject: Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

 

I just ordered a 25 lb bag of sunflower seeds from my local health food store. 

They don't stock the sunflower seeds in the bulk bins so I had to take the 25 lb

bag.  My main reason for ordering was cost and shipping cost and my question is

    Will I be able to sprout these?

They are described as " Organic Raw With Shell "     

I have not sprouted sunflower seeds before so am hoping these will sprout. 

How does one know whether seeds are sproutable?  Many Thanks   Kate 

________________________________

To: sproutpeople

Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 11:53:52 PM

Subject: Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

 

I wish I knew. I am in the same boat.

Ann

> As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should see

> the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial reality

> for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started sprouting

> with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> look!

> In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans. I

> have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even a

> walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more supplements

> than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can expect

> anything fit for human consumption...

> Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

>

>

>

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Kate, the seeds called 'Black oil' are the best to sprout. The striped ones will

sprout, but seem to be more difficult and in my opnion not as tasty. Twenty five

pounds is a lot of seeds. Make sure to store them in air tight containers. Lots

of insects would like to get at your seeds.

ew

Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

I just ordered a 25 lb bag of sunflower seeds from my local health food store.

They don't stock the sunflower seeds in the bulk bins so I had to take the 25

lb

bag. My main reason for ordering was cost and shipping cost and my question is

Will I be able to sprout these?

They are described as " Organic Raw With Shell "

I have not sprouted sunflower seeds before so am hoping these will sprout.

How does one know whether seeds are sproutable? Many Thanks Kate

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Peggy,No worries! You were just trying to answer my question about other

things to put in a sprouted trail mix and I appreciate the input. Though

it's true I probably won't try anything quite so expensive just yet, but

I have filed the info away anyhow. I'm not a big peanut fan, but you

sure made them sound good!

Still would love some input on this topic of inexpensive options for

sprouting and dehydrating into crunchy snack mix. =D~

> > >

> > > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I did

> try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well. Poor

> germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

> organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > > :)

> > >

> > > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with

Melody-better

> tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

> organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

> just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every

month

> sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a discount

or

> a free pound of seed,

> > > :) marion

> > >

> > >

> > > Dr. Rollings

> >

>

>

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Alrighty, n. ^_^

Um... growing vegetables is not something I have ever attempted. The sun

and I have a love/hate relationship. (I hate to be out in it for long

and it loves to burn my very fair skin! lol) And then there's the awful

drought we're going through this year. I think I'd better stick to

trying sprouting and maybe wheat grass. Baby steps, yanno. ~

> > > >

> > > > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I

did

> > try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well.

Poor

> > germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > > > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

> > organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > > > :)

> > > >

> > > > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with

Melody-better

> > tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

> > organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > > > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

> > just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every

month

> > sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a

discount or

> > a free pound of seed,

> > > > :) marion

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Rollings

> > >

> >

> >

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Melody,

I didn't mean to make my situation seem dire! Thanks to food stamps, we

are well fed. I just wish we had more selection around here. Your video

made me want to try the tempeh! Too bad I've never seen it anywhere...

But I did have a bit of an epiphany yesterday... I remembered that Whole

Foods is a national chain and they might accept my food stamps card.

Good news is: they do! Bad news is: the closest one is over 80 miles

away! O_o But we're planning a trip to six flags this summer and that

will take me right near one, so I might be able to stock up on a few

things then! ^_^

I have been making a huge push to improve our diet over the past year

or so. I'm 33 and was diagnosed last year with fatty liver disease (not

to mention the hypertension I've had for 10 years), and that was after

2.5 years of not having a drop of alcohol from having been pregnant for

9mo and breastfeeding for 18. I realized that if I didn't make BIG

changes and bring my weight and fitness under control, I wasn't going to

be here to watch these kids grow up much longer!

There was a time not too long ago that everything we ate came from a

package, and if it was homemade, it was fried or swimming in butter and

cheese. Most went straight from freezer to micro or oven. Now the kids

and I are having our green smoothies daily and eating half a plateful of

steamed veggies with dinner. Next I'm targeting our snack foods! (Oh,

and I've lost 40 lbs so far since Jan! ^_^)

I don't think we'll ever eliminate all processed food... my DH is not

as motivated to change his diet, (he won't quit smoking either...

*shakes head*) though he has been supportive of my choices. He insists

on his soda, ice cream, frosted flakes, etc. I just have to make sure I

keep the kids consumption of such things to the bare minimum.

I certainly do hope sprouting works well for us, I can see how it can

become more economical over the long run. Start-up cost is a little

rough though! I'll keep looking and hopefully be able to order some

clover/alfafa mix soon. My problem is... I want it all! Garbanzo's for

hummus, Lentils for soup and maybe snacking, Oats & Buckwheat for

breakfast spouts, Kat grass, etc! Just goofing and browsing the

sproutpeople site, I quickly racked up $70+ worth of stuff... and I

thought I was being conservative! LOL!

Thanks so much for all your input and support!~ (There, I double

spaced all the line breaks, maybe this will work better...)

>

> :

>

> Is there a food pantry near where you live? They will gladly help you

out. That could supplement you for the week.

>

> But do consider going to handypantry.com and buying one pound of

alfalfa, one pound of broccoli. Start with that. Or get these from any

organic place online like Sproutpeople. Shop around. Try Ebay. They sell

organic seeds also.

>

> When they arrive, just take a mason jar and put two tablespoons of

each of these into the mason jar. Fill with water, Soak overnight.

>

> Do you have any trays? I use the Sproutgarden round green trays.

>

> Just spread the seeds evenly and rinse 2 times a day for 4 days.

>

> If you have a family of four, it's important NOW to start them on the

healthy road. If they are young, even better. You will be growing your

own salad. You can even make sprout patties out of these. They will

feed your whole family.

>

> You have no idea how ECONOMICAL this will turn out to be if you just

invest in one pound each. If you really are committed to starting a

healthy lifestyle, don't buy anything that is grown and harvested unless

YOU GROW IT YOURSELF.

>

> There are people out there who spray ROUND UP on everything. That will

destroy all the goodness and nutrition that is in any crop.

>

> It's a horrible pesticide and it's dangerous.

>

> , we need to feed our bodies GOOD QUALITY FOOD.

>

> Whole foods, whole everything. Nothing out of a package, nothing

processed.

>

> Look this up. You don't have to go and buy organic apples and fruit

and veggies if you can't afford it. Just start with sprouting and buy

lean cuts of everything else.

>

> You CAN do this.

>

> I live on Social Security. If I can do it ANYONE can do it.

>

> Melody

>

>

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n;

    Thank you so much for the question re sunflower black or striped.  Am

trying

to research from provider to my local health food store.

EW;

    Good point about storage of large quantities of sprouting seed and one

which

I had not considered,  Is it necessary/better to freeze the excess amount of

seed?  Tnank you much.

Kate

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Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 8:15:54 AM

Subject: Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

 

Kate

Are they black or striped sunflower seeds?

The sprout supply companies sell black for sprouting and growing

I ear the striped ones raw or roasted for snacks,

On a side note, we got these huge Israeli striped sunflower seeds (from

nutsonline), that are amazing. But I stick to black for sprouting

Maybe EW or someone can speak to why black are favored for sprouting.

n

In finally sunny NJ

Dr. Rollings

NJ Licensed Psychologist #4686

www.DrnRollings.com

Sent from my iPhone

> I just ordered a 25 lb bag of sunflower seeds from my local health food store.

> They don't stock the sunflower seeds in the bulk bins so I had to take the 25

>lb

>

> bag. My main reason for ordering was cost and shipping cost and my question is

>

> Will I be able to sprout these?

> They are described as " Organic Raw With Shell "

> I have not sprouted sunflower seeds before so am hoping these will sprout.

> How does one know whether seeds are sproutable? Many Thanks Kate

>

> ________________________________

>

> To: sproutpeople

> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 11:53:52 PM

> Subject: Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

>

>

> I wish I knew. I am in the same boat.

> Ann

>

> > As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> > dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should see

> > the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial reality

> > for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started sprouting

> > with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> > look!

> > In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> > only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans. I

> > have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even a

> > walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more supplements

> > than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> > Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can expect

> > anything fit for human consumption...

> > Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

> >

> >

> >

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That's an excellent idea! I actually have some NOW quinoa, sunflower,

and pumpkin seeds right now. I guess I should give them a try! Can you

sprout hulled sunflower and pumkin seed? I read that hulling or shelling

somethings makes them unsproutable... (<- I think I'm inventing words

now!)

I really do appreciate the time you have all taken to respond to me.

And please don't any of you worry about being " insensitive " ... I don't

offend easily! I know countless people who say the exact same thing I

did, " I want to eat healthier, but I can't afford it! " and then they get

in their car and spend $6 in the Starbucks drive through on their way to

buy designer jeans for their kids and their umpteenth matching purse and

shoes... I just wanted to clarify that was not me! lol!

Thanks again!

~

> > > >

> > > > I think you did fine Melody. I would only add that when ever I

did

> > try to sprout something that was not organic, it didn't go well.

Poor

> > germination. So you end up not saving any money in the end.

> > > > My sister once said that she prefers to put the money into good,

> > organic food as opposed to medicine and doctor visits.

> > > > :)

> > > >

> > > > as for alfalfa from the bulk feed store, I agree with

Melody-better

> > tostay away from that. I live with a flock of birds and they eat

> > organic, human grade food-same alfalfa we eat.

> > > > I understand about budget considerations- but as Melody advises,

> > just buy a pound of anything you like organic-it will last. Every

month

> > sprout house has some kind of sale that typically involves a

discount or

> > a free pound of seed,

> > > > :) marion

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dr. Rollings

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Oooh! Thanks for that! I never thought of Amazon... how silly of me! If

i could cut out that shipping cost, it would make a big difference. I

already have more stuff in mind I need to order from them anyway...

~

>

> Amazon has some organic sprouting seeds, and some of them qualify for

free

> shipping with a $25 purchase.

>

>

>

> Re: Finding sproutable seeds locally?

>

>

> > :

> >

> > Is there a food pantry near where you live? They will gladly help

you out.

> > That could supplement you for the week.

> >

> > But do consider going to handypantry.com and buying one pound of

alfalfa,

> > one pound of broccoli. Start with that. Or get these from any

organic

> > place online like Sproutpeople. Shop around. Try Ebay. They sell

organic

> > seeds also.

> >

> > When they arrive, just take a mason jar and put two tablespoons of

each of

> > these into the mason jar. Fill with water, Soak overnight.

> >

> > Do you have any trays? I use the Sproutgarden round green trays.

> >

> > Just spread the seeds evenly and rinse 2 times a day for 4 days.

> >

> > If you have a family of four, it's important NOW to start them on

the

> > healthy road. If they are young, even better. You will be growing

your own

> > salad. You can even make sprout patties out of these. They will

feed your

> > whole family.

> >

> > You have no idea how ECONOMICAL this will turn out to be if you just

> > invest in one pound each. If you really are committed to starting a

> > healthy lifestyle, don't buy anything that is grown and harvested

unless

> > YOU GROW IT YOURSELF.

> >

> > There are people out there who spray ROUND UP on everything. That

will

> > destroy all the goodness and nutrition that is in any crop.

> >

> > It's a horrible pesticide and it's dangerous.

> >

> > , we need to feed our bodies GOOD QUALITY FOOD.

> >

> > Whole foods, whole everything. Nothing out of a package, nothing

> > processed.

> >

> > Look this up. You don't have to go and buy organic apples and fruit

and

> > veggies if you can't afford it. Just start with sprouting and buy

lean

> > cuts of everything else.

> >

> > You CAN do this.

> >

> > I live on Social Security. If I can do it ANYONE can do it.

> >

> > Melody

> >

> >

> > _

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------

> >

> >

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Hi ,

I very much understand how limited funds can be. It was so hard for us raising

our family of four children, with my husband's chronic illness that forced us to

live on only a few hundred dollars a month and food stamps. Organically grown

was really difficult, and still is! Here are a few suggestions...

Get lentils in the beans section in Walmart. They grow beautifully. They now

have garbanzo beans. I haven't tried to sprout them, but they look fresh. Their

black beans sprouted better than anywhere else I have gotten them from.

Don't go to a farm supply store. Search for " seed growers " or " seed

suppliers " ...the people who supply the seed directly for farmers to grow. They

do treat their seed with chemicals, BUT the company that I have dealt with here

will set aside seed for me before going to the treatment area. They were very

nice. The reason they treat the seed is that it doesn't get diseased in the soil

while sprouting. Of course, we don't want that in our sprouts! :)

Try to find a buying club, or food co-op in your area. Many of them take food

stamps now. You have United Natural Foods (UNFI) in Lancaster, TX. They are the

wholesale distributor for your area. Call them for a list of buying clubs

(co-ops) who get their stuff. I looked up this info for you. The UNFI number is

. Each buying club has a choice of whether to accept food stamps or

not, so if you have a choice of clubs, then ask each of them if they do. The

whole ordering process is online and really easy. Some buying clubs order from

other places as well as from UNFI, such as produce and fresh baked goods, honey,

etc. And, of course, you can get all sorts of seeds, grains, beans, lentils, to

sprout! The prices are unbelievably good. And, you can share large bags with

other people, so you get the cheaper large bag price.

This is all I could come up with right now. Maybe I'll think of more later. Good

luck, !

Barb

>

> As much as I would love to go online and spend a couple of hundred

> dollars on lovely, superior sprouting seeds and nuts. (You should see

> the my bookmark folder!) I'm afraid that is just not a financial reality

> for me at this time. But I still want to try and get started sprouting

> with what I can get my hands on locally. I'm just not sure where to

> look!

> In my very rural, East Texas area, I'm rather limited... I think the

> only sproutable thing I can find at my local grocery is dried beans. I

> have to drive nearly 30 miles to reach a health food store, (or even a

> walmart, for that matter) and these are small and carry more supplements

> than they do fresh, raw, healthy whole foods. So I'm thinking Feed

> Stores are my best bet for bulk seed, though I'm not sure I can expect

> anything fit for human consumption...

> Am I missing something? Anyone have a better idea?~

>

>

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