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Hi Free, Man I could so relate to that situation!! When I bought my place I had

to get two mortgages. So...dad offered to pay the second smaller mortgage off,

then have the back 10 acres priced out and if needed, pay me the balance,

thereby owning the back 10! Four payments into this, nada tells me that dad

changed his mind....

I ended up paying it off in about 5 years( the second mortgage) Imagine my shock

10 years later to hear my dad comment about owing him all this money for

payments he thought he made! What a pickle to be in!! I finally told him that

nada had stopped making payments after the fourth one.....then imagine HIS

shock! Here he thought all this time that I had reneged on selling him the back

10! Nada had carped on this for years....never telling him the straight of it!

Instead, she put the money in HER pocket.! Good Grief!

warm thoughts,

wendy

Re: Enough! -- on being disinherited

I remember someone wrote in here recently about how nadas offer to

help but then let things fall through..

In my case - it was more often my father that did that. I'm not sure

why. He DID help us - quite a bit in fact - but you could never be

quite sure what you could count on.

I remember when I brought my son home from the hospital (instead of

sending him to a residential school). My father had remarked several

times about how most of our problems were from the people we lived

around. (I lived in campus housing). I don't know WHERE he got this

idea... but he had it. Once some guy beat my son up - and my dad

remarked that it was because of living around " people like that " -

what did I expect. The funny thing - was I later found out the guy

was a adjunct instructor in MY OWN department!!! LOL Egads! That was

a bit " touchy " - to say the least.

Anyway, my father encouraged me to move a few times - and offered

to " help " with expenses. My parents rent out their old house - and so

my father promised to put the $300 a month they got from THAT -

toward rent on a house for me if I moved.

I reached the point I had to move because I had run out of the

allowed time you could live on campus.

At that time my income was VERY limited because I couldn't work much.

I couldn't leave my son alone. I couldn't take him with me. And I

couldn't find anyone willing to watch him for very long. So I took my

father up on his offer.

Well almost......

I found a few houses I liked - but my father didn't like them. For

one thing - I had to be VERY careful about the neighborhoods I chose.

I didn't want to be close to a lot of people at that time. I needed a

place that was safe for my son - yet a place where other people

wouldn't be bothered by his odd behaviors enough that they would make

it hard on us. I told my friend I just wanted to be that " daft woman

on the hill with her weird son. " but my father couldn't undersand

that. He kept saying he appreciated what I was trying to do - but I

couldn't take my son " away " from people... that he needed to be in

the " community. "

After a few looks at rental houses - my father decided it would be

wiser to purchase a house rather than waste money on rent. He kept

sending me to look at houses - but told me that he wasn't sure that

would " fly " up there (i.e. my mother would be ticked if he bought me

a house). So then he started sending me to look at trailers. He

thought one of those would be easier to get my mother's seal of

approval, I guess.

For some reason - none of that ever got past the planning stage. I

finally found a place *I* could afford and rented it. But the guy

took my money, and also rented the house to someone else, AND when I

got the water turned on - they had to shut it off immdediately

because the water pipes in the basement were horrid!

So my son and I survived with a combination of staying with friends,

cheap motels, and sleeping in the car. Meanwhile - my father told me

I should get an attorney to get my money back from the landlord. Yes.

Good business advise - but it took ALL I had to SURVIVE. Paying an

attorney to get money back someday didn't work into my budget.

I finally found a ONE ROOM apartment that I could afford with the

remaining money and so we moved there...and my son slept on the couch

and I slept on a cot in the entrance.

And my father did give me the $300 one month.

Something odd though - was one month he gave me $100 and told me to

add that to the money my mother gave me. She had NOT given me any

money. So apparently he THOUGHT she was giving me money. So maybe he

didn't know he wasn't helping, because he thought he was.

I don't know. I also don't know why I didn't tell him she hadn't

given me any money. It seems like it would have been easy to

say " What money? Mom didn't give me any money. " But I didn't mention

it. I was puzzled...and by the time I figured out what MIGHT have

been going on... it was hard to say anything because that would ahve

been bringing the topic UP - instead of just responding to what he

said.

I guess that would have been against the " rules " to " tell on " my

mother.

I don't know - the whole thing was weird...

Free

My mother every time we had a argument would say that she is not

going to give me money for this or that. THe thing is I am a doctor

earning good money but she would convince me to live beyond my means

and she would help me. I guess that is nice, and the easy way out.

BUt it really is not, and so I have learnt to live within my means

and not let her offer her help so that she will not be able to

withdraw it when she is ready. The weird thing is that she would get

upset when I refuse her help. These people are so fucked up, they

should never have had children.

>

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Hmmmm. I wonder if my dad still thinks he is paying my rent...

Free

> Hi Free, Man I could so relate to that situation!! When I bought my

place I had to get two mortgages. So...dad offered to pay the second

smaller mortgage off, then have the back 10 acres priced out and if

needed, pay me the balance, thereby owning the back 10! Four

payments into this, nada tells me that dad changed his mind....

> I ended up paying it off in about 5 years( the second mortgage)

Imagine my shock 10 years later to hear my dad comment about owing

him all this money for payments he thought he made! What a pickle to

be in!! I finally told him that nada had stopped making payments

after the fourth one.....then imagine HIS shock! Here he thought all

this time that I had reneged on selling him the back 10! Nada had

carped on this for years....never telling him the straight of it!

Instead, she put the money in HER pocket.! Good Grief!

> warm thoughts,

> wendy

>

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free_spirit_etc wrote:

> Hmmmm. I wonder if my dad still thinks he is paying my rent...

>

> Free

>

Uh huh. No wonder you majored in communication! :)

And, no wonder I majored in psych. LOL

- Edith

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It wasn't that freeing for me, unfortunately. Although I realized it

intellectually, I later (much later) learned that I was still trying

to make them happy. I just took a different route, so that I was no

longer consciously aware of what I was doing. I spent years trying to

create a 'happy' family consisting of my parents, my sister, and our

own families. I was so convinced that if I just kept on trying,

someday, somehow, it would all click for nada. She would have a

grand 'aha' moment, sincerely apologize to all of us, and become the

mother I wanted her to be. And we would be the family I thought we

could be.....And we would all live happily ever after! Of course, at

this time I didn't know about BPD. Giving up that dream isn't easy,

but I have some good stuff to put in its place, and I am out looking

for some more good stuff.

Sylvia

> >>>>>>> Once you realize that non matter what you do they will

fault you, it is a very freeing moment. Take care.

> Otwoma

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