Re: drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

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In message <duakfn+jviieGroups> you wrote:

> a friend that swears by it. I made my first batch and tried to drink a

> small amount, just a sip. I then had the worst pain in my gut and had

> severe gas.

You were wise to only sip a little KT. I think with your kidneys not

functioning, Kombucha may be too strong for you, even not advisable,

as it is a strong diuretic. I should discuss this with your doctor to be

on the safe side.

If you are allowed to drink tea and coffee, Kombucha would be possible

in small quantities as well, if not, stay well clear.

Gas is a normal reaction to probiotic drinks ....

lots of gas, and that can cause pain in the bowel.

It is VERY important to drink plenty of good clear water -

I don't know how much your regime of dialysis prescribes, as your

kidneys do not function to regulate the water household.

As Kombucha is a powerful detoxifyer and can cause strong

reactions you need to be really careful there.

Wishing wou all the best

and God's healing,

Margret:-)

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have no idea how kombucha would affect a body without proper kidney

function, but I know that when one starts drinking kombucha, gas can be a

very normal detox symptom. I also know that one needs to drink a lot of

water when drinking kombucha, I would say at least the equivalent amount.

Don't know how that would affect your body either.

I can get info about kombucha and kidney failure if you want.

maria.

On Fri, 03 Mar 2006 23:45:59 -0000 " leafsunbear "

writes:

I have had kidney failure for the past 12 years now. I have been on one

type of dialysis for the most part. Recently I switched to Hemo-

dialysis. It has been very diffucult to adapt to. I got a kombucha from

a friend that swears by it. I made my first batch and tried to drink a

small amount, just a sip. I then had the worst pain in my gut and had

severe gas. I just finished my second batch and I tasted it, just a sip

again. Same problem severe gas and my burps taste like the tea. Why is

this happening? Is this common with other people as well? Any help

would be greatly appreciated. Any websites with this type of info would

also help. I have had no luck with google on this issue.

thanks;

LSB

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Sounds like major detox because your kidneys are not working right. Are you

able to drink enough water? See

www.watercure2.com

A nurse friend told me that she knew of someone who got off dialysis by

drinking nettle tea. Give it a shot. Just remember: nettles are a diuretic,

so you need to drink more water to offset the loss.

Hope that helps,

drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

>

> I have had kidney failure for the past 12 years now. I have been on one

> type of dialysis for the most part. Recently I switched to Hemo-

> dialysis. It has been very diffucult to adapt to. I got a kombucha from

> a friend that swears by it. I made my first batch and tried to drink a

> small amount, just a sip. I then had the worst pain in my gut and had

> severe gas. I just finished my second batch and I tasted it, just a sip

> again. Same problem severe gas and my burps taste like the tea. Why is

> this happening? Is this common with other people as well? Any help

> would be greatly appreciated. Any websites with this type of info would

> also help. I have had no luck with google on this issue.

> thanks;

> LSB

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would concur with Margaret.

Might I suggest you talk to the chinese doctors at TCM Hospital in

shanghai for some medicine to help with your kidneys etc? The cost is

steep($140 for 20 days supply), but you can rest assured that you will

get the best help that 2000 years of traditional chinese medicine can

offer. There may be another chinese herbalist nearby but the cost

will be the same and who knows what experience the local herbalist

has. This is Traditional Chinese Medicine from China.

In regards to using a cleansing substance when your kidney is out of

balance would not be advisable until it is back in order.

www.tcmtreatment.com and fill out the patient form. contact me off

list if you need more help.

After you have balanced out some you would be able to resume drinking

kombucha to your hearts content.

I'm wondering if you would benefit from a kombucha enema?

jaimye

>

> I have had kidney failure for the past 12 years now. I have been on one

> type of dialysis for the most part. Recently I switched to Hemo-

> dialysis. It has been very diffucult to adapt to. I got a kombucha from

> a friend that swears by it. I made my first batch and tried to drink a

> small amount, just a sip. I then had the worst pain in my gut and had

> severe gas. I just finished my second batch and I tasted it, just a sip

> again. Same problem severe gas and my burps taste like the tea. Why is

> this happening? Is this common with other people as well? Any help

> would be greatly appreciated. Any websites with this type of info would

> also help. I have had no luck with google on this issue.

> thanks;

> LSB

>

[Guest guest]

Try diluting it with water, like a cordial, and you should have no

problem. You can then increase the amount of KT gradually.

Cheers

matt

> I have had kidney failure for the past 12 years now. I have been on

> one

> type of dialysis for the most part. Recently I switched to Hemo-

> dialysis. It has been very diffucult to adapt to. I got a kombucha

> from

> a friend that swears by it. I made my first batch and tried to drink a

> small amount, just a sip. I then had the worst pain in my gut and had

> severe gas. I just finished my second batch and I tasted it, just a

> sip

> again. Same problem severe gas and my burps taste like the tea. Why is

> this happening? Is this common with other people as well? Any help

> would be greatly appreciated. Any websites with this type of info

> would

> also help. I have had no luck with google on this issue.

> thanks;

> LSB

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

Peace;

LSB

[Guest guest]

Gas is a sign that you are detoxing; it usually subsides in a week or two.

Often your waste will have an offensive odor for a week or two as well. Just

have a tablespoon of the tea mixed in water with meals, and be sure to drink

lots of water. Is it possible that you are dehydrated? See

www.watercure2.com

The KT may be provoking the Jarisch-Herxheimer Effect, too. KT is an

antibiotic. The JHE is a medically known response to antibiotic. When you

take an antibiotic, the infection dies and puts out toxins as it dies. The

toxins make you temporarily sicker even though it is a healing crisis.

" Herxing " or the Herxheimer Effect is now a slang term in the alternative

medical community for a healing crisis followed by an improvement.

Re: drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

>

> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

> do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

> are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

> country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

> to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

> have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

> common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

> Peace;

> LSB

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

It might be a good idea to do a colon cleanse and get yourself going with

some really good probiotics to improve the balance of favorable bacteria in

your gut. I don't have anywhere near your problems, and I had to do the

above before my liver would tolerate *any* KT. I would be extremely careful

with anything that is a strong system-wide detoxifier. If your kidneys don't

work, all the toxins released into circulation that aren't removed by the

liver (and many must be removed by the kidneys) will just float around until

your next treatment. Also, I would think that one in your situation would do

best consuming an almost perfect diet -- all whole foods with lots of fruits

and vegetables, little to no sugar, no chemicals, especially no

chemical/artificial sweeteners and no trans fats. As far as the gut toxicity

issue is concerned -- if you have an intestinal tract with an excess of

harmful bacteria and yeast (and it sounds as if that might be true for you),

they will be releasing serious toxins that are then absorbed into your

system, causing even more problems.

All the best,

Dana

-----Original Message-----

From: original_kombucha

[mailto:original_kombucha ] On Behalf Of leafsunbear

My kidney's do not work at all. . . .The main thing I would need

to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

Peace;

LSB

[Guest guest]

I thought KT was a Probiotic?

CMR wrote: Gas is a sign that you are detoxing; it

usually subsides in a week or two.

Often your waste will have an offensive odor for a week or two as well. Just

have a tablespoon of the tea mixed in water with meals, and be sure to drink

lots of water. Is it possible that you are dehydrated? See

www.watercure2.com

The KT may be provoking the Jarisch-Herxheimer Effect, too. KT is an

antibiotic. The JHE is a medically known response to antibiotic. When you

take an antibiotic, the infection dies and puts out toxins as it dies. The

toxins make you temporarily sicker even though it is a healing crisis.

" Herxing " or the Herxheimer Effect is now a slang term in the alternative

medical community for a healing crisis followed by an improvement.

Re: drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

>

> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

> do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

> are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

> country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

> to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

> have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

> common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

> Peace;

> LSB

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

That is correct. It is both probiotic and antibiotic. It is also antifungal

and antiviral.

Re: drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

>

>

>>

>> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

>> do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

>> are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

>> country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

>> to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

>> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

>> have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

>> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

>> common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

>> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

>> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

>> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

>> Peace;

>> LSB

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

While Kombucha is very helpful for many people with digestive problems

the fact that it is causing you severe gas indicates a problem I would

not ignore.

You can try cutting back on the amount of Kombucha you are drinking,

some people have to start with 1 tablespoon in plain water.

It also might help if you brew your Kombucha past the sugar sweet

stage. If you have Candida sugar in any form can make it worse.

Seems like you will neeed to experiment to see what works for you.

Take it slowly and chances are things will work out well.

There is however, the problem that Kombucha eliminates toxins through

the kidneys and if your kidneys are not functioning well I would talk

to my doctor about whether or not it is safe for you to drink

Kombucha. Maybe the dialysis takes care of that but I really don't know.

Peace, Love and Harmony,

Bev

>

> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

> do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

> are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

> country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

> to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

> have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

> common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

> Peace;

> LSB

>

[Guest guest]

Oh. So does this mean a person who drinks KT regularly won't get infections?

CMR wrote: That is correct. It is both probiotic and

antibiotic. It is also antifungal

and antiviral.

Re: drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

>

>

>>

>> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

>> do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

>> are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

>> country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

>> to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

>> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

>> have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

>> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

>> common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

>> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

>> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

>> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

>> Peace;

>> LSB

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Yes, until you build up a tolerance to KT. Then it won't work until you take

a rest from it.

Google Gaia Research and KT. The Germans and Russians have done quite a lot

of research demonstrating what I just said is true.

Re: drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

>>

>>

>>>

>>> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

>>> do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

>>> are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

>>> country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

>>> to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

>>> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

>>> have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

>>> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

>>> common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

>>> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

>>> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

>>> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

>>> Peace;

>>> LSB

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

How long are we supposed to take a rest from the KT?

Thanks

J.

CMR wrote:

Yes, until you build up a tolerance to KT. Then it won't work until you take

a rest from it.

Google Gaia Research and KT. The Germans and Russians have done quite a lot

of research demonstrating what I just said is true.

Re: drinking Kombucha causes me severe gas

>>

>>

>>>

>>> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing chinese medicine can

>>> do to change that. It's interesting the number of chinese citzens that

>>> are living in america just for the dialysis treatment. In their home

>>> country they would just be allowed to die. The main thing I would need

>>> to worry about with Kombucha would liver toxicity. I would have to

>>> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that much? I very well could

>>> have a upper GI infection that would require a endoscopy to diagnose.

>>> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha and Severe gas? Is it

>>> common, does it subside, are some people just able to dtink it cause of

>>> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of using it based on what the

>>> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could realy help my bowel

>>> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

>>> Peace;

>>> LSB

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

[Guest guest]

it is also highly acidic and great at changing one's

Ph balance.

--- CMR wrote:

> That is correct. It is both probiotic and

> antibiotic. It is also antifungal

> and antiviral.

>

> Re: drinking Kombucha causes me

> severe gas

> >

> >

> >>

> >> My kidney's do not work at all. There is nothing

> chinese medicine can

> >> do to change that. It's interesting the number of

> chinese citzens that

> >> are living in america just for the dialysis

> treatment. In their home

> >> country they would just be allowed to die. The

> main thing I would need

> >> to worry about with Kombucha would liver

> toxicity. I would have to

> >> limit my consumption to 2oz's a day. If that

> much? I very well could

> >> have a upper GI infection that would require a

> endoscopy to diagnose.

> >> Does anyone know of some good info on Kombucha

> and Severe gas? Is it

> >> common, does it subside, are some people just

> able to dtink it cause of

> >> the gas? that sorta info. I like the idea of

> using it based on what the

> >> FDA says about whats in it. Sounds like it could

> realy help my bowel

> >> system. anywho thanks everyone for your help.

> >> Peace;

> >> LSB

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>