Re: (unknown)

[Guest guest]

I am comfortable with the tone and content of my posts.

However, I do appreciate your intent here and will try to avoid

further interactions of this type.

> hey guys,

> so far this forum has been free of the squabbles you guys are in.

with the

> exception of mr threat of lawsuit guy, there has been no infighting

here. if

> you disagree thats one thing, but the tone between you guys is

weasring a

> little thin. take the nastiness offline please.

> ed

[Guest guest]

I am comfortable with the tone and content of my posts.

However, I do appreciate your intent here and will try to avoid

further interactions of this type.

> hey guys,

> so far this forum has been free of the squabbles you guys are in.

with the

> exception of mr threat of lawsuit guy, there has been no infighting

here. if

> you disagree thats one thing, but the tone between you guys is

weasring a

> little thin. take the nastiness offline please.

> ed

[Guest guest]

I am comfortable with the tone and content of my posts.

However, I do appreciate your intent here and will try to avoid

further interactions of this type.

> hey guys,

> so far this forum has been free of the squabbles you guys are in.

with the

> exception of mr threat of lawsuit guy, there has been no infighting

here. if

> you disagree thats one thing, but the tone between you guys is

weasring a

> little thin. take the nastiness offline please.

> ed

[Guest guest]

You just don't make much sense, no?

Of course someone can gain mass on their upper body without working their

lower body- but those gains would come easier if the larger muscle masses

(hips and thighs) are stimulated. It's well documented that people doing

squat rountines have gained mass throughout their body- perhaps you need to

do some reading, no?

Odd you mention wheelchair athletes....did their gains come from

isometrics???

Again if one wants to mirror success it only makes sense to do what those

who are successful do.

Those wheelchair athletes pump a lot of iron.

Again I ask...please tell us your measurements, tell us your compressions

numbers on the BW. Let us see what you have accomplished.

Making you a moderator on this forum has been a mistake on Tony's part. A

little sense of power can make some people egomaniacs.

Dave

(unknown)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >I just found a site about some sort of Pilates devise,but

> the

> > > guy

> > > > who wrote

> > > > > >it had the following to say:The Bullworker, if you

remember,

> > > was a

> > > > > >monstrous self-contained exercise device with a giant

spring

> > > > inside two

> > > > > >metal pipes. Attached on either side of the tubes were

> steel

> > > > cables

> > > > > >encapsulated in plastic. To exercise your muscles and

legs

> > > with a

> > > > > >Bullworker, you would either compress the spring by

pushing

> in

> > > on

> > > > either

> > > > > >end of the pipe (gauging your strength progress by

watching

> a

> > > > plastic

> > > > > >marker on the pipe that tracked your furthest compression)

> or

> > > > you'd pull

> > > > > >out on the steel cables (which still compressed the

spring)

> > > using

> > > > the

> > > > > >opposing muscles of your arms and legs.

> > > > > >Alas, the Bullworker is no more, but a Magic Circle is

just

> as

> > > > good as a

> > > > > >Bullworker and it is certainly a lighter and a more

talented

> > > > piece of

> > > > > >exercise equipment because it's kinder to use and more

> > compact:

> > > > > >Apparently,he knows nothing about the Bullworker.And,the

> > devise

> > > > he writes

> > > > > >about weighs 2 pounds,according to the article.So,he

claims

> > the

> > > > Bullworker

> > > > > >was a monstrous,heavy devise,and that it no longer exists.

> > > > > >I emailed him and politely pointed out his mistakes.

> > > > > >If you'd like to email him,his address is: boles@g...

> > > > > >You can read the article at: goinside.com/00/4/magic.html

> > > > > >He then goes on to say how he was hurt using that Magic

> > > > Circle.Never heard

> > > > > >of anyone being hurt using Bullworker.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >---------------------------------

> > > > > >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

> > > > > >

> > > > > >__________________________________________________

> > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Dick,

I'm very familiar with Bronze Bow, is a friend of mine. Do a

search on his forum and you'll find a great many posts of mine.

I agree with you that improper weight training can have negative affects on

your body.

But that doesn't mean that moderate weight training is not a good thing.

I'm not sure why some people are so narrow minded that there can be only one

way.

The BW is okay but to get the best results one should really look to include

other forms of training.

If all one wants to do is maintain some tone and strength than the BW is

fine, but still some form of mild cardio exercise should be done.

If one wants to gain some muscle size you can use the BW, but I think a

person would benefit greater if bodyweight exercises, and/or weight training

is also employed.

-Dave Walmsley

(unknown)

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >I just found a site about some sort of Pilates devise,but the

>> guy

>> > who wrote

>> > > >it had the following to say:The Bullworker, if you remember,

>> was a

>> > > >monstrous self-contained exercise device with a giant spring

>> > inside two

>> > > >metal pipes. Attached on either side of the tubes were steel

>> > cables

>> > > >encapsulated in plastic. To exercise your muscles and legs

>> with a

>> > > >Bullworker, you would either compress the spring by pushing in

>> on

>> > either

>> > > >end of the pipe (gauging your strength progress by watching a

>> > plastic

>> > > >marker on the pipe that tracked your furthest compression) or

>> > you'd pull

>> > > >out on the steel cables (which still compressed the spring)

>> using

>> > the

>> > > >opposing muscles of your arms and legs.

>> > > >Alas, the Bullworker is no more, but a Magic Circle is just as

>> > good as a

>> > > >Bullworker and it is certainly a lighter and a more talented

>> > piece of

>> > > >exercise equipment because it's kinder to use and more compact:

>> > > >Apparently,he knows nothing about the Bullworker.And,the devise

>> > he writes

>> > > >about weighs 2 pounds,according to the article.So,he claims the

>> > Bullworker

>> > > >was a monstrous,heavy devise,and that it no longer exists.

>> > > >I emailed him and politely pointed out his mistakes.

>> > > >If you'd like to email him,his address is: boles@g...

>> > > >You can read the article at:

>> > > >goinside.com/00/4/magic.html<http://goinside.com/00/4/magic.html>

>> > > >He then goes on to say how he was hurt using that Magic

>> > Circle.Never heard

>> > > >of anyone being hurt using Bullworker.

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >

>> > > >---------------------------------

>> > > >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

>> > > >

>> > > >__________________________________________________

>> > > >

[Guest guest]

Just had to comment on this. I both weight train and use a

Bullworker at home, and more extensively if I'm away. The workout is

not quick, a round of isotonics of all of the exercises on the

wallchart take about 30 mins and then a further two rounds of 'that

dsays body parts' a little longer. Basically I'll do chest & arms

one day, back the next, then shoulders then legs on another day. I

don't use it because it's quick, (altho' isometrics alone would be),

I use it because it does what it says it will do!

> > ,

> >

> > I don't understand this post.

> > You've copied word for word part of the inside front cover of

the

> > Bullworker 2 training booklet.

> >

> > It's also a bit misleading as it talks about having to lift very

heavy

> > weights for many tiring hours. This really isn't the case.

> > When one reads these words you can easily see how BW is

attempting to

> > " brainwash " and appeal to the lazy sloth who hates exercise.

> > They create the imagine of straining under huge weights for many

hours and

> > getting little result. They then tell you that with only a 7

second

> > exercise you'll be bursting with new muscle.

> >

> > As for the BW also exercising internal organs....doesn't every

exercise

> > method do this?

> > One really needs to be able to see through all the bullshit hype

and

> > selling tactics that those " selling " anything use. This BW

booklet was

> > what the company mailed out to you when you requested info on

the BW.

> >

> > -Dave Walmsley

> > (unknown)

> >

> >

> >

> > Using the Bullworker you can train your body throughout to

produce a

> > superb muscular system. Perhaps the most astonishing thing about

the

> > Bullworker system is that most of the exercises last only seven

seconds

> > and these exercises don't merely strengthen the muscles, they

also

> > strengthen internal organs.

> >

> > Some traditional methods of body building require a considerable

amount of

> > effort, using heavy weights and putting in hours of tiring work.

There is

> > no certainty at all that you will get satisfactory results as

they are

> > basically every time wasting methods of building muscles.

Furthermore your

> > success using these methods depends very greatly upon the amount

of

> > will-power you exert. With the Bullworker the element of chance

is greatly

> > reduced.

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Just had to comment on this. I both weight train and use a

Bullworker at home, and more extensively if I'm away. The workout is

not quick, a round of isotonics of all of the exercises on the

wallchart take about 30 mins and then a further two rounds of 'that

dsays body parts' a little longer. Basically I'll do chest & arms

one day, back the next, then shoulders then legs on another day. I

don't use it because it's quick, (altho' isometrics alone would be),

I use it because it does what it says it will do!

> > ,

> >

> > I don't understand this post.

> > You've copied word for word part of the inside front cover of

the

> > Bullworker 2 training booklet.

> >

> > It's also a bit misleading as it talks about having to lift very

heavy

> > weights for many tiring hours. This really isn't the case.

> > When one reads these words you can easily see how BW is

attempting to

> > " brainwash " and appeal to the lazy sloth who hates exercise.

> > They create the imagine of straining under huge weights for many

hours and

> > getting little result. They then tell you that with only a 7

second

> > exercise you'll be bursting with new muscle.

> >

> > As for the BW also exercising internal organs....doesn't every

exercise

> > method do this?

> > One really needs to be able to see through all the bullshit hype

and

> > selling tactics that those " selling " anything use. This BW

booklet was

> > what the company mailed out to you when you requested info on

the BW.

> >

> > -Dave Walmsley

> > (unknown)

> >

> >

> >

> > Using the Bullworker you can train your body throughout to

produce a

> > superb muscular system. Perhaps the most astonishing thing about

the

> > Bullworker system is that most of the exercises last only seven

seconds

> > and these exercises don't merely strengthen the muscles, they

also

> > strengthen internal organs.

> >

> > Some traditional methods of body building require a considerable

amount of

> > effort, using heavy weights and putting in hours of tiring work.

There is

> > no certainty at all that you will get satisfactory results as

they are

> > basically every time wasting methods of building muscles.

Furthermore your

> > success using these methods depends very greatly upon the amount

of

> > will-power you exert. With the Bullworker the element of chance

is greatly

> > reduced.

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

[Guest guest]

Just a thought, whilst I'm posting. Isos are like the 'cheat reps'

employed by bodybuilders, the ones they 'do to failure'. That's why

they work. They take the same principle and apply it differently.

Hi ,I

> never

> > > got

> > >> > > hurt

> > >> > > > > > >using the Bullworker.There was a devise sold years

> > >> > > ago,advocated

> > >> > > > > by Dave

> > >> > > > > > >Draper.I can't really remember the name,but it was

a

> > >> strait

> > >> > > bar

> > >> > > > > with two

> > >> > > > > > >bicycle handle bar grips with a big spring in the

> > >> middle.The

> > >> > > > idea

> > >> > > > > was to

> > >> > > > > > >bring the 2 handles together to build up your

> chest.It

> > > was

> > >> > the

> > >> > > > > opposite

> > >> > > > > > >princible of the old spring chest expander.One day

> one

> > > of

> > >> > the

> > >> > > > > handles

> > >> > > > > > >slipped from my grip,and it felt like I got hit by

> > >

> > >> > > > > Foreman.The funny

> > >> > > > > > >thing is it must have whacked some others too,as I

> saw

> > > my

> > >> > > > > freind,who owned

> > >> > > > > > >one too,wearing his high school football helmet

with

> a

> > >> full

> > >> > > > > linemans cage

> > >> > > > > > >facemask while working out with this thing.I think

it

> > > was

> > >> > > called

> > >> > > > > the Power

> > >> > > > > > >Flex,but I'm not sure.The next year it came out

with

> > >> safety

> > >> > > > > straps on the 2

> > >> > > > > > >handles,and then thru law suites it faded off into

> > >> > > > > oblivion.....any of you

> > >> > > > > > >Bullworkers remember that thing...Dawk.

> > >> > > > > > > (unknown)

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >I just found a site about some sort of Pilates

> > > devise,but

> > >> > the

> > >> > > > guy

> > >> > > > > who wrote

> > >> > > > > > >it had the following to say:The Bullworker, if you

> > >> remember,

> > >> > > > was a

> > >> > > > > > >monstrous self-contained exercise device with a

giant

> > >> spring

> > >> > > > > inside two

> > >> > > > > > >metal pipes. Attached on either side of the tubes

> were

> > >> > steel

> > >> > > > > cables

> > >> > > > > > >encapsulated in plastic. To exercise your muscles

> and

> > >> legs

> > >> > > > with a

> > >> > > > > > >Bullworker, you would either compress the spring by

> > >> pushing

> > >> > in

> > >> > > > on

> > >> > > > > either

> > >> > > > > > >end of the pipe (gauging your strength progress by

> > >> watching

> > >> > a

> > >> > > > > plastic

> > >> > > > > > >marker on the pipe that tracked your furthest

> > > compression)

> > >> > or

> > >> > > > > you'd pull

> > >> > > > > > >out on the steel cables (which still compressed the

> > >> spring)

> > >> > > > using

> > >> > > > > the

> > >> > > > > > >opposing muscles of your arms and legs.

> > >> > > > > > >Alas, the Bullworker is no more, but a Magic

Circle

> is

> > >> just

> > >> > as

> > >> > > > > good as a

> > >> > > > > > >Bullworker and it is certainly a lighter and a more

> > >> talented

> > >> > > > > piece of

> > >> > > > > > >exercise equipment because it's kinder to use and

> more

> > >> > > compact:

> > >> > > > > > >Apparently,he knows nothing about the

> Bullworker.And,the

> > >> > > devise

> > >> > > > > he writes

> > >> > > > > > >about weighs 2 pounds,according to the

article.So,he

> > >> claims

> > >> > > the

> > >> > > > > Bullworker

> > >> > > > > > >was a monstrous,heavy devise,and that it no longer

> > > exists.

> > >> > > > > > >I emailed him and politely pointed out his

mistakes.

> > >> > > > > > >If you'd like to email him,his address is:

boles@g...

> > >> > > > > > >You can read the article at:

> > > goinside.com/00/4/magic.html

> > >> > > > > > >He then goes on to say how he was hurt using that

> Magic

> > >> > > > > Circle.Never heard

> > >> > > > > > >of anyone being hurt using Bullworker.

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >---------------------------------

> > >> > > > > > >Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page

> > >> > > > > > >

> > >> > > > > > >__________________________________________________

> > >> > > > > > >

[Guest guest]

Hi, Marisa and welcome. I've been able to find lots of helpful suggestions on this site, as I'm sure you will too. Yes, Melatonin is the way we are going to proceed. On Kirkman's web page, I found both the 3 mg, and the slow release. I've heard other mothers having the exact same experience as you have...so thanks to all.

Have a blessed Sunday!

e

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much ...mine tantrums he's 21 months old :0 ) He also has complete and utter meltdowns when he's afraid....He's so precious....whispering is a great idea...Tell us more about Tantrum Phantom...how is the story set up?

e

(unknown)

Darla,

In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps.

Question on tantrums...

Posted by: "Darla" asd.awareness@ gmail.com comom_db

Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT)

Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something,

I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

[Guest guest]

dang thanks for reminding me, whisper is a wonderful thing to do, and i forgot i do that too.. gee it isn't just the kids that forget during summer months ehh?

debra

(unknown)

Darla,

In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps.

Question on tantrums...

Posted by: "Darla" asd.awarenessgmail comom_db

Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT)

Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something, I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

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On the other hand, sometimes when I whisper it makes our son more agitated!!

Subject: Re: (unknown)To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 8:17 AM

dang thanks for reminding me, whisper is a wonderful thing to do, and i forgot i do that too.. gee it isn't just the kids that forget during summer months ehh?

debra

(unknown)

Darla,

In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps.

Question on tantrums...

Posted by: "Darla" asd.awareness@ gmail.com comom_db

Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT)

Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something,

I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

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On the other hand, sometimes when I whisper it makes our son more agitated!!

Subject: Re: (unknown)To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 8:17 AM

dang thanks for reminding me, whisper is a wonderful thing to do, and i forgot i do that too.. gee it isn't just the kids that forget during summer months ehh?

debra

(unknown)

Darla,

In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps.

Question on tantrums...

Posted by: "Darla" asd.awareness@ gmail.com comom_db

Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT)

Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something,

I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

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On the other hand, sometimes when I whisper it makes our son more agitated!!

Subject: Re: (unknown)To: AutismBehaviorProblems Date: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 8:17 AM

dang thanks for reminding me, whisper is a wonderful thing to do, and i forgot i do that too.. gee it isn't just the kids that forget during summer months ehh?

debra

(unknown)

Darla,

In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps.

Question on tantrums...

Posted by: "Darla" asd.awareness@ gmail.com comom_db

Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT)

Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something,

I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

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wow really?

(unknown)

Darla,

In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps.

Question on tantrums...

Posted by: "Darla" asd.awareness@ gmail.com comom_db

Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT)

Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something, I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

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Oh I would love to hear about this too! is 5 and has total complete meltdowns too!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 18:09:45 -0700 (PDT)To: <AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: Re: (unknown) Thank you so much ...mine tantrums he's 21 months old :0 ) He also has complete and utter meltdowns when he's afraid....He's so precious....whispering is a great idea...Tell us more about Tantrum Phantom...how is the story set up? e (unknown)Darla, In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps. Question on tantrums... Posted by: "Darla" asd.awareness@ gmail.com comom_db Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT) Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something, I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

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Yes, one day one thing works and the next day the same thing can agitate him - it's like constantly walking on egg shells. You never know which son will show up on any given day!!

From: Debra Byrne <patrickbyrne2@ comcast.net>Subject: Re: (unknown)To: AutismBehaviorProbl emsyahoogroups (DOT) comDate: Thursday, July 24, 2008, 8:17 AM

dang thanks for reminding me, whisper is a wonderful thing to do, and i forgot i do that too.. gee it isn't just the kids that forget during summer months ehh?

debra

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Darla,

In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps.

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Posted by: "Darla" asd.awareness@ gmail.com comom_db

Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT)

Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something,

I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla

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That is a great idea about the whispering! I will have to tell my hubby that and our girls! And also about the social story song I would love to know more about that!Stacie BAurora ILSent via BlackBerry by AT&TDate: Wed, 23 Jul 2008 17:03:08 -0700 (PDT)To: AutismBehaviorProblems<AutismBehaviorProblems >Subject: (unknown) Darla, In my house, we created a social story song about the "Tantrum Phantom" when my son was younger, which he really enjoyed and seemed to redirect him. One thing that works with a lot of autistic kids (mine included) when they get like this is to whisper. They are already overloaded sensorily, and they will pause to figure out what you are trying to tell them (usually). Just a thought. Hope it helps. Question on tantrums... Posted by: "Darla" asd.awarenessgmail comom_db Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:11 pm (PDT) Hi!New to the group and working through something fairly new with our 8 year old son with Aspergers. He has started to bite and/or hit himself in the head when he is frustrated (can't do something/find something... ) or when reminded to do/not do something. These self-injurious behaviors are increasing in frequency (a few times a day) and sometimes his anger/frustration is directed at other members of our family. I should add, that while he is hitting himsel there is lots of negative self-talk like, "Stupid, stupid brain....why can't my brain work right, etc.,."I have been reading that remaining calm in the face of these outbursts or even ignoring them is the best response. Sometimes that helps to diffuse him, sometimes it does not. I do talk with him later about the situation, focussing on the resolution and not the problem (like when he loses something, I'll say something like, "I'm so glad we found your airplane...we always find what we lose!")In any case, I am concerned at the increase in frequency and worried these reactions to stress/frustration/ anger will become habitual. Just wondering what others do in this type of situation. Thank you!!!!Darla